HighPitch Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 45 minutes ago, RevisIsland610 said: He's making excuses for ZW. He's thrown for 230 yards the last 2 games combined and he made some poor throws. and didnt make mistakes and came away with the wins 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadienJetsFan Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 Be happy all you QB gurus. 4-0 that’s what matters. you’d think we are 0-4 with him at the helm. madone, you would think somebody’s dog died over here. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 30 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: Simms is totally wrong here. If you watch Zach Wilson play these last 3 week and think there is 0 to be concerned about, then you have an agenda(which simms does) or you dont know much football. 100% agree. And its not nec. about 'concern'. I don't nec. know what that means. Are we talking concern short term, concern long term, concern for him becoming a certain level of player or reaching that level on a certain timeline? Right now its just about Zach not playing well. Not making the throws he should, not making the right reads, pressing. He's extremely lucky to have not turned the ball over these passed few games. Am I worried he's a bust. No, not yet. The talent is clearly there. He's got his head on straight and he is very young. Is it clear he is not playing good football? Absolutely. I would argue he is holding back the potential of this offense more than any other starter. Should we bench him for Flacco or White or Streveler? Absolutely not. We've committed to our QB and we are winning games. Give the kid a chance to grow and get better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heymangold Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 Zach stinks. It’s that simple. He misses open guys all the time, careless with the ball. Is he turning it over? No - but there have been 3-4 throws that should have been picked, along with that fumble in Denver that was wrongly overturned. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Irish Jet Posted October 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 25, 2022 The first thing he says is literally wrong. He was absolutely missing wide open guys. He didn’t watch the game. 14 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted October 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 25, 2022 Chris Simms likes Zach Wilson so much because they’re the same player (Simms after 16 starts/Zach after 17 starts) 2 2 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuicidalSince98 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 1 minute ago, heymangold said: Zach stinks. It’s that simple. He misses open guys all the time, careless with the ball. Is he turning it over? No - but there have been 3-4 throws that should have been picked, along with that fumble in Denver that was wrongly overturned. Wilson has 2 picks over last 9 games and two career games with more than 1 turnover. One career lost fumble. He is absolutely not careless with the ball 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vader Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 Simms obviously didn't watch the game. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILLY Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 26 minutes ago, PorP said: Dude WTF happened to you? Did @T0mShane hack your account? Are you OK? Blink twice or blow your rape whistle if you need help You went from insanely optimistic to clinically depressed in 2 injuries flat. Get a grip man, I want the old Joe back! me too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Maxman Posted October 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 25, 2022 21 minutes ago, aagarcia said: That’s why I don’t post here anymore except for this one today. Because you’re all sorry ass fans. Bunch of little whiny bitches Personal attacks aren't allowed. But since you said you aren't posting here anymore, I guess this isn't an issue anymore. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All Gas, No Gase Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 After watching the All 22 of the GB game I wasn’t nearly as down on Zach as I was watching the game as the receivers had a hard time getting open much of the game. Before watching thr All 22, I thought he had a bad game I thought he had a decent game after watching it. Zach really appears to have digressed in the Denver game though, poorer footwork, missing open receivers on throws and not seeing an open receivers. If you notice on the replay, after Zach spun away from the free rusher, he could have thrown to the wide open receiver in the flat which would have been a spectacular play by itself. Instead he tried to spin away from another rusher and almost gave Denver a fumble-6. I wonder if he didn’t see the receiver or if he was trying to make a splash play to impress the next MILF. Either reason is concerning. