SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 9 minutes ago, Matt39 said: I honestly don’t think how anyone could walk away from these latest comments and not believe Zach’s family has influence here. I have never seen anything like this. You're quite literally the only person that believes this lol. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 Zach will come down as the best 3rd stringer ever drafted on the top 10 of the NFL. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBJ Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 ZachNation4Life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 Woody should say this b/c if he says wilson would be released why would anyone trade for him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 25 Author Share Posted March 25 2 minutes ago, bicketybam said: I think the plan is to keep Zach and when a contending team has a QB injury after the season starts the Jets will trade TYROD TAYLOR and NOT Zach Wilson. Wilson will be elevated to QB2 and if Rodgers doesn't get hurt they will claim Aaron is too distracted to play football (biography, VP run) and Zach will be inserted as the starter. This is the master plan that even Matt missed. I can see it clear as day now. Great grand terrific 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcoops Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 A pretty desperate - and transparent - attempt to rebuild whatever little trade value Zach Wilson ever had. He will not be on the roster when the season starts - I'd personally bet all of you guys' mortgages on that. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBJ Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 Maybe if some team loses four QBs during the season, we can get a 6th for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 13 minutes ago, Matt39 said: I honestly don’t think how anyone could walk away from these latest comments and not believe Zach’s family has influence here. I have never seen anything like this. I think there’s that, but I’d also guess that Woody can’t reconcile why Darnold would net a 2 and a 5 and Zach can’t get anything at all. Douglas’ face-saving maneuver was to blame it on Hogan on the way out the door, but what does Woody get after three disaster seasons? Another bill for $5.5 mil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetblue95 Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 i get that the best course of action is for woody just the STFU and not comment, but do people really think it would be better for woody to say that if we can't find a trade for zach, we will just cut him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetblue95 Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 2 minutes ago, mrcoops said: A pretty desperate - and transparent - attempt to rebuild whatever little trade value Zach Wilson ever had. He will not be on the roster when the season starts - I'd personally bet all of you guys' mortgages on that. can i take you up on that offer? i mean i want nothing to do with zach on the jets roster, but i can live with that if you are paying off my mortgage... 😁 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballLove Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 See, when Woody made that comment about not having a BU QB, I don't think he was talking about ZW. From Woody's eyes, the plan was to SIT Zack for the 2023 season. But when AR went down, we didn't have a BU QB ready to go, so we had to dust Zack off and send him back out there, which was never the plan. At least not in Woody's mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 14 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Best case interpretation of these quotes is that the “offers” they were allegedly getting involved eating all of Zach’s salary (as Florio suggested this morning) in return for something along of the lines of a 2025 7th. Woody, here, thinks Douglas can do better. If there’s any interest in Zach—no matter how meager—Woody believe the acquiring team should take on the $5.5 mil. A normal franchise would try to be professional and let the kid go to a new team ASAP so the Jets can wash their hands of it, but it appears as though Woody has a special animus for the kid and his family, and wants at least some return on his pitiably investment. Conclusion: it’s pretty clear why Jets management seems entirely inoperable from the inside, because you have this old, sad, attention-seeking no-account in a position to weigh in with the power of his granddad’s purse. Imagine being Joe Douglas trying to operate this team and you have this ******* loser billionaire with nothing else to do just waiting for opportunities to make himself part of the process. What a fiasco. Meh, Douglas was still a useless pile of turds when he had full reign over this team with Simple Chris sitting in the corner counting his toes and Woody nowhere in sight. The amount of mental gymnastics needed to suggest it's not JD's fault that he's consistently incompetent tells the story. JD is the same guy who kept Mims around for 2 years of not playing because of some supposed value before trading him for a conditional 7th that was never even met. It's just more of the same from him. Doesn't make Woody any good at anything mind you, but them both being useless is in absolutely no way mutually exclusive. It's rather been proven to be extremely likely. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 Called this in another thread and got laughed at 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 Let’s Go Woody!!! The haul is coming. Be patient. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayzor Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 any way we go into the season with 4 QBs? Assuming we draft one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rex-n-effect Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 Between this and the rumors in the other thread, just seems a lot like a desperate PR campaign to elicit trade offers before the draft. It's real nuts that Woody or anybody else in the front office believes other teams can be duped into this nonsense. It's on brand for this team but still nuts. Or JetBlue strikes again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicketybam Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 13 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Great grand terrific I have to say I didn't see it coming. Whoever crafted this plan is a mad genius. It started with Woody's initial comments which were designed to kill any trade value Zach had. Then I think they got Rodgers involved....told him to become more of a distraction. Maybe it was Woodrow himself that floated the VP idea to him? The only thing I'm unsure of is if maybe the plan is to have Rodgers retire, elevate Tyrod and if an injury doesn't happen by week 5 they can claim Taylor was ineffective and elevate Wilson to QB1. Woody and the Wilsons were truly thinking outside the box on this one. Fooled us all, but not any more! I see through them all and their schemes! How deep does the conspiracy go?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdeet Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 The funny thing is, you idiots think this is true. Dumb asses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 25 Author Share Posted March 25 2 minutes ago, rex-n-effect said: Between this and the rumors in the other thread, just seems a lot like a desperate PR campaign to elicit trade offers before the draft. It's real nuts that Woody or anybody else in the front office believes other teams can be duped into this nonsense. It's on brand for this team but still nuts. Or JetBlue strikes again. I just think Woody wants the kid here. Zach realizes he has it good with the Jets too. Anyone see him working out this offseason? He at the facility? