Bruce Harper Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 5 hours ago, DLJ said: I hope this dude goes away for a long time. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post UntouchableCrew Posted August 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 26, 2022 He’ll be cut. Bills are trying to win a Super Bowl they aren’t going to want this media firestorm over a punter. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 1 hour ago, neckdemon said: wow if this is true what pieces of sh*t these guys are. this is what the death penalty should be used for.....people that do things like this Yes “if” of course, but based on this detailed complaint it sure looks like he did it & it’s particularly bad. If convicted, what does one do with such remorseless sadists — reintegrate them back into society? Is there enough time that could pass whereby anyone would want to have such a convicted predator live next door to one’s family or friends? Let him out when she stops remembering being raped. Since that’ll be never… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberjet Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Araiza is not subject to punishment from the NFL because the alleged assault happened before he was drafted. Alleged misconduct that occurs before a player enters the NFL is not included in the terms of the league's Personal Conduct Policy agreed to by the players union. This will fall solely on the hands of Bills https://buffalonews.com/sports/bills/bills-punter-matt-araiza-accused-of-rape-in-civil-lawsuit-in-california/article_171ae48a-24c9-11ed-b936-13efce9cffa9.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 12 hours ago, Spoot-Face said: If convicted, I have only two words... Firing squad Dismemberment by horses 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Sawyer 37 Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 He is done. https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/sports/football/nfl/bills/2022/08/26/matt-araiza-rape-accusation-lawsuit-punt-god-aaron-donald-fight-swung-helmet-nfl-suspension/65457583007/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndianaJet Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Legal age of consent is 18 in California. She told him she was in HS. He admitted to having sex with her. Why isn't that enough probable cause to support an arrest or at the very least a search warrant to get his DNA? I'm assuming the girl and her friends reported it right away so she should have been seen by medical professionals who would have conducted a sexual assault exam and collected possible specims to hopefully get some dna from the perpetrators. Mind boggling. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 14 hours ago, Spoot-Face said: If convicted, I have only two words... Firing squad Prison gang rape? Let his see how it feels. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 College football should be destroyedIt is a joke ... they should just create a pro pony league and separate it completely from higher education. No one is getting fooled anymore. Especially since they can get paid for their names now.Sent from my SM-G950U1 using Tapatalk 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 He is done. https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/sports/football/nfl/bills/2022/08/26/matt-araiza-rape-accusation-lawsuit-punt-god-aaron-donald-fight-swung-helmet-nfl-suspension/65457583007/Holy sh*t .. if any of that is true this guy should.be sent to prison for life and locked up with the inmates with the largest cocks looking for some action. Absolutely disgusting.Sent from my SM-G950U1 using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Francis Sawyer 37 said: He is done. https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/sports/football/nfl/bills/2022/08/26/matt-araiza-rape-accusation-lawsuit-punt-god-aaron-donald-fight-swung-helmet-nfl-suspension/65457583007/ Bunch of losers. Rams should take swift actions against Donald, at least 4 games. On the other hand, the Bills will probably wait for the outcome of the case before taking any action. Disgusting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballLove Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 1 hour ago, IndianaJet said: Legal age of consent is 18 in California. She told him she was in HS. He admitted to having sex with her. Why isn't that enough probable cause to support an arrest or at the very least a search warrant to get his DNA? I'm assuming the girl and her friends reported it right away so she should have been seen by medical professionals who would have conducted a sexual assault exam and collected possible specims to hopefully get some dna from the perpetrators. Mind boggling. Some laws allow for underage sex as long as the 'offender' is not more than a yr or 2 older than the victim. She was 17, him probably 18. There's a lot of 18 yr olds dating 17 yr olds, so the sex by itself probably isn't a huge crime. Unless, of course, it was forced. He said She said. Outside of witnesses or other evidence (cell phone vids?) he'll probably walk. Or punt, as it may be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 disgusting predator. Throw away the key. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 20 minutes ago, FootballLove said: Some laws allow for underage sex as long as the 'offender' is not more than a yr or 2 older than the victim. She was 17, him probably 18. There's a lot of 18 yr olds dating 17 yr olds, so the sex by itself probably isn't a huge crime. Unless, of course, it was forced. He said She said. Outside of witnesses or other evidence (cell phone vids?) he'll probably walk. Or punt, as it may be. This was last year. He was 21. Romeo and Juliet clause definitely is not applicable in this case. And I suspect there's a whole lot more wrong here than what you characterized. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bay Ridge Jet Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Watching bills run circles to defend a punter. Sports can rot your brain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelScott Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 15 hours ago, jbt said: so what is that like a 13 game suspension if true? 11 is the going rate in the NFL for 20+ assaults. He might get suspended for warms ups for his last preseason game. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndianaJet Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 52 minutes ago, FootballLove said: Some laws allow for underage sex as long as the 'offender' is not more than a yr or 2 older than the victim. She was 17, him probably 18. There's a lot of 18 yr olds dating 17 yr olds, so the sex by itself probably isn't a huge crime. Unless, of course, it was forced. He said She said. Outside of witnesses or other evidence (cell phone vids?) he'll probably walk. Or punt, as it may be. Some laws yes...but not California. With respect to the crime of statutory rape in California, the age of consent it 18. There are no "Romeo & Juliet" exceptions. Age does come into consideration with respect to how the crime is charged. If the defendant is no more than 3 years older than the victim, the crime gets charged as a misdemeanor. If, as in this case, the defendant is more than 3 years older, the defendant can be charged with a felony. Araiza was 21 at the time, the victim was 17. Araiza's only possible defense to a statutory rape charge is that he reasonably believed she was 18 at the time. For instance, if she showed him