Zerovoltz Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 The Jets are in disarray. At the conclusion of the season, they need to clean house again. I know you guys are tired of starting over every 2-3 years but that’s where you are The team needs people at the top that know how to fix this. By fix I mean 1. Finding a QB and 2. Building a roster and depth. 3. Competent coaching. Go hire Payton and let Payton pick the GM. Same setup as KC. Payton knows QB talent, he knows football. He put together teams that were consistently competitive and always built with good depths through good drafts. in addition, having a coach who is also the de facto O coordinator ensures continuity with the QB and offense whereas having a D minded coach that ends up with good offense, having the o coordinator poached. Paton can fix your mess. Write the check or the Cowboys will. 2 19 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Joe W. Namath Posted August 23, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 23, 2022 Good grief..................... 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WowOhWow Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Not sure I believe in this idea even though I"m not sold on HC/DC. Don't want to lose JD. I believe he's the real deal (some misses notwithstanding). 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorP Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Hasn't this already been a thread.... 42 other times FFS... 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nycdan Posted August 23, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, PorP said: Hasn't this already been a thread.... 42 other times FFS... I would merge it if I could find it. I might make a unified 'random whine thread' and merge all of these together. Thoughts? 6 2 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slats Posted August 23, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 23, 2022 7 minutes ago, Zerovoltz said: Go hire Payton and let Payton pick the GM. Let’s see what the season brings, shall we? If Saleh and/or Zach don’t look the part, I’m not throwing the baby out with the bath water. I’d be happy to bring in Payton if he’s willing to work with JD. I really don’t give a **** about the guy’s first draft during the pandemic, I like the team building I’ve seen the last couple years. 13 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Jets fan Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 9 minutes ago, Zerovoltz said: The Jets are in disarray. At the conclusion of the season, they need to clean house again. I know you guys are tired of starting over every 2-3 years but that’s where you are The team needs people at the top that know how to fix this. By fix I mean 1. Finding a QB and 2. Building a roster and depth. 3. Competent coaching. Go hire Payton and let Payton pick the GM. Same setup as KC. Payton knows QB talent, he knows football. He put together teams that were consistently competitive and always built with good depths through good drafts. in addition, having a coach who is also the de facto O coordinator ensures continuity with the QB and offense whereas having a D minded coach that ends up with good offense, having the o coordinator poached. Paton can fix your mess. Write the check or the Cowboys will. ??????????? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PorP Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 1 minute ago, nycdan said: I would merge it if I could find it. I might make a unified 'random whine thread' and merge all of these together. Thoughts? I'm all for it. There was another Payton thread or 2 before tc when he mentioned returning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 13 minutes ago, Zerovoltz said: The Jets are in disarray. At the conclusion of the season, they need to clean house again. I know you guys are tired of starting over every 2-3 years but that’s where you are The team needs people at the top that know how to fix this. By fix I mean 1. Finding a QB and 2. Building a roster and depth. 3. Competent coaching. Go hire Payton and let Payton pick the GM. Same setup as KC. Payton knows QB talent, he knows football. He put together teams that were consistently competitive and always built with good depths through good drafts. in addition, having a coach who is also the de facto O coordinator ensures continuity with the QB and offense whereas having a D minded coach that ends up with good offense, having the o coordinator poached. Paton can fix your mess. Write the check or the Cowboys will. Maybe save this for say, February 2023, when it might be worth pondering. Nothing is changing now. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post freestater Posted August 23, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, nycdan said: I would merge it if I could find it. I might make a unified 'random whine thread' and merge all of these together. Thoughts? Merge it with @Raideraholic threads. That'll teach 'em. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Way too early for this stuff but I don't mind playing on Hypothetical Island. Saleh and his staff have a lot to prove this season and will it be enough to ignore an upgrade at HC if Payton (hypothetically) wanted to come here? I really liked what Joe Douglas has done with this roster. But if we're going after Sean Payton then it'll really be up to him what he wants to do for a GM or if he would want to be GM + HC. Long story short for the sake of playing pretend, Saleh would have to have a dramatic monster season to pass on hiring Payton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Just now, Warfish said: Maybe save this for say, February 2023, when it might be worth pondering. Nothing is changing now. They should obviously wait for the Wednesday before the opener. That would be ideal. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post greenwichjetfan Posted August 23, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 23, 2022 On one hand, I absolutely love what LaFluer is doing. I've loved it since his first day on the job - even through the first 6 games last year when everyone wanted to blame him instead of Zach for the offensive woes. That being said, if I'm Woody, and Zach proves he's not the guy this year, I'm doing everything I can to get Sean Payton in here on one condition: he needs to work with JD. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 16 minutes ago, Zerovoltz said: The Jets are in disarray. At the conclusion of the season, they need to clean house again. I know you guys are tired of starting over every 2-3 years but that’s where you are The team needs people at the top that know how to fix this. By fix I mean 1. Finding a QB and 2. Building a roster and depth. 3. Competent coaching. Go hire Payton and let Payton pick the GM. Same setup as KC. Payton knows QB talent, he knows football. He put together teams that were consistently competitive and always built with good depths through good drafts. in addition, having a coach who is also the de facto O coordinator ensures continuity with the QB and offense whereas having a D minded coach that ends up with good offense, having the o coordinator poached. Paton can fix your mess. Write the check or the Cowboys will. If Sean Payton will coach here then I agree he should be hired. I'm not looking to dump JD but I'd fire Saleh without even thinking about it. And that's the case even if we win 10 games this year. A good HC makes all the difference. