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4 minutes ago, NoBowles said:

So i see, if you agree with the beater, he is good, if you don't agree with the beater he is bad, yes, 2 can play the game for sure..... I certainly don't see you posting what beaters say that is pro gase, just typical hypocritical, Im a poet and I don't even know it.

beat writers are good or bad based on their reputation, which is formed over years 

they are journalists, many of whom have masters degrees and studied for years. they are not flavors of ice cream i like chocolate you like vanilla and we are both right 

some are better than others

so no, I am not posting the pro Gase article by Manish Mehta. He's a mouthpiece. That doesn't make me a hypocrite. That dude wrote the same article about Todd Bowles in 2015, and he will write the same article about whoever gets this job in 2021. 

 

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Schein knows nothing

 

we say that about a lot of people but Schein really, genuinely knows absolutely nothing hes an awful broadcaster who has failed everywhere who keeps getting gigs like Sid Rosenberg he’s a rich boy in the good ol boys club

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3 minutes ago, bitonti said:

beat writers are good or bad based on their reputation, which is formed over years 

they are journalists, many of whom have masters degrees and studied for years. they are not flavors of ice cream i like chocolate you like vanilla and we are both right 

some are better than others

so no, I am not posting the pro Gase article by Manish Mehta. He's a mouthpiece. That doesn't make me a hypocrite. That dude wrote the same article about Todd Bowles in 2015, and he will write the same article about whoever gets this job in 2021. 

 

I get it, if a Miami beat writer matches YOUR opinion, he is good and has a good reputation formed over many, many years.

If a Miami beat writer does not match YOUR opinion, he is basically Miamis version of Manish.

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2 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

Bowles's Jets defenses were far superior to Gase Dolphin offense.

Jets D under Bowles - 4th, 11th, 25th, 25th (not saying it's good but vastly better than Gase's offense)

Dolphins offense under Gase - 24th, 25th and 31st

Easy explanation.  Bowles 1st year the Jets played maybe the weakest schedule in NFL history.  10 wins against the lowest of bottom feeders, and don't forget that the outcome of virtually all 10 was not known until near the end of each game.  As the competition/schedules got tougher his D fell off a cliff.

Having the Franchise QB is everything, or at least a QB who is competent.  Gase did not have either of those but finished at almost .500 in Miami.  Wins and losses are what counts the most and Bowles overall record is abysmal no matter what spin is tried to be placed on it.

 

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4 minutes ago, bitonti said:

beat writers are good or bad based on their reputation, which is formed over years 

they are journalists, many of whom have masters degrees and studied for years. they are not flavors of ice cream i like chocolate you like vanilla and we are both right 

some are better than others

so no, I am not posting the pro Gase article by Manish Mehta. He's a mouthpiece. That doesn't make me a hypocrite. That dude wrote the same article about Todd Bowles in 2015, and he will write the same article about whoever gets this job in 2021. 

 

Most of these clowns in sports radio don’t know more than an average poster on this site they all graduated Syracuse School of communications and were in the same frat and/or they have a wealthy family with connections 

 

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4 hours ago, slats said:

Or maybe he's just well liked and well respected around the league? 

Bingo.

Bowles obviously failed as a HC here. But he's built up a reputation as a good defensive mind over decades in the league. That doesn't happen by accident.

Some guys are just better suited as coordinators.

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1 minute ago, JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF said:

Easy explanation.  Bowles 1st year the Jets played maybe the weakest schedule in NFL history.  10 wins against the lowest of bottom feeders, and don't forget that the outcome of virtually all 10 was not known until near the end of each game.  As the competition/schedules got tougher his D fell off a cliff.

Having the Franchise QB is everything, or at least a QB who is competent.  Gase did not have either of those but finished at almost .500 in Miami.  Wins and losses are what counts the most and Bowles overall record is abysmal no matter what spin is tried to be placed on it.

