MadMikeyG Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 How about the never seen in the NFL. 3 way deal. Dallas gets Adams, Jets get Ngakuoe, Jax gets Dallas #1 pick. You fill in any extra pieces to balance it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said: I have zero interest in Ngakoue. Trade Adams and a mid-low round pick to the Ravens for Judon and a 1st. Seriously doubt Ravens would do it. They may be interested, but not for Judon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choon328 Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 How about Gallup and Vanderesch for Adams? It's a lot but if they really want him that bad let's make them pay out the ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zachtomims47 Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 3 first round picks. Get it done tanny 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 just get him out of here 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 I think this is a perfect opportunity to steal the starting caliber wide receiver that we before the season starts. I prefer any deal that includes a Gallup, CeeDee Lamb, JuJu Smith, Aj Green. Just come away with a WR and a high round pick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 I love Jamal and have supported him here constantly, ask TOm Shane. That being said ....he has to go. We certainly don't need this distraction going on all year, and it certainly will. That being said teams should not expect a discount. It's not a garage sale. If they don't agree to JD's price then we just keep him here. Adams is NOT in control and the sooner he realizes it the better. In JD we trust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets723 Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 17 minutes ago, choon328 said: Even if a team trades for him he's controllable for 3 years at around $25 million. Giving up a 1st for 3 years of control at half his actual value is a good deal for a team interested in him. The extension does not have to be part of the deal bc Jamal has no leverage except to sit out and get fined and miss paychecks. The holdout threat has been lessened now bc fines are now mandatory and teams can't just erase them like they used to. Its $40,000 per day during training camp and about $1.5 million in fines if he holds out all training camp. No player is stupid enough to do that especially a player only scheduled to make $825,000 this year in actual cash. Agreed. No way Jamal sits. Even though he doesn’t care about the team or winning the one thing he does care about more than anything is money lol. He really has zero leverage. Douglas isn’t gonna trade him for scraps. He has a set price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 36 minutes ago, EM31 said: Can anyone say that he is not a team cancer at this point? He’s not. His teammates probably agree with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 This is all going to go absolutely nowhere. I don't really know what Jamal is thinking here.... this reeks of some really, really bad 'guidance' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets723 Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, Sonny Werblin said: He’s not. His teammates probably agree with him. Doubtful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: I think this is a perfect opportunity to steal the starting caliber wide receiver that we before the season starts. I prefer any deal that includes a Gallup, CeeDee Lamb, JuJu Smith, Aj Green. Just come away with a WR and a high round pick. Throw in the starting SS from the acquiring team and i think you’ll hit on JDs price: A starting WR, SS, plus draft pick projected between mid First to high third round depending on how good the players involved are. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 41 minutes ago, predator_05 said: If the first isn't on the board, how about a 2nd? Is this getting ripped off? Say we're dealing with miami: 2nd + 3rd + Devante Parker Those are likely to be high 2nd and 3rds. I honestly think we HAVE to get a 1st in the deal . I CAN'T see us trading him to Miami , or any other division rival, and having to face and listen to him twice a year. Too bad we can't deal him to the CFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtMart Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 43 minutes ago, predator_05 said: If the first isn't on the board, how about a 2nd? Is this getting ripped off? Say we're dealing with miami: 2nd + 3rd + Devante Parker Those are likely to be high 2nd and 3rds. Miami has to be a first. I’m not a fan of Devante. I feel 2019 was aberration. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jets723 said: Doubtful Find one current teammate that has said anything negative about his request for a new contract. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 Ngakoue 2nd and a 5th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
predator_05 Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 38 minutes ago, KRL said: From BAL: Judon, 2021 #2, 2022 #4 From JAX: Ngakuoe, 2021 #3, 2022 #5 From DAL: Gallup, 2021 #1, 2022 #3 First 2 are complete rip-offs. 2021 2nd is almost a 3rd!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 18 minutes ago, Jets723 said: Honestly we don’t even know if Dallas was willing to trade that much for him I got the feeling that Dallas kinda cooled on him prior to the draft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets723 Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Thai Jet said: I got the feeling that Dallas kinda cooled on him prior to the draft. I wouldn’t doubt it. Plus they know they would need to do a lot of maneuvering to pay him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
predator_05 Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 47 minutes ago, derp said: I’d be thrilled with two one’s, happy with a one and a two, and fine but a little disappointed with a one and a three...so a one and a three sounds right. Value of players is tough to pinpoint but I have to imagine them eating into the second pick. Need a one back. It really depends on how badly the club wants him gone. If they can live with him, then holding out for a 1st makes sense. But i think we're past that point. Aren't we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets723 Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 10 minutes ago, BigRy56 said: This is all going to go absolutely nowhere. I don't really know what Jamal is thinking here.... this reeks of some really, really bad 'guidance' Bad guidance for sure but I think this is just the way he is. As a rookie he was t that bad but since they had been a nightmare 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 8 minutes ago, Sonny Werblin said: Throw in the starting SS from the acquiring team and i think you’ll hit on JDs price: A starting WR, SS, plus draft pick projected between mid First to high third round depending on how good the players involved are. Really can move Maye back to SS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