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, greenwichjetfan said: On one hand, I absolutely love what LaFluer is doing. I've loved it since his first day on the job - even through the first 6 games last year when everyone wanted to blame him instead of Zach for the offensive woes. That being said, if I'm Woody, and Zach proves he's not the guy this year, I'm doing everything I can to get Sean Payton in here on one condition: he needs to work with JD. I'm a LaFleur fan too. Saleh and Ullbrich haven't shown anything so far though. And even if they did, it's highly unlikely either will be Sean Payton's caliber. I agree that we need to keep JD (at least that's my current thinking). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 It’ll be a cold day in hell before the Johnson’s dish out $10+ million a year for Sean Payton. If Saleh falls on his face this year and gets canned, we’ll end up hiring another “up and coming” coordinator with zero head coaching experience. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peekskill68 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Saleh reminds me a of a young Pete Carroll. Kind of a rah rah guy trying to figure things out. Hess threw him overboard after 1 season and brought in an established "winner" in Rich Kotite. I'm willing to give Saleh some time to show his upside. But he has to start taking command of the team. Way too many unprepared, undisciplined efforts so far on his watch... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndianaJet Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 17 minutes ago, nycdan said: I would merge it if I could find it. I might make a unified 'random whine thread' and merge all of these together. Thoughts? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 1 minute ago, TuscanyTile2 said: I'm a LaFleur fan too. Saleh and Ullbrich haven't shown anything so far though. And even if they did, it's highly unlikely either will be Sean Payton's caliber. I agree that we need to keep JD (at least that's my current thinking). Independent of Sean Payton… • If Zack and the offense look great this year • D looks awful • We’re losing games because we look unprepared, unmotivated, and out-coached I wonder if J&J + JD look to fire Saleh and promote LaFleur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 give saleh a chance already. this is year two of his era. he's starting with way less than mcvay or shanahan jr did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 1 hour ago, nycdan said: I would merge it if I could find it. I might make a unified 'random whine thread' and merge all of these together. Thoughts? Perfection. All the whiners can whine to each other, spewing cliches like all we need is a QB or we can give a HC the keys as HC & GM and then be just “like KC”. Because somehow they don’t have a GM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker89 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 This place is bonkers lately.... such a desperate reactionary sickness...I love it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonCorleone Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 24 minutes ago, slats said: Let’s see what the season brings, shall we? If Saleh and/or Zach don’t look the part, I’m not throwing the baby out with the bath water. I’d be happy to bring in Payton if he’s willing to work with JD. I really don’t give a **** about the guy’s first draft during the pandemic, I like the team building I’ve seen the last couple years. This is very, very reasonable.. If** this second year is another disaster, why waste YET another? Good post! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 All aboard the fire Bobby Stairs train. Just getting a head start here. Like getting on board with a conventional 30 year mortgage when the interest rates were hovering around 3%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 41 minutes ago, Zerovoltz said: The Jets are in disarray. At the conclusion of the season, they need to clean house again. I know you guys are tired of starting over every 2-3 years but that’s where you are The team needs people at the top that know how to fix this. By fix I mean 1. Finding a QB and 2. Building a roster and depth. 3. Competent coaching. Go hire Payton and let Payton pick the GM. Same setup as KC. Payton knows QB talent, he knows football. He put together teams that were consistently competitive and always built with good depths through good drafts. in addition, having a coach who is also the de facto O coordinator ensures continuity with the QB and offense whereas having a D minded coach that ends up with good offense, having the o coordinator poached. Paton can fix your mess. Write the check or the Cowboys will. OMG has it been a week already? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Does a 25 year old Drew Brees come with him? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 34 minutes ago, nycdan said: I would merge it if I could find it. I might make a unified 'random whine thread' and merge all of these together. Thoughts? I should have banned him for longer than a week last time? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 #J-S-T-T Just sell the team! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WowOhWow Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 7 minutes ago, Lurker89 said: This place is bonkers lately.... such a desperate reactionary sickness...I love it You do know it's possible Salah is not the guy. It's actually possible. That's why people are commenting. They're not sold. I'm rooting like hell for him. I loved the hire. But I'm starting to get "how long is too long before we start talking about the elephant in the room" vibes. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 12 minutes ago, WowOhWow said: You do know it's possible Salah is not the guy. It's actually possible. That's why people are commenting. They're not sold. I'm rooting like hell for him. I loved the hire. But I'm starting to get "how long is too long before we start talking about the elephant in the room" vibes. He might need to sacrifice the DC to get to next year if that D doesn’t dramatically improve. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 47 minutes ago, nycdan said: I would merge it if I could find it. I might make a unified 'random whine thread' and merge all of these together. Thoughts? I like it, we can call it the Zach bashing JD and Saleh suck megathread Sad thing I am only half joking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurenceofarabia Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Bountygate, burnout.Sent from my SM-S908U using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerovoltz Posted August 23, 2022 Author Share Posted August 23, 2022 41 minutes ago, The Crusher said: I should have banned him for longer than a week last time? Come on @Crusher ! I’m talkin Jets football here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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