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 7 minutes ago, Bleedin Green said: Meh, Douglas was still a useless pile of turds when he had full reign over this team with Simple Chris sitting in the corner counting his toes and Woody nowhere in sight. The amount of mental gymnastics needed to suggest it's not JD's fault that he's consistently incompetent tells the story. JD is the same guy who kept Mims around for 2 years of not playing because of some supposed value before trading him for a conditional 7th that was never even met. It's just more of the same from him. Doesn't make Woody any good at anything mind you, but them both being useless is in absolutely no way mutually exclusive. It's rather been proven to be extremely likely. Did not mean to exonerate Douglas, but the entire thirty year reign of error swallowing up the careers of the people who took the jobs and the barriers it out up in trying to find the next guys to take these jobs is all Woody. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peekskill68 Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 15 minutes ago, Bronx said: Zach will come down as the best 3rd stringer ever drafted on the top 10 of the NFL. Don't laugh. If you have to eat most of the gtee money and are only offered the equivalent of a deferred Day 3 pick (very low value), you are basically evaluating Zach vs. guys replacing him like Tim Boyle and Streveler. On that basis, unless he lifts his leg like Elijah Moore or pulls a Isaiah Crowell and starts endorsing Dude Wipes, he's likely back as QB3... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicketybam Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 1 minute ago, Matt39 said: I just think Woody wants the kid here. Zach realizes he has it good with the Jets too. Anyone see him working out this offseason? He at the facility? The plan was crafted and is in place. There is no "I think Woody wants the kid here." Woody, the Wilson's and the rest of the JetBlue/Mormon syndicate have set the wheels in motion. Only a Jack Ryan type can undo what has already been done. The depth of this goes beyond what we may never know. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcoops Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 19 minutes ago, Adoni Beast said: Called this in another thread and got laughed at It's not happening. This is just Woody attempting damage control to rebuild some trade value. Zach will be gone before opening day. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 22 minutes ago, FootballLove said: See, when Woody made that comment about not having a BU QB, I don't think he was talking about ZW. From Woody's eyes, the plan was to SIT Zack for the 2023 season. But when AR went down, we didn't have a BU QB ready to go, so we had to dust Zack off and send him back out there, which was never the plan. At least not in Woody's mind. Oh I think we all got that, but it was asinine to say anything left to interpretation. Never mind it blatantly indicates even the owner, who's seen this team fail at QB over & over, doesn't think he was fit to be a backup QB (which is also a quasi-indication the coaches & perhaps some of the players think the same thing). He should work on keeping his mouth closed & limiting his tweets to uniform redesigns (if even that). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extmenace Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 I mean, If you think about, the jets wanted Zach to take a year off and learn from Rodgers with no pressure to play. That never happened. The team has no developmental qb on the roster…if they release him, the jets are on the hook for the money anyways. They have tyrod as the true back up. Cutting him doesn’t save the team money. In theory, they could stash him on the practice squad, right? And if a team try’s to claim him, they’d have to pick up his contract? I think this has more to do with the money owed than the compensation…. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y2k8 Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 If my grandparents were around and saw Woody speak, they would refer to him as being "slow". You never hear that anymore, but that really is the most accurate description. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 43 minutes ago, Maynard13 said: White Castle bro. White castle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetpain Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 This is Woody...shoving it up Zack and his familys behind for his refusal to want to play in those last games but still collect his pay. Its all talk though, Zack will be gone shortly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE BARON Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 For me, having Wilson on the roster as a #3 or inactive practice squad guy is not a problem. The only one that would really suffer is Wilson. He needs the change of landscape much more than any of the fans. From where I am sitting, this looks like a poorly thought out move to get more for Zach than a set of steak knives. I'm sure they can get a #7 for him, but who would pick up the money ??? I bet that's the hold-up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 36 minutes ago, mrcoops said: A pretty desperate - and transparent - attempt to rebuild whatever little trade value Zach Wilson ever had. He will not be on the roster when the season starts - I'd personally bet all of you guys' mortgages on that. Exactly my thoughts. This coupled with the report that the Jets have turned down multiple offers for Zach? C’mon, it’s about as transparent as it could possibly get. No sense in waiting around for us to cut him, because we’re not gonna do that <wink-wink><nudge-nudge> also you better get your offers up because the ones we haven’t gotten yet suck! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 59 minutes ago, Matt39 said: I honestly don’t think how anyone could walk away from these latest comments and not believe Zach’s family has influence here. I have never seen anything like this. I can’t honestly figure how anyone could come to this conclusion. You think a players family could talk an owner into keeping a terrible player just because it fits your narrative? The one that you’ve turned every thread into. You know why you’ve never seen anything like this before? Because it would never happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 25 Author Share Posted March 25 3 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: I can’t honestly figure how anyone could come to this conclusion. You think a players family could talk an owner into keeping a terrible player just because it fits your narrative? The one that you’ve turned every thread into. You know why you’ve never seen anything like this before? Because it would never happen. It’s happening as we speak. The owner just said he’s coming back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 1 minute ago, Matt39 said: It’s happening as we speak. The owner just said he’s coming back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicketybam Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 19 minutes ago, extmenace said: I mean, If you think about, the jets wanted Zach to take a year off and learn from Rodgers with no pressure to play. That never happened. The team has no developmental qb on the roster…if they release him, the jets are on the hook for the money anyways. They have tyrod as the true back up. Cutting him doesn’t save the team money. In theory, they could stash him on the practice squad, right? And if a team try’s to claim him, they’d have to pick up his contract? I think this has more to do with the money owed than the compensation…. From what I've been told the practice squad is not an option. The wheels have been set in motion. Wilson 3.0 coming this fall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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