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILLY Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, heymangold said: Zach stinks. It’s that simple. He misses open guys all the time, careless with the ball. Is he turning it over? No - but there have been 3-4 throws that should have been picked, along with that fumble in Denver that was wrongly overturned. Yep - ALL the time. Completion percentage Flacco - 58% Wilson - 57% Fields - 56% Mayfield - 55% 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuicidalSince98 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, All Gas, No Gase said: After watching the All 22 of the GB game I wasn’t nearly as down on Zach as I was watching the game as the receivers had a hard time getting open much of the game. Before watching thr All 22, I thought he had a bad game I thought he had a decent game after watching it. Zach really appears to have digressed in the Denver game though, poorer footwork, missing open receivers on throws and not seeing an open receivers. If you notice on the replay, after Zach spun away from the free rusher, he could have thrown to the wide open receiver in the flat which would have been a spectacular play by itself. Instead he tried to spin away from another rusher and almost gave Denver a fumble-6. I wonder if he didn’t see the receiver or if he was trying to make a splash play to impress the next MILF. Either reason is concerning. Let’s see how things play out 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 Last week the offense had a lot of problems, and a lot of it was caused by the defense and a lot of it was self inflicted, including Zach missing some easy throws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker89 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 43 minutes ago, PorP said: Dude WTF happened to you? Did @T0mShane hack your account? Are you OK? Blink twice or blow your rape whistle if you need help You went from insanely optimistic to clinically depressed in 2 injuries flat. Get a grip man, I want the old Joe back! I like him like this. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post THE BARON Posted October 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Jetlife33 said: Nitpicking ??? It would be nitpicking if ZW missed a single pass or made some excusable mistake within the context of a great game. Or, talking him down after a single bad game within a string of great games. Fans are not nitpicking. ZW has been awful. Worse than that, there has been no improvement arc. Some are pointing to a single quarter in a single game as proof of his improvement. Ugh... He's been worse than bad. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post undertow Posted October 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 25, 2022 Gaslighting has become as American as apple pie. 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 46 minutes ago, Dunnie said: Or .. wait for it... The team played opposition with excellent defenses and Zach has struggled behind an extremely suspect OL as a young QB can be expected to. Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk so he can only play well against bad defenses like Pittsburgh? so i guess we cant expect much these next 3 games right? but i bet he looks good against the Lions and you can say how he is improving? if he cant play good against our 2 biggest division rivals then what are we doing? and young? well i just seen Fields who didnt look great but not bad like Zach. he has more mobility than Zach and still stood strong in the pocket and made plays. i seen him make throws where Zach would have left the pocket. it will be interesting to see who has a better game vs NE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Paradis Posted October 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 25, 2022 If we were going to champion limiting mistakes and game management, why didn't we just sign Case Keenum or some other crusty Jag to hand it off... We've seen literally none of the "upside" that made him the 2nd pick overall in the draft. All this arm talent, amazing ability, an exceptional talent etc has been almost entirely absent sauf 1 stretch vs TEN last year. Blame whomever you want, that's the truth. Making routine throws against soft cover 2 in the 4th quarter is hardly something to be elated about. I dunno. That's where i'm stuck at 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 53 minutes ago, Warfish said: Zach Wilson is pretty much the lowest producing QB in the NFL last year and this year so far. If he thinks that's "good enough" because the team has won in spite of Wilson, I respectfully disagree. It's not about the Denver game alone. It's about the full resume and quality/quantity of production as a whole to-date. If a guy was hovering around the mid-tiers of QB production has a low-production game vs. that Denver D, ok. But Zach is low-production pretty much as a whole so far in his career. I can enjoy the win, earned primarily on the back of Hall and the D and the Refs not calling Wilson's fumble a fumble, and still think Wilson needs to do better to sustain long-term ongoing success. I agree. Douglas is showing he’s ready to win now. I’m willing to bet if Wilson doesn’t improve his worst-in-the-league play, JD will move off him this offseason. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CanadienJetsFan Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 pa·tience /ˈpāSHəns/ Learn to pronounce noun 1. the capacity to accept or tolerate delay, trouble, or suffering without getting angry or upset. I’d to poll all you Zach naysayers: are you Mets fans? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 44 minutes ago, PorP said: Dude WTF happened to you? Did @T0mShane hack your account? Are you OK? Blink twice or blow your rape whistle if you need help You went from insanely optimistic to clinically depressed in 2 injuries flat. Get a grip man, I want the old Joe back! its not the injuries he is talking about. its Zach. even Joe knows we cant keep winning with QB play this bad. soon you will too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJCAP2 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 Wilson has taken two steps so far in this young season: -Protecting the football. -Elevated play during crunch time. There is still a lot to criticize about his play outside of those points. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorP Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, doitny said: its not the injuries he is talking about. its Zach. even Joe knows we cant keep winning with QB play this bad. soon you will too I conceded to @T0mShane last night about the QB. Doesn't mean I want to see @Joe W. Namath lose his optimism. Joe was the silver lining that cut through a whole bunch of negative whiny drivel by a bunch of people who should be more conservative with thier football opinions. This place is gonna suck if Joe caught the disease. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 54 minutes ago, PorP said: Dude WTF happened to you? Did @T0mShane hack your account? Are you OK? Blink twice or blow your rape whistle if you need help You went from insanely optimistic to clinically depressed in 2 injuries flat. Get a grip man, I want the old Joe back! When you run on emotion, everything can 180 in an instant. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Warfish Posted October 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 25, 2022 38 minutes ago, CanadienJetsFan said: Be happy all you QB gurus. 4-0 that’s what matters. you’d think we are 0-4 with him at the helm. madone, you would think somebody’s dog died over here. Just curious, if the reverse also true? If we lose the game, but Zach produced huge passing yards and many passing TD's, is that not good enough for you, because we lost, even if the loss is mostly due to the running game and defense? Seems to me wins is a team stat, not a QB stat. At almost all of the QB stats, Zach is amongst the lowest producing this year, same as last. Let's take it to an extreme, if Zach goes 0 for 10, with 0 yards, 0 TD's, and 2 INT's, and is sacked 5 times, but the Jets win, is that still good enough and we shouldn't be critical of him? We won, and no ones dog died, after all. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rex-n-effect Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 If "fine" means he didn't cost the team the game but he didn't drive the victory, then he did fine. It definitely wasn't his best performance of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JustInFudge Posted October 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Jetlife33 said: What a dipsh*t, just trying to double down on his asinine predraft takes after Fields just whipped the floor w/ BB and his D in Foxborough while Kellen Mond sits on a practice squad somewhere. I'm stoked the Jets are 5-2 but Zach Wilson still needs to be play a sh*t ton better and stop doing pirouettes in the back field . 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Warfish said: Just curious, if the reverse also true? If we lose the game, but Zach produced huge passing yards and many passing TD's, is that not good enough for you, because we lost, even if the loss is mostly due to the running game and defense? Seems to me wins is a team stat, not a QB stat. At almost all of the QB stats, Zach is amongst the lowest producing this year, same as last. Let's take it to an extreme, if Zach goes 0 for 10, with 0 yards, 0 TD's, and 2 INT's, and is sacked 5 times, but the Jets win, is that still good enough and we shouldn't be critical of him? We won, and no ones dog died, after all. Re-read the thread from last year when the Pats beat the Bills and Mac only threw 3 passes (completing 1 IIRC). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorP Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, jgb said: When you run on emotion, everything can 180 in an instant. You're right about that. Just hope Joe gets right. His positive emotion was a nice add to the board. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Spoot-Face Posted October 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 25, 2022 58 minutes ago, PorP said: Dude WTF happened to you? Did @T0mShane hack your account? Are you OK? Blink twice or blow your rape whistle if you need help You went from insanely optimistic to clinically depressed in 2 injuries flat. Get a grip man, I want the old Joe back! Don't listen to him, @Joe W. Namath! I like you better this way! 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 54 minutes ago, aagarcia said: That’s why I don’t post here anymore except for this one today. Because you’re all sorry ass fans. Bunch of little whiny bitches Thanks for dropping in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 Just now, Spoot-Face said: Don't listen to him, @Joe W. Namath! I like you better this way! Worried about his ticker. I hope he’s a thin man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 Just now, Spoot-Face said: Thanks for dropping in! Teh good fans don’t add anything except to call other fans “bitches.” We have been doing it wrong this whole time, spoot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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