Gangrene Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Doug Marrone and Jets: Buffalo media trashes him on his way out of town Dom Cosentino on January 01, 2015 at 11:57 AM, updated January 01, 2015 at 12:03 PM By opting out of staying with the Bills, Doug Marrone seemingly went from mediocre head coach to being fitted for a bust in Canton. And the Jets instantly went from a team pursuing him to the "favorites" to land him, according to ESPN's Adam Schefter. It's almost as if Bill Walsh has just fallen into the Jets' laps. But Marrone's short time in Buffalo was significantly flawed, according to several reporters there who covered him daily. Marrone has been getting plenty of other laurels from the national media. Those plaudits seem to spring from his having led the Bills to a winning record—their first in 10 years—while navigating the uncertainty of a changing ownership situation, and also for winning a game after being displaced by a snowstorm, never mind that the Bills beat the crummy Jets that week. Marrone is certainly a reasonable option. But he went 15-17 in two seasons with the Bills. He failed to make the playoffs, and he drafted a bust of a quarterback in E.J. Manuel despite being an offensive-minded coach. So why all the adulation? The Jets do still have several other candidates in mind, and they're still scheduled to interview the Seahawks' Dan Quinn and Tom Cable this weekend in Seattle. Have doubts about Marrone and the Jets? Here, then, are some reports out of Buffalo to reinforce those doubts: Jay Skurski, the Buffalo News: Prior to Marrone being hired, team president Russ Brandon used words like "forward thinking, progressive and attacking" in describing what the team was looking for in its new coach. None of those adjectives fit Marrone's style. His consistent reluctance to show any aggression on fourth-down plays became one of the biggest criticisms of his tenure. Jay Skurski, the Buffalo News: As a whole, the offense regressed in two seasons, from 19th overall in 2013 to 26th this past season. Much of that regression can be traced to issues at quarterback, which doesn't fall entirely on Marrone. But it's worth noting he was involved in the decision-making process to select EJ Manuel in the first round of the '13 draft - a bust to this point. The offensive struggles, however, weren't limited to the quarterback. The team's offensive line regressed badly in 2014. Jay Skurski, the Buffalo News: Marrone would generally refuse to provide any specifics on player injuries. He would vacillate between offering one-sentence responses or verbose soliloquies in which he mastered the art of saying a lot without saying anything at all when addressing the media. That tense relationship with reporters didn't have any on-field impact, but it also turned off a segment of the fan base. Tim Graham of the Buffalo News: A source close to Marrone also noted the coach was bothered deeply by media criticism, especially after the Bills defeated the heavily favored Green Bay Packers on Dec. 14 in Ralph Wilson Stadium. And more from the Twitters: Really, though: If Marrone couldn't handle media scrutiny and fan criticism in Buffalo, he ought to be just fine in a backwater market like New York City, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 here we go again, the HC is drafting people, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 these young beat reporters seem to be the most thin skinned pukes on the planet. this appears to be a bunch of reporters trashing on a coach on his way out there door because he didnt give them a time of day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 By opting out of staying with the Bills, Doug Marrone seemingly went from mediocre head coach to being fitted for a bust in Canton. And the Jets instantly went from a team pursuing him to the "favorites" to land him, according to ESPN's Adam Schefter. It's almost as if Bill Walsh has just fallen into the Jets' laps. Based on what? Who, exactly, is saying anything resembling this? Why is our press corps incapable of writing a single article without resorting to snark and strawmen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen X Jet Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Like I care what a bunch of Buffalo reporters write. What's the qualification to be on that beat? Jr. High School newspaper editor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sg3 Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Zzzzzzzzzz Somebody shoot Cimini Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRONX DUDE Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Let's play Punch Cimini in the Dick. I'm in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 These preemptive attack pieces are really over the top. Marrone does come across as a prickly guy who isn't afraid to fight with his bosses, players, or the media. I'm not sure if that's a good or bad thing, quite frankly. He made no friends in the media, we know that. These Buffalo reporters have an axe to grind with him over that and they also have to deal with being dumped by the guy. None of these articles should be surprising or have any influence on anyone. The Jets will have to discern in his interview (if/when that is) if they feel his personality is suited for the job here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gangrene Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Whatever about the buffalo Beat Reporters, if Marrone is thin skinned explaining renewed faith in Geno Smith throwing the pigskin to the other team, it could get ugly fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Shocked the media he didn't get along with is trashing him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gangrene Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Ultimately I think it is more about the quality of players on the roster than the coach. Without the right qb and other skilled players, Rex Ryan ,Doug Marrone ... even Jim Harbaugh never wins a Super Bowl. Ryan was more entertaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 These preemptive attack pieces are really over the top. Marrone does come across as a prickly guy who isn't afraid to fight with his bosses, players, or the media. I'm not sure if that's a good or bad thing, quite frankly. He made no friends in the media, we know that. These Buffalo reporters have an axe to grind with him over that and they also have to deal with being dumped by the guy. None of these articles should be surprising or have any influence on anyone. The Jets will have to discern in his interview (if/when that is) if they feel his personality is suited for the job here. Holy Jim Harbaugh Batman.