RevisIsland610 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 53 minutes ago, LockeJET said: The main thing people are overlooking here is that we are a terrible team with or without Sam. We lack in the most important positions outside of QB. LT, CB's, Edge rushers, WR 1 and the rest of the O-line. This team would've been 0-3 even if Sam never got sick. And If Sam does return against the Eagles, we're still headed for 0-7. We aren't beating the Eagles, Cowboys, Patriots or Jags. This is a deeply flawed team and it needs to be broken down again. I'd make any trades we can to acquire more draft picks. We aren't going anywhere until we rebuild the Oline. Sadly, we need 5 new lineman. Thanks for the Monday morning pick me up. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 2 hours ago, nico002 said: must mean Sam is still out **** It means the Eagles are playing a team that has scored one offensive touchdown in three games. Nobody knows about Darnold's status until his test results come back later today. Now, the line is a bit high IF Darnold, Mosley, and QW are all playing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandy Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 If Darnold is still out this is fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LockeJET Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 18 minutes ago, docdhc said: I don't agree with this. The Jets were handling Buffalo pretty well until Mosely went out and Sam was already affected by the Mono. Buffalo gave the Pats all they could handle this week. With Mosely back, Sam at full strength and our suspended players like Herndon and Copeland back we can be very competitive, especially when we get past Dallas and New England again. If your inside LB goes down and it costs you the game, then there is something seriously wrong with the defense. Sam was good enough to play. The offense socred 8 points and was basically terrible all day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 37 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: Not sure why you are so adament he is not playing. It was announced a week or 2 ago that this is the game he is targeting to return. They cut david fales which leaves only falk as qb. All signs are pointing to him playing. They signed Mike White after they cut Fales. I know he doesn't quite have the resume of Fales, but he should do for now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post peebag Posted September 30, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 30, 2019 Who ever is playing qb for the Jets this upcoming game is in danger of having their spleen injured. 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnknownJetFan Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 hour ago, LockeJET said: The main thing people are overlooking here is that we are a terrible team with or without Sam. We lack in the most important positions outside of QB. LT, CB's, Edge rushers, WR 1 and the rest of the O-line. This team would've been 0-3 even if Sam never got sick. And If Sam does return against the Eagles, we're still headed for 0-7. We aren't beating the Eagles, Cowboys, Patriots or Jags. This is a deeply flawed team and it needs to be broken down again. I'd make any trades we can to acquire more draft picks. We aren't going anywhere until we rebuild the Oline. Sadly, we need 5 new lineman. Agree and disagree. Sam never gets sick and we hang on and beat the Bills and maybe even beat the Browns. We are a different team with him in there. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMan77 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 38 minutes ago, sec101row23 said: I don’t think so, I think it tells you that the Jets problems are many, and even with Sam this isn’t a good team. Plus, it’s in Philly and the Jets have never beaten the Eagles....ever. True true... Still if Sam does play I might take that bet... 14 is still a lot. I mean if nothing else that's close to back-door cover territory. Also when I say "take that bet", I generally mean I'll be betting like $10, hah. So it's not like I'm taking a giant leap of confidence into them or anything. Just at least feels somewhat plausible that they can keep it within 2 TDs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FidelioJet Posted September 30, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 30, 2019 Without Sam 14 is a solid line. With Sam the Jets win. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMan77 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 21 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: Without Sam 14 is a solid line. With Sam the Jets win. Sam, Quinnen, Mosley, Herndon... Those are a pretty solid 4 to (hopefully) get back. Not sure if it's enough to win but it definitely changes the dynamic of the team. 14 feels like a lot of points... Doesn't help the offensive line and CB issues directly... But they'll help. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 54 minutes ago, LockeJET said: If your inside LB goes down and it costs you the game, then there is something seriously wrong with the defense. Sam was good enough to play. The offense socred 8 points and was basically terrible all day. We also lost Avery Williamson preseason & the reason he was playing because he was the emergency signal caller for Mosely. So we had a 5th round rookie LB in there who wasn't ready. We even got thin where we were the strongest, just a terrible year so far for bad luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljr Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Whether the spread is 10, 14, or 21 ... wouldn’t Sam vs a 3rd string QB swing the line at least a FG? Still seems crazy to me that vegas is taking those bets without knowing who our QB will be It’s been a long*$$ time since I was into betting on games ... guess there have been sone changes since then Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIJetsFan Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 3 hours ago, tfine said: He’s getting a test today Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Seems like Jets fans get tested every day 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 2 hours ago, IndianaJet said: We don't even get the benefit of the bye week in playing a team that played yesterday. Of course it's scheduled so that the team we play after the bye had the Thursday night game with extra rest to prepare for us. I know it is a little tin foil hat of me but man does it seem that the best teams also get super favorable scheduling and play almost all their off-Sunday games at home. Like it or not, the NFL is subtly to not so subtly rigged for the elite teams in both scheduling and especially refereeing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMan77 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 10 minutes ago, johnnysd said: I know it is a little tin foil hat of me but man does it seem that the best teams also get super favorable scheduling and play almost all their off-Sunday games at home. Like it or not, the NFL is subtly to not so subtly rigged for the elite teams in both scheduling and especially refereeing. It's also just an issue that there are SO many bad and mediocre/below average teams. You have maybe a top 1-3 teams... Then like 25 interchangeable teams in the middle that are just average or below average at best, then then the bottom 3,4,5. I mean we could discuss the actual numbers and who those teams are and switch a few categories... But the point is there's a huge group of teams in the middle with glaring enough weaknesses that they'll never beat one of the top teams... They still might finish the season with 7.8.9 wins because they each play all those other middling teams, but they're not good enough to take on a favorite. It's funny, there IS parity in the NFL... But it's all in the middle. There are a lot of 'meh' teams, but not a lot of contenders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 3 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said: Cutting fales tells u the jets are 100% sure darnold is playing. That's what I thought as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 2 hours ago, JetFaninMI said: Sam is not going to be able to play in this game. He will not be ready. The guys who think he will are probably the same guys who thought the Jets were a playoff team. Okay so there is absolutely NO REASON to attack people for being a fan and rooting for the team. That said a lot of people believe he is going to play because that is what Darnold and Gase have both said. They might be off by a week, who knows. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Maxman said: That's what I thought as well. I don't think so. They picked up Vyncent Smith with Fales spot. IMO. They were hoping he would be ready but could promote White to active roster if Darnold can't go. I think this move was more about they didn't think much of Fales and have had now 2 weeks to get White up to speed on the offense. I think the signing of Smith shows that they don't think DT is going to be back for a few more weeks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 2 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said: They signed Mike White after they cut Fales. I know he doesn't quite have the resume of Fales, but he should do for now. Well they could change this but they signed him to the practice squad, not the active roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 34 minutes ago, Maxman said: Well they could change this but they signed him to the practice squad, not the active roster. I don't think the Jets know whether he's playing or not yet. He'll probably be a question mark until later in the week. If he can't play, White will get signed to the active roster (assuming he's not a schmuck). Even if Darnolds spleen size has reduced to what they need it to be, they'll need to monitor his health throughout the week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 4 hours ago, Skeet Ulrich said: If I'm the Jets, why even rush him back with the sensitivity of his spleen issue and the horrible state of this OL? At least give him till the Dallas game. If his spleen is normal, if his symptoms are done, he wouldn’t be rushed back OL is what it is, hopefully the week off helped but you want to sit him out all year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmat321 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Wouldn't be surprised if it's 17 by the end of the week. Still like the Eagles even if it goes that high. Think the O/U is like 44 or 45, can see the Eagles blowing thru as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 5 hours ago, Skeet Ulrich said: Seems reasonable. The team's scored 1 frigging offensive touchdown this year and it doesn't sound like Darnold is a lock to play in Philly Bingo. The Eagles just beat the undefeated Packers in Lambeau and will have 10 days off between games. If Luke Falk goes into Philly and keeps the Jets within 4 Touchdowns he deserves an award. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Once Darnold and Mosley are officially ruled out, I would personally make the line 20(ish) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Jets' C.J. Mosley: Availability For Week 5 Uncertain Mosely (groin) is not expected to practice Wednesday, Rich Cimini of ESPN.com reports. Mosley is coming off the Jets' bye week, but he doesn't yet appear to have made substantial progress in his recovery from a groin injury suffered during the season opener. If the stud linebacker is indeed unable to practice Wednesday, he'll likely be trending towards sitting out Week 5 versus Philadelphia. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeet Ulrich Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Jet Nut said: If his spleen is normal, if his symptoms are done, he wouldn’t be rushed back OL is what it is, hopefully the week off helped but you want to sit him out all year? He just got cleared for non-contact today. I think it's pretty skeptical he'll be ready for a game on Sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 hour ago, playtowinthegame said: Jets' C.J. Mosley: Availability For Week 5 Uncertain Mosely (groin) is not expected to practice Wednesday, Rich Cimini of ESPN.com reports. Mosley is coming off the Jets' bye week, but he doesn't yet appear to have made substantial progress in his recovery from a groin injury suffered during the season opener. If the stud linebacker is indeed unable to practice Wednesday, he'll likely be trending towards sitting out Week 5 versus Philadelphia. With Darnold and Mosely playing I'd give the Jets a 35% chance to win. With only one of them playing I'd drop it to 15%. With neither playing....it's like 0%. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Skeet Ulrich said: He just got cleared for non-contact today. I think it's pretty skeptical he'll be ready for a game on Sunday. Agreed. To me it sounds like, its not bad, he can throw but no hits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 7 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Agreed. To me it sounds like, its not bad, he can throw but no hits. It probably means NE @ home is a better possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 If Sam plays: Jets 24 Eagles 17. If Falk plays: Eagles 30 Jets 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icer Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Sounds like he's not playing, so that line is more than fair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 7 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said: Not sure why you are so adament he is not playing. It was announced a week or 2 ago that this is the game he is targeting to return. They cut david fales which leaves only falk as qb. All signs are pointing to him playing. I don't feel he should play. Too much risk for too little reward. Even if He played He would still not be 100%. His timing is off and his conditioning isn't up to game level. A recipe for disaster IMO. A greater injury could occur and its simply not worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 5 hours ago, Maxman said: Okay so there is absolutely NO REASON to attack people for being a fan and rooting for the team. That said a lot of people believe he is going to play because that is what Darnold and Gase have both said. They might be off by a week, who knows. Max I'm not attacking anyone. I just feel it was unrealistic for guys to think that this was a playoff team. I also feel its unrealistic to think its wise to start a 20 something franchise QB coming off of a case of Mono with less than 1 week of conditioning and reps under his belt. Not a good idea IMO. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Should be pointed out that Quinnen Williams, Leonard Williams, Jamal Adams, and Marcus Maye are perfectly healthy and the team is still two-TD underdogs. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 10 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Should be pointed out that Quinnen Williams, Leonard Williams, Jamal Adams, and Marcus Maye are perfectly healthy and the team is still two-TD underdogs. We have 1 TD in 3 games. Why wouldn’t we be extreme underdogs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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