Supersonic Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Let's just cut to the chase. Put up or shut up. I believe the Jets starting QB next season will be someone who's not currently on the roster. I don't believe Mike White is the long term solution. Zach Wilson is a wild card. IMO, the book isn't closed on Zach yet, but he has a lot of work to do. My hope is they sign a good veteran QB with proven success. It's the final piece of the puzzle. Time to stop d!cking around. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal N of Provo Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Nope. And Zach gives the team a better chance to win now 1 10 3 6 3 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 92ShaunEllis92 Posted December 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 5, 2022 Mike White will give the Jets the best chance to win now within the current offensive scheme in distributing the pigskin to the playmakers. he’s not a savior for this franchise but he can keep the Jets competitive as long as the talent surrounds him is legit. He can be efficient and the system will yield gaudy QB stats/numbers because he lets his skill players do the work; Marc Bulger comes to mind as an example of what Mike White can be IF he stays healthy. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BurntDice Posted December 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 5, 2022 I want White to be the franchise savior but it seems highly unlikely. People keep bringing up his 300 yards passing. When you throw it that many times it’s not an accomplishment. Flacco threw for 900 yards in 3 games. Was Flacco good? Would you want him to be the starter next year? Hell no. We’ll see what happens the rest of the year, but I want a vet qb in here. I’m looking at Danny Dimes right now. Young, over 60 completion % every year, can run well, doesn’t throw a ton of picks, strong arm. 3 2 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets723 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Agreed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Irish Jet Posted December 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Hal N of Provo said: Nope. And Zach gives the team a better chance to win now 1 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pajet Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Supersonic said: Let's just cut to the chase. Put up or shut up. I believe the Jets starting QB next season will be someone who's not currently on the roster. I don't believe Mike White is the long term solution. Zach Wilson is a wild card. IMO, the book isn't closed on Zach yet, but he has a lot of work to do. My hope is they sign a good veteran QB with proven success. It's the final piece of the puzzle. Time to stop d!cking around. Don't get me wrong. I love Mike White (no homo). Love the moxie. love the composure. But bottom line, he has all of the intangibles in spades. But he doesn't have the natural ability to get it done in the tough situations with everything on the line. 2 shots inside the 20 with less than 3 minutes to go. FQB finds a way to score there. Even the drive where they go the TD on 4th and Goal. Love the moxie and the drive to get it into the endzone, but damn, that was way more difficult to score than it should have been. It's not like they were facing the Steal Curtain (or even the Purple People Eaters). He is good enough to make plays now and lead the team. I just dont believe he is good enough to get over the top. Hope he proves me wrong. More than willing to ride the rest of this season with him. This team is too good to waste on Pennington light. 5 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jetsons Posted December 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 5, 2022 If Zach isn't the answer the Jets Will Need a new QB. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TuscanyTile2 Posted December 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 5, 2022 4 hours ago, Supersonic said: Let's just cut to the chase. Put up or shut up. I believe the Jets starting QB next season will be someone who's not currently on the roster. I don't believe Mike White is the long term solution. Zach Wilson is a wild card. IMO, the book isn't closed on Zach yet, but he has a lot of work to do. My hope is they sign a good veteran QB with proven success. It's the final piece of the puzzle. Time to stop d!cking around. MW has had 5 career starts and finished 4 of them, yet we have to "cut to the chase" and decide right now if he's the guy going forward? ZW has had 20 starts, yet many of us (including me) are still not sure either way about him (though the early signs are not good). 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hawk Posted December 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 5, 2022 People get so fixated on the Patrick Mahommes type of QB. The Josh Allen types. The guy who IS the offense instead of seeing the guy we have that runs an offense. Drew Brees, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning were not Mahomes or Allen, right? Start seeing the intangibles that White brings to the team in his game and you will see a guy that can run your offense. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Mike White sure is easy to root for and I’m hoping he’s the guy, but my doubts increased yesterday because I want a QB with “it”, and I’m fairly sure that a QB with “it” finds a way to get a TD with all of those opportunities at the end of the game. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 The anti-MW crowd is so desperate right now. There are 5 games left in regular season and MW just gave us the 2 best QB performances this team has seen #SinceHimself. Yet there are polls like this being posted (and there's also Fidelio trying to convince people that "MW deserves part of the blame yesterday" because he wasn't 100% perfect). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Warfish Posted December 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 5, 2022 I don’t know. The odds are against it. But I remain interested in seeing more, something I cannot say about Wilson or Flacco. That’s enough for now, the future doesn’t have to be decided now or even this season. We have a long off-season for JD to make that evaluation. 6 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuicidalSince98 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Yes he is a really good NFL QB. Cousins, Dak, Carr, that level of player. Plus he is a leader and and a great person. He should be extended and be the starter until a young player just absolutely outplayed him practice or he gets hurt. We aren’t going to find a better option in free agency. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JiFtheOracle Posted December 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 5, 2022 What? "No" is leading the votes. WTF is wrong w/ this fanbase? Who cares where the guy was drafted and maybe Zach has a stronger arm. I honestly dont understand what people are missing here, this is unprecedented territory this dude is living in w/ his production. Nobody does this and you guys are like, nah, I'm good, lets move on and hope to upgrade? I dont even have the words to explain my confusion. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 42 minutes ago, Sonny Werblin said: Mike White sure is easy to root for and I’m hoping he’s the guy, but my doubts increased yesterday because I want a QB with “it”, and I’m fairly sure that a QB with “it” finds a way to get a TD with all of those opportunities at the end of the game. To be fair he kind of did with the Berrios drop but I 100% get your point, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 16 minutes ago, JiFields said: What? "No" is leading the votes. WTF is wrong w/ this fanbase? Who cares where the guy was drafted and maybe Zach has a stronger arm. I honestly dont understand what people are missing here, this is unprecedented territory this dude is living in w/ his production. Nobody does this and you guys are like, nah, I'm good, lets move on and hope to upgrade? I dont even have the words to explain my confusion. He’s also not signed after this year so that’s another factor to be considered. Unless we are announcing our franchise QBs for next year before he’s even signed? Again? Oh hell! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 I think he's the guy until we find the better guy. I don't think he warrants a 5 year max deal, but he is someone we should re-sign for a year or two while we hope Zack comes to form or we draft / sign / trade for someone better. Mike White is better than what we've had in a long time but we should be looking for something more in the meantime. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y2k8 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 I refrained from answering because we need the rest of season to "see what we have in Mike White." Zach apologists should completely agree with this statement. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuicidalSince98 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 12 minutes ago, The Crusher said: He’s also not signed after this year so that’s another factor to be considered. Unless we are announcing our franchise QBs for next year before he’s even signed? Again? Oh hell! I would sign him today to a 3 year 35 million deal with 20 guaranteed 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 1 hour ago, TuscanyTile2 said: MW has had 5 career starts and finished 4 of them, yet we have to "cut to the chase" and decide right now if he's the guy going forward? ZW has had 20 starts, yet many of us (including me) are still not sure either way about him (though the early signs are not good). Exactly this. I’m also a guy who hasn’t closed the book on ZW after only 20 starts and believes he has some elite traits, but I find it fascinating that there are people who still want to give Zach more rope but are already willing to dump Mike White. Just a bizarre take. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankiepapa Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Mike White sure is easy to root for and I’m hoping he’s the guy, but my doubts increased yesterday because I want a QB with “it”, and I’m fairly sure that a QB with “it” finds a way to get a TD with all of those opportunities at the end of the game. So many good points here but would love to see him get a chance to finish the season and even get a playoff game so we can have a decent sample of game experience to judge this guy on... yes, he's only started a few games for a reason but at this point, we have to wait and seeSent from my SM-G996U using Tapatalk 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 12 minutes ago, SuicidalSince98 said: I would sign him today to a 3 year 35 million deal with 20 guaranteed Me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Just now, Sonny Werblin said: Man Don Johnson still looks good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 54 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: The anti-MW crowd is so desperate right now. There are 5 games left in regular season and MW just gave us the 2 best QB performances this team has seen #SinceHimself. Yet there are polls like this being posted (and there's also Fidelio trying to convince people that "MW deserves part of the blame yesterday" because he wasn't 100% perfect). I am not anti mike white. I’m pro jet and a realist. Let’s ride Mike White for the rest of the season to give him the best opportunity possible. Right now I think that many are comparing white to wilson and there is no doubt he is way better than wilson. In fact, white has played the best QB for the jets since Fitz. I think we’re all thirsty for solid QB play. God knows it’s been years since we had any. But let’s take a breath and let the season play out before we crown mike white the franchise QB. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSNY Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 White is the best QB on the team as of now in the mold of Pennington who was an ok QB Don’t think he will be the QB on the team next year as White will be asking for more money than the Jets are willing to pay him and will let him walk as they don’t seem to truly believe in Whites abilities My feeling is, now with Jimmy G hurt ,the Jets will go after Danny Jones at QB (4 years 50 million 17-20 guaranteed structure so he can be cut with minimal cap damage in year 3) , draft a QB in the later rounds (possibly 3rd or 4th) retain Zach as the backup for one more year and see if he can be salvaged to some degree, then traded to get anything in return. Streveler returns to the practice squad Don’t think Zach is in there long term plans unless there is a remarkable and I mean truly remarkable turnaround which at this time seems highly unlikely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 1 hour ago, TuscanyTile2 said: MW has had 5 career starts and finished 4 of them, yet we have to "cut to the chase" and decide right now if he's the guy going forward? ZW has had 20 starts, yet many of us (including me) are still not sure either way about him (though the early signs are not good). I think this is true. We shouldn't be cutting to the chase yet. But, unfortunately, at the end of this year the team is going to have to make a call. I would love to have a 20+ game look into Mike White - but that's not going to happen. There's 5 more regular season games left.. And the Jets are going to have make a decision on whether to bring in a Jimmy G. or Carr type - if they do that's the QB and Mike White is probably a back up on another roster. Or roll with Mike White as the incumbent. In a perfect world you would have more time to judge. But we don't. So it's okay to start looking at his performances from the lens of - is he the future. We don't need to answer it yet, but will have to in 5 weeks (well hopefully more with playoffs) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 12 minutes ago, Sonny Werblin said: I am not anti mike white. I’m pro jet and a realist. Let’s ride Mike White for the rest of the season to give him the best opportunity possible. Right now I think that many are comparing white to wilson and there is no doubt he is way better than wilson. In fact, white has played the best QB for the jets since Fitz. I think we’re all thirsty for solid QB play. God knows it’s been years since we had any. But let’s take a breath and let the season play out before we crown mike white the franchise QB. I'm not referring to you. I'm referring to people asking questions like "Let's just cut to the chase. Put up or shut up." after 2 MW starts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darnold Schwarzenegger Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 As of today I have no reason to believe that he can’t be our franchise qb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: I think this is true. We shouldn't be cutting to the chase yet. But, unfortunately, at the end of this year the team is going to have to make a call. I would love to have a 20+ game look into Mike White - but that's not going to happen. There's 5 more regular season games left.. And the Jets are going to have make a decision on whether to bring in a Jimmy G. or Carr type - if they do that's the QB and Mike White is probably a back up on another roster. Or roll with Mike White as the incumbent. In a perfect world you would have more time to judge. But we don't. So it's okay to start looking at his performances from the lens of - is he the future. We don't need to answer it yet, but will have to in 5 weeks (well hopefully more with playoffs) It would almost be impossible for MW to win the starting job for next year in 2 starts. The one thing we know for sure, though, is that MW hasn't played himself out of consideration. He's been between "very good" to "HOF-worthy" in 3 of his 5 starts. The early returns are that MW looks like a starting QB in this league but JD doesn't need to make any decisions right now. So stop trying to play passive-aggressive game of "if you really trust him then put your cards on the table right now and say so". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Our franchise QB isn’t on the roster White has done a solid job and should continue starting the rest of the year provided that he doesn’t completely sh*t his britches. But that’s completely different than giving him a 3+ year deal after the season and handing him the reigns. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Too early with only 5 games under his belt. Give him the rest of the season to evaluate better. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Thank goodness we had Joe Flacco start the first 3 games of the year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 I think they should start The Strev the rest of the way. * This is meant with 100% sarcasm in case there's any confusion whatsoever about that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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