Do the Jets regret not having Mike McCarthy as HC?

[Charlie Brown]

This article shows precisey why IMO the Jets made a mistake in NOT hiring Mike McCarthy...

Now I know that Gase got us JD so maybe that made it worth it but all things considered I still feel McCarthy was wrongly tarred by his having to work with the talented but nutty Aaron Rogers and it seems that the truth is finally coming out!

 

                                                                            Packers Have Had Enough of Aaron Rogers

When general manager Brian Gutekunst and coach Matt LaFleur traded up to draft quarterback Jordan Love in the first round of the NFL Draft, they sent a message to 36-year-old Aaron Rodgers that his playing days in Green Bay were probably limited.

But one Packers beat writer, who has covered the team for almost four decades, has an eyebrow-raising theory that something perhaps more malicious is brewing behind the scenes.

“Public niceties aside, my sense is LaFleur, fresh from a terrific 13-3 baptismal season, simply had enough of [Aaron] Rodgers’ act and wanted to change the narrative,” Bob McGinn of The Athletic wrote in an analysis of the team’s draft on Tuesday. “With a first-round talent on the roster, the Packers would gain leverage with their imperial quarterback and his passive-aggressive style.”Packers

The article implies that Gutekunst and LaFleur intend to show their eight-time Pro Bowl quarterback that he isn’t untouchable and that having competition on the roster would temper any outbursts from Rodgers.

According to the article, Rodgers’ “passive-aggressive style” has caused issues in the past and was likely a contributing factor to Mike McCarthy’s firing a year ago.

https://nypost.com/2020/04/28/packers-have-had-enough-of-aaron-rodgers-act/

[Jets723]

McCarthy was my first choice.  No secret I was not a fan of the Gase hiring. However just hoping for the best now.  

[nico002]

McCarthy would have resigned by week 7 if he had been given the hand Gase dealt with last year. Oh yea, and Mac would still be here.

[T0mShane]

The Packers went 13-3 this year and were in the NFC Championship Game.

[kdels62]

Why does this article make me want Mike McCarthy? The Packers got better when he left.

[fullblast]

If Joe Douglas proves to be a legit GM then everything that transpired was worth it.

[Thai Jet]

12 minutes ago, Jets723 said:

McCarthy was my first choice.  No secret I was not a fan of the Gase hiring. However just hoping for the best now.  

Absolutely agree. I just pray everything works out for the best. Unbelievable how many negative Nancys here wanted Gases's hide right off the bat. Give the guy a chance if he's not right for the Jets ...... THEN we can hang him.

[Jets723]

3 minutes ago, Thai Jet said:

Absolutely agree. I just pray everything works out for the best. Unbelievable how many negative Nancys here wanted Gases's hide right off the bat. Give the guy a chance if he's not right for the Jets ...... THEN we can hang him.

There will always be some negativity around here I’ve just accepted that.  

[peebag]

to get 7 wins(should have been 8) from what occurred during the season to this team was pretty remarkable and that's coming from someone who was not a fan of the hire before the start of the '19 season.

[ljr]

I def wanted McCarthy instead of Gase

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unlikely we have JD without Gase though ... which appears to a giant win for us at the moment

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Just because Gase may be bad and Rodgers is a d*ck doesn't mean McCarthy is good yet.  We still have to wait to see how that narrative plays out

[jetstream23]

Gase had a crap roster to deal with and a QB who got Mono to start the season.  But, he was smart enough to get Maccagnan ousted and a new GM put in place.  The new GM then gets rave reviews for signing 4 Offensive lineman, using the #11 pick on another and drafting/signing multiple more players at WR and RB.  Fans now "see the light" and are raving about Joe Douglas when in fact Douglas is just proving that Gase had Zero to work with last season.

If you approve of the job Douglas has done this offseason in terms of prioritizing the offense then you agree that the offensive roster was complete sh*t.  It's a small miracle that this team went 6-2 over its final 8 games!