 

In 2015 Bowles had a cupcake schedule and arguably the best WR duo in the nfl making him look good and he still screwed it up

 

Gase had Tannehill.  Landry is a good WR he wasn’t as good as Marshall was in 2015

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4 hours ago, Scoop24 said:

True but Gase handed him his ass 5 out of 6 matchups 

But he is not wrong in saying his defense outperformed his offensive genius status..  I remember the last game when their defense won the game, our QB had like 4 INT and still have a chance to beat them at the end.  The final score was 13-6.

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2 minutes ago, JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF said:

Easy explanation.  Bowles 1st year the Jets played maybe the weakest schedule in NFL history.  10 wins against the lowest of bottom feeders, and don't forget that the outcome of virtually all 10 was not known until near the end of each game.  As the competition/schedules got tougher his D fell off a cliff.

Having the Franchise QB is everything, or at least a QB who is competent.  Gase did not have either of those but finished at almost .500 in Miami.  Wins and losses are what counts the most and Bowles overall record is abysmal no matter what spin is tried to be placed on it.

 

Did you see Miami's strength of Schedule in Gase's 3 years? I think someone posted it before..

30th, 3rd and 30th....The year he played 3rd was his worst.

You guys can keep looking for excuses...

Honestly and I mean this sincerely, do you truly believe this is the guy, based on what we know about him, that is going to turn this team into a legitimate SuperBowl contender?

There are just sooooo many red-flags that's it's simply hard to imagine.  Honestly, go read my other posts, off of this topic...I'm usually very level headed and not a "hater" - all too often the opposite.

But when I see something this asinine I can't help but be very vocal of how ridiculous hiring this guy was...

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5 hours ago, FidelioJet said:

Not much different than calling Gase and offensive genius. His defenses a outperformed Gase’s offense.


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And I thought Miami crushed us the last several years. Bowles had a ton of first round choices on D and Gase had no QB and they still kicked our butt. I have not interest in overall stats if a divisional opponent keeps beating us down you go by head to head meetings.

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18 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

Bowles's Jets defenses were far superior to Gase Dolphin offense.

Jets D under Bowles - 4th, 11th, 25th, 25th (not saying it's good but vastly better than Gase's offense)

Dolphins offense under Gase - 24th, 25th and 31st

Bowles had one good season playing a soft schedule with Revis, Cro and Gilchrist added to the secondary before losing Snacks

 

Afterwards his defenses flat out stunk. We had the 28th weakest strength of schedule his defensive numbers actually should have been worse this season

 

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1 hour ago, Bugg said:

If you are part of  the in crowd in the NFL, you will keep getting work. Kacey Rogers this very day is rumored to be getting LB coach with Giants, and he should not be employed with  anything beyond coffee orders. 

Schein is a pathetic incel, a chronic masturbator to vile cuck porn . Shame on you for listening to him about anything. 

How Schein is still employed is one of mankind's greatest mysteries.

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2 minutes ago, Greensleeves said:

And I thought Miami crushed us the last several years. Bowles had a ton of first round choices on D and Gase had no QB and they still kicked our butt. I have not interest in overall stats if a divisional opponent keeps beating us down you go by head to head meetings.

Bowles is somehow superior yet Gase was 5-1 facing him

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2 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

Did you see Miami's strength of Schedule in Gase's 3 years? I think someone posted it before..

30th, 3rd and 30th....The year he played 3rd was his worst.

You guys can keep looking for excuses...

Honestly and I mean this sincerely, do you truly believe this is the guy, based on what we know about him, that is going to turn this team into a legitimate SuperBowl contender?

There are just sooooo many red-flags that's it's simply hard to imagine.  Honestly, go read my other posts, off of this topic...I'm usually very level headed and not a "hater" - all too often the opposite.

But when I see something this asinine I can't help but be very vocal of how ridiculous hiring this guy was...

Why should I listen to you instead of Manning, Jefferies, NFL people that actually worked with him? You and I have zero clue on how he will be now that he has a QB. Bellicheat sucked without a QB, think about that for a second.