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Buffalo as a city is a shlt hole. Any writer there is second rate. Insert sarcasm icon. That said..... His putrid offense beat the living pizz out of REXs great defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgivs21 Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 I'll believe Dimitroff hires Rex when I see it. Dimitroff isnt interviewing the HC candidates... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolot Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 This was inevitably going to happen guys , as soon as the NY TMZ Jets media click got wind that the next coach was a " no nonsense " guy, they were going to act like Regina George and crew ( I stole that line from debates) ....if marrone is not the guy they will attack the next guy too..don't buy it for a second they don't have the fans best interest in mind...and for the record I'm 50-50 on marrrone , but the media going after him like this is typical Jets beat writer . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Think Orton comes out of retirement to play for Marrone here if we hired him? You could do a lot worse in the stop-gap QB department. Also, DE Jerry Hughes, ILB Brandon Spikes, S Da'Norris Searcy, OG Erik Pears and OT Chris Hairston are free agents for Buffalo. Have to think guys like that could follow him here as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Fan RI Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 There are reasons to like Marrone. Beating the Idzik Jets 3/4 isn't really one of them for me. Yes, but there are more important reasons not to hire him, or anybody else for head coach, until after a GM is hired. Are the Jets really going to make the same mistake they made with retaining Rex while hiring Idzik? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 I don't care. If I were Rex, I'd take a year off to talk about football on TV. Yep and collect 4 million from Woody as well.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC36 Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Think Orton comes out of retirement to play for Marrone here if we hired him? You could do a lot worse in the stop-gap QB department. Also, DE Jerry Hughes, ILB Brandon Spikes, S Da'Norris Searcy, OG Erik Pears and OT Chris Hairston are free agents for Buffalo. Have to think guys like that could follow him here as well. didnt you hear? He quit on his players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 The sign of a good coach is showing the ability to get the best out of the players you have. Shotty got the best out of Sanchez considering he was a rookie having had only 16 starts at USC. Paul Hackett got what he could out of Chad Pennington. Junior Hackett got what he could out of Manuel and Orton. Doug Marrone IMHO did a solid Job managing the Bills while fighting his GM and some of his players . When you're the Boss and everyone under you likes you, you are probably doing a terrible job and most likely will fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinamite Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 For the conspiracy folks... Woody did say in the presser that he would hire a HC before a GM if an opportunity suddenly presented itself and he had to act fast. Was he foreshadowing Marrone being released (inside knowledge?) Anyway, jets interview Marrone on Sunday or Monday. At least they are going through with the Seattle interviews this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 No idea..Just like Brandt & Mayock I didn't know Fisher worked for a NFL team...Hey, it's no biggie...They question is can Marrone coach..lead a team..instill discipline / accountability..put together a staff..can his staff coach / teach..get results... College coaches are in a great position to evaluate the guys they've coached. NFL teams pick their brains about players before the draft. There's a reason why Pete Carroll wanted no part of Joe McKnight. Anyway, we'll see what happens. From what I've heard, Dan Quinn is an impressive candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Holy Jim Harbaugh Batman.. Yes, Marrone is definitely the Harbaugh-lite candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 @BrianCoz: Doug Marrone is scheduled to interview with the Jets on Sunday or Monday, according to a league source. #nyj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Yes, but there are more important reasons not to hire him, or anybody else for head coach, until after a GM is hired. Are the Jets really going to make the same mistake they made with retaining Rex while hiring Idzik? If we can get a quality HC in here, it'll attract a better-caliber GM. It's not unheard of to hire the HC first when the opportunity presents itself. It certainly worked out well for the Seahawks. No matter what we have to be at least interviewing both HC's AND GM's right now simultaneously. That way whenever our GM is chosen he'll have all the information he needs on some of the top HC prospects, and can then proceed with 2nd interviews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJIII Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Jesus NO! Dude is a proven bust... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Jesus NO! Dude is a proven bust... Took a bad Syracuse program that went 10-37 prior to his arrival and turned them into a .500 team. Took a terrible Bills team and made them respectable (despite blizzards, a QB change, and friction with his front office), turning in a winning season this year (something Rex hasn't done since 2010). WhatABust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Frank Reich is expected to interview with the Jets next week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Frank Reich is expected to interview with the Jets next week Nooooooooooooooooo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJIII Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 He's a BUST for this job and never won anything of substance anywhere (Something Rex has done).. I'm looking to surpass .500 and eliminate the word respectable next year and on. #mediocrecoach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 He's a BUST for this job.. I'm looking to surpass .500 next year and on. You said he's a PROVEN bust. I.E. he's failed before. Where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 You said he's a PROVEN bust. I.E. he's failed before. Where? EVERYWHERE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 @BrianCoz: Doug Marrone also has interviews lined up with the Falcons and Bears, according to a league source #nyj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Crummy? Who says "crummy" in 2014? Oh wait, is it making a comeback in 2015?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJIII Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Again, .500 and respectable outcomes are not acceptable anywhere nor considered one who is herald. I'm looking for a coach that's a VERB rather than a NOUN.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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