I have zero regrets about not hiring Mike McCarthy.  80% of his offensive playbook is from 2006.

[slats]

21 minutes ago, ljr said:

Just because Gase may be bad and Rodgers is a d*ck doesn't mean McCarthy is good yet. 

He'll probably look a lot better on a loaded Cowboys' team than he would've looked here last year. 

[pdxgreen]

No.  I do not regret losing out on Mike McCarthy because otherwise we wouldn't have JD.

[Ex-Rex]

57 minutes ago, Jets723 said:

McCarthy was my first choice.  No secret I was not a fan of the Gase hiring. However just hoping for the best now.  

Me too.

[JoePNYJ1]

McCarthy has an even more vanilla offense than Gase does.  The guy we should have never passed on was Matt Rhule.  The Johnsons and Mac did not allow him to pick his coaches...what a bunch of goobers.

[FidelioJet]

55 minutes ago, kdels62 said:

Why does this article make me want Mike McCarthy? The Packers got better when he left.

And The Eagles won the Super Bowl when Andy Reid left. 

What does that mean?  Sometimes it’s just time, after long periods of time a message can get lost..people get burnt out one place.  It happens everyone - people that are great at their jobs, get tired there and go somewhere else and have success.

McCarthy was clearly the right hire...it really is a shame.

[Bowles Movement]

24 minutes ago, slats said:

He'll probably look a lot better on a loaded Cowboys' team than he would've looked here last year. 

If that offense isnt top 3 in league , that in itself would be damning.   

[Embrace the Suck]

So the coach got run out of town by the star player. The next coach came in went 13-3 and has taken steps to put said star player in his place. Why do I regret not getting Mike M?

[Larz]

This is an opinion about another opinion lol

darnold hit it off with gase. 
 

pretty simple 

[docdhc]

12 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

And The Eagles won the Super Bowl when Andy Reid left. 

What does that mean?  Sometimes it’s just time, after long periods of time a message can get lost..people get burnt out one place.  It happens everyone - people that are great at their jobs, get tired there and go somewhere else and have success.

McCarthy was clearly the right hire...it really is a shame.

He hasn’t coached a game with the cowboys yet. I bet it’s gonna be a train wreck, not a shame. 

[static14]

I love these time machine questions. Can we go back more than once, or just the one time? Because if it’s once the answer will always be baby hitler. 

McCarthy can rubber band a trash bag full of farts around his head for all I care.  

[Charlie Brown]

23 minutes ago, JoePNYJ1 said:

McCarthy has an even more vanilla offense than Gase does.  The guy we should have never passed on was Matt Rhule.  The Johnsons and Mac did not allow him to pick his coaches...what a bunch of goobers.

At this point I am fine with Gase, since he is here, and like most hope for the best.

In truth, I think Gase is going to have very very GOOD season as a play caller!

The question is did Roger's attitude help dictate what McCarthy ran?

 

[JoJoTownsell1]

21 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

And The Eagles won the Super Bowl when Andy Reid left. 

What does that mean?  Sometimes it’s just time, after long periods of time a message can get lost..people get burnt out one place.  It happens everyone - people that are great at their jobs, get tired there and go somewhere else and have success.

McCarthy was clearly the right hire...it really is a shame.

Clearly? You think the Packers regret forging him also?

[peekskill68]

5 minutes ago, Charlie Brown said:

At this point I am fine with Gase, since he is here, and like most hope for the best.

In truth, I think Gase is going to have very very GOOD season as a play caller!

The question is did Roger's attitude help dictate what McCarthy ran?

 

I kinda disagree with this.  Gase's biggest strength IMO was he kept that locker room together with a gazillion injuries + the Osemele/Enunwa distractions.  GW helped for sure, but Gase had them playing hard thru a 1-7 start.  His greatest weakness IMO was his play calling.  He gets nothing out of Loggains that I can detect and he struggles with mid-game adjustments.  His success in Denver seems largely to be based on having a QB smart enough to adjust and call plays at the line. With another year of experience Sam needs to stop seeing ghosts and start developing better audible skills...