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4 minutes ago, Greensleeves said:

Why should I listen to you instead of Manning, Jefferies, NFL people that actually worked with him? You and I have zero clue on how he will be now that he has a QB. Bellicheat sucked without a QB, think about that for a second.

because he's a fan (like you and me) and Manning, Jeffries and "NFL People" don't actually care if the Jets win or lose 

we are the ones who care. everyone else gets paid

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2 hours ago, bitonti said:

I don't buy this "nobody knows anything" line of thinking. Jets fans knew Warren Sapp should be be the pick. We didn't need to see Kyle Brady entire career pan out before making an offer accurate prediction

 


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Buy? Too cheap Woodrow. 

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4 hours ago, Larz said:

You guys really couldn't tell the difference between the Arizona defense and the kacy rodgers defense?

I told you guys he would get hired as a DC

 

Case study earlier this year when Kacy got sick. Our defense was considerably better with Bowles calling the plays on D. As soon as he handed that back to Kacy we lost six or seven in a row. 

Todd's inability to staff properly was his biggest downfall.

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5 hours ago, Scoop24 said:

True but Gase handed him his ass 5 out of 6 matchups 

In Bowles defense he could not play himself 2x a yr or the Jets record would have been better :)

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46 minutes ago, JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF said:

I'd like to see him just put up a good Defense, forget any awards, next year in Tampa.

I'd be surprised if he does.  The AZ D he coached consisted of virtually ALL All-Pros.

You saw, 4 years running, a Jet D incredibly poor in even the most basic fundamentals even though a heavy amount of assets were invested almost exclusively on Bowles D.  It wasn't just 1 year and 3 good ones.  They all were bad.  So here is a simple question, how can the media consistently laud this guy as "brilliant", "great coordinator"?

I personally dont give 2 sh*ts about what Todd Bowles does in Tampa.  He was a better coordinator than Head Coach, happens all the time.  Most teams with talent are better than teams without. 

I mean, who is Adam Shein and why should anyone care what he thinks is "brilliant"?  These types of words get thrown around undeservingly all the time by unqualified bozo's..who cares?  He's not our problem anymore.

 

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4 hours ago, nyjunc said:

And [Schottenheimer] just helped Russell Wilson have the best season of his career.  

Oh Puh-leeeze.  Wilson had been a top NFL QB for seven years before Schottenheimer ever got his hands on him.  And you're saying Wilson's quality is any of Schotty's doing?  🤣

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2 hours ago, JiF said:

 

I mean, who is Adam Shein and why should anyone care what he thinks is "brilliant"?  These types of words get thrown around undeservingly all the time by unqualified bozo's..who cares?  He's not our problem anymore.

 

I think you are brilliant, bozo

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3 hours ago, Jet_Engine1 said:

I dont care what gender Beth Mowins identifies as, she is terrible. But so are Jason Whitten, Joe Tessitore and a bunch of others.

 

But Mowins is awful.

Tessitore is worse! Even worse than Nantz which I didn't think was possible.

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2 hours ago, FidelioJet said:

Did you see Miami's strength of Schedule in Gase's 3 years? I think someone posted it before..

30th, 3rd and 30th....The year he played 3rd was his worst.

You guys can keep looking for excuses...

Honestly and I mean this sincerely, do you truly believe this is the guy, based on what we know about him, that is going to turn this team into a legitimate SuperBowl contender?

There are just sooooo many red-flags that's it's simply hard to imagine.  Honestly, go read my other posts, off of this topic...I'm usually very level headed and not a "hater" - all too often the opposite.

But when I see something this asinine I can't help but be very vocal of how ridiculous hiring this guy was...

Good points you make with legitimate questions.

All I can say is just hope for the best.  I preferred hiring McCarthy.

What we do know is at worst he won’t be as bad as Bowles, at best I think the sky is the limit but that’s totally tied into Darnold.

One thing I know for sure is that I know the media is going to try to push his buttons and hope for a blow up.  At least there should be accountability in lots of places where there was none.  The media really never held Bowles feet to the fire, most glaringly as to why he played a C who could not snap a ball cleanly to the rookie Franchise QB, FOR 9 GAMES haha, and how that risked injury.

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