a fake id that had her age at 18+ is one possible way for him get out of a statutory rape charge. Nevertheless, this is not just statutory rape. With statutory rape, consent is not an issue. Here the allegations are that she was incapable of giving consent because she was so drunk. So even if he reasonably believed she was 18, it's illegal to have sex with her if she's so drunk she cannot give actual consent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, FootballLove said: Some laws allow for underage sex as long as the 'offender' is not more than a yr or 2 older than the victim. She was 17, him probably 18. There's a lot of 18 yr olds dating 17 yr olds, so the sex by itself probably isn't a huge crime. Unless, of course, it was forced. He said She said. Outside of witnesses or other evidence (cell phone vids?) he'll probably walk. Or punt, as it may be. Article is reporting left with bloody face, ripped out belly ring and bloody vagina .... after being led to gang rape by Araiza. Edited August 26, 2022 by Dunnie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defensedoesntgetyoulaid Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Any truth to this at all I hope they just cut him and let him take his medicine alone. I'm shocked Beane knew about the accusations and kept him anyway 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oatmeal Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, defensedoesntgetyoulaid said: Any truth to this at all I hope they just cut him and let him take his medicine alone. I'm shocked Beane knew about the accusations and kept him anyway Why are you shocked? This league is about $ and those who can generate it. Oh wait you are probably one of those poor souls that believe in that “character” crap literally every organization in the nfl preaches ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, oatmeal said: Why are you shocked? This league is about $ and those who can generate it. Oh wait you are probably one of those poor souls that believe in that “character” crap literally every organization in the nfl preaches ?? But for a punter? The Bills had to know this was going to get out. You know bad press is coming - why put up with it for a punter? The risk/reward seems off. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 9 hours ago, DLJ said: Kill those mother****ers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defensedoesntgetyoulaid Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 1 minute ago, oatmeal said: Why are you shocked? This league is about $ and those who can generate it. Oh wait you are probably one of those poor souls that believe in that “character” crap literally every organization in the nfl preaches ?? I'm shocked he would do that for a punter. Everyone knows superstars like Watson get defended by their team. Generally the amount of support a player garners from his organisation is in direct proportion to his talent and what he can do for the team. For a punter to be kept by his team (a team that doesn't even punt all that much) after such a terrible accusation and apparently a large body of evidence, it definitely seems strange 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 5 hours ago, Bronx said: Class act by these assholes: San Diego State has faced scrutiny after a recent Los Angeles Times report found the school did not properly alert the campus community of the allegations, instead waiting seven months. These ****ers too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defensedoesntgetyoulaid Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Just now, slimjasi said: But for a punter? The Bills had to know this was going to get out. You know bad press is coming - why put up with it for a punter? The risk/reward seems off. Exactly. I heard they knew this was coming down a month ago. I can't imagine they called him into a room and said "is this true?" and after he said no they said thanks and let him go back to practice. As a fan I hope they have some info that proves he wasn't involved, but as someone who has spent months being disgusted at the whole Watson situation I hope if there is any truth to it at all that they just cut the guy and wash their hands of him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Forget Araiza. I hope the girl gets all the help she possibly can. Ugh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 paid leave until he successfully defends his innocence ... if he cant ... cut him loose and let him face whatever comes his way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 there seems to be enough there to kick him out of football, and they should. maybe if they stopped treating football players like they were celebrities from like 15yo they wouldnt act like assholes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oatmeal Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 39 minutes ago, slimjasi said: But for a punter? The Bills had to know this was going to get out. You know bad press is coming - why put up with it for a punter? The risk/reward seems off. the bills knew about the accusations and potential charges what does this tell you? pretty obvious to me him being a punter… okay? can he not help them win????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 7 minutes ago, oatmeal said: the bills knew about the accusations and potential charges what does this tell you? pretty obvious to me him being a punter… okay? can he not help them win????? Sure, but it just seems like an insane risk/reward calculation from the Buffalo's perspective. Even if the Bills are run by worst people on earth, it still doesn't make sense that they hung onto this guy knowing this stuff was coming to light sooner or later. Just seems like a major oversight on their part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotter Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 surprised the media (from what I have seen) does not have this yet. Once they do he will be cut and the NFL will release a statement saying that they do not tolerate this behavior in any way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oatmeal Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 7 minutes ago, slimjasi said: Sure, but it just seems like an insane risk/reward calculation from the Buffalo's perspective. Even if the Bills are run by worst people on earth, it still doesn't make sense that they hung onto this guy knowing this stuff was coming to light sooner or later. Just seems like a major oversight on their part. It doesn’t make sense? Well it happened reports are the bills knew about this before reports came out and guess what… the creep is still on the team as we type idk why you are twisting yourself into this pretzel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, oatmeal said: It doesn’t make sense? Well it happened reports are the bills knew about this before reports came out and guess what… the creep is still on the team as we type idk why you are twisting yourself into this pretzel Why are you so upset? No one is twisting anything - we are just commenting on how strange it is that the Bills would take a chance on this guy at all. Take a chill pill. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 15 hours ago, jetspenguin said: I haven't seen this one yet! Nice job 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 I think we should rush to judgment and just put Araiza in jail and throw away the key. /s 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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