[Beerfish]

I was not totally in the McCarthy rah rah brigade (still wanted rhule).  But I wanted him far more than Adam Gase.

[Charlie Brown]

6 minutes ago, peekskill68 said:

I kinda disagree with this.  Gase's biggest strength IMO was he kept that locker room together with a gazillion injuries + the Osemele/Enunwa distractions.  GW helped for sure, but Gase had them playing hard thru a 1-7 start.  His greatest weakness IMO was his play calling.  He gets nothing out of Loggains that I can detect and he struggles with mid-game adjustments.  His success in Denver seems largely to be based on having a QB smart enough to adjust and call plays at the line. With another year of experience Sam needs to stop seeing ghosts and start developing better audible skills...

Well that is my point in some ways too..........

I think Gase is a baby in some ways and he worries about things he shouldn't.  I am truly hoping that he wont do with JD now in control and that this will free Gase up to be a more focused play caller, at least that is my hope for the season.

[T0mShane]

41 minutes ago, Bowles Movement said:

If that offense isnt top 3 in league , that in itself would be damning.   

They were first overall this year with Jason Garrett

[dbatesman]

People like Pac who spent 48 hours pre-gloating that Maccagnan had recruited a Super Bowl winning coach probably regret it

[Untouchable]

1 hour ago, jetstream23 said:

Gase had a crap roster to deal with and a QB who got Mono to start the season.  But, he was smart enough to get Maccagnan ousted and a new GM put in place.  The new GM then gets rave reviews for signing 4 Offensive lineman, using the #11 pick on another and drafting/signing multiple more players at WR and RB.  Fans now "see the light" and are raving about Joe Douglas when in fact Douglas is just proving that Gase had Zero to work with last season.

If you approve of the job Douglas has done this offseason in terms of prioritizing the offense then you agree that the offensive roster was complete sh*t.  It's a small miracle that this team went 6-2 over its final 8 games!

I have zero regrets about not hiring Mike McCarthy.  80% of his offensive playbook is from 1986.

Good post, but fixed for accuracy at the end.

The guy literally still runs many of the concepts that Bill Walsh was employing 35 years ago.

[JerseyJetFan2880]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2828649-what-happened-in-green-bay

 

Based on these two sources alone, it's clear McCarthy is an egomaniac who cares more about his image than actually getting the job done. 

[T0mShane]

22 minutes ago, dbatesman said:

People like Pac who spent 48 hours pre-gloating that Maccagnan had recruited a Super Bowl winning coach probably regret it

@Pac is waiting for Highlights Magazine to release their scathing review of Douglas’ draft before he comments.

[kdels62]

1 hour ago, FidelioJet said:

And The Eagles won the Super Bowl when Andy Reid left. 

What does that mean?  Sometimes it’s just time, after long periods of time a message can get lost..people get burnt out one place.  It happens everyone - people that are great at their jobs, get tired there and go somewhere else and have success.

McCarthy was clearly the right hire...it really is a shame.

Doug Pederson is a top coach in the league. And immediately following Reid leaving the Eagles the team began to decline until Pederson came in and pulled the team out of mediocrity. The thing about Pederson and Reid that’s different than McCarthy is that no one accused them of lacking offensive innovation.

[Pac]

28 minutes ago, dbatesman said:

People like Pac who spent 48 hours pre-gloating that Maccagnan had recruited a Super Bowl winning coach probably regret it

People like Pac correctly stated that McCarthy was pining for this job while you ingrates confidently declared there's no way he'd want to work with Mac.

 

[BROOKLYN JET]

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[TheNuuFaaolaExperience]

Aaron Rodgers is the reason why McCarthy was successful and why LaFleur had a 13-3 season. McCarthy was 3-8-1 without Rodgers. When I see two full seasons of McCarthy in Dallas, I'll decide if passing on him was a mistake. In comparison, Belichick was 15-5 without Brady.