predator_05 Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, Thai Jet said: I got the feeling that Dallas kinda cooled on him prior to the draft. Its not that. They were serious. But Jets were asking for too much. The gallup deal is pie in the sky. I don't think dallas wants to deal gallup, if they did, it would have already happened. McCarthy likes to play 3 WR, so realistically, gallup is going nowhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets723 Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, predator_05 said: It really depends on how badly the club wants him gone. If they can live with him, then holding out for a 1st makes sense. But i think we're past that point. Aren't we? Douglas isn’t gonna trade him just because he is sick of him. He has a set price and won’t budge. If that means Adams is staying for a little while then so be it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletKnight89 Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Augustiniak said: this is the problem with adams vs very good players in other sports. in football, the position you play matters as much as how good you are b/c you can't just be good or great at your position, you need to impact games. adams' frustration could stem from the simple reality that despite his stats and effort he'll never be considered a foundation player. he's lashing out. Agreed. I also don't like the fact that it appears that he just wants to go to a winner. I understand the passion to want to win and you obviously want players like that. But he doesn't appear willing to be part of building something. He's not the first great player on a bad team. He comes off as a frontrunner to me. You have to worry about guys like him when things aren't going well. That's not the guy I would want to give big money to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hael Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 Jamie Collins, Sheldon Richardson and Leonard Williams all got roughly a low three in trade value (after all the bells and whistles), but they all crucially only had their fifth year left so Adams value is significantly improved relatively speaking bc he has an extra (cheaper) year. While the above were pro bowl lvl players, Adams is probably a top 3 player at his position, so again higher value. so I would say a mid to high first rounder and change (maybe a 4th or 5th) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 18 minutes ago, BigRy56 said: This is all going to go absolutely nowhere. I don't really know what Jamal is thinking here.... this reeks of some really, really bad 'guidance' Exactly. Whether I'm talking to Jamal's camp or a potential trade partner, my message is essentially the same: I have Jamal Adams under my control for the next four years if I want, for less money than he wants to play for. He has two choices right now, and that's to play football for the NY Jets, or not to play professional football at all. I don't care that he's asked for a trade, and I won't care if he demands (lol!) one. I'll listen to offers, but if I don't get one that I feel is worth it, Adams can either play for the Jets or get fined. And that'll be his decision. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
predator_05 Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 What makes this harder, is Adams' posturing on social media and generally insubordinate behavior kills any team's desire to trade FOR him. Like who the **** would want this guy? If he's complaining about not getting 'fair treatment' 2 years out and wants to be paid like a 'stud', NOBODY would want to take him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BROOKLYN JET Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 Jamal Adams won't be happy until he's the most hated Jet of all time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
win4ever Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 Take the trade compensation and cap savings and parlay it into more legitimate NFL pieces around Sam Darnold please. I won’t say he’s not an excellent player but for the money he demands he has to also be a ball hawk too, which he is not. Unfortunately time to move on.Yeah it’s not the end of the world. The cap is vital moving forward if revenues are down, and the picks are essential. If we can get a right tackle in the first next year, I’d make the deal. I would pay him, he’s very good at being a box safety but not if he’s a diva like this. It also sets a bad precedent. I think the part that bothers me is the news that he won’t ask for extension on some teams. At this point, it’s a matter of finding the right fit in a team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR24 Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 Jamal for La'el Collins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets723 Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, predator_05 said: What makes this harder, is Adams' posturing on social media and generally insubordinate behavior kills any team's desire to trade FOR him. Like who the **** would want this guy? If he's complaining about not getting 'fair treatment' 2 years out and wants to be paid like a 'stud', NOBODY would want to take him. Maybe. But I think teams are also saying “The Jets were the problem and we can make Jamal happy”. They still want to rip us off but I do think somebody will pay up just on his talent alone and the fact that they feel they can control him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 A 1st and a 3rd seems fair. Or a 1st and a WR or OG or Edge that is not on the last year of his deal. Say no to Yannick. Hard pass. Plus Adams is better than him. So we’d be getting hosed trading him straight up. If Yannick was worth a 1st, he’d be traded already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
predator_05 Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Ohhthepain said: "JAmAl iZ tHe HeArT AnD SoULl oV dIs TEeAm Bro00ooO!!!" Even when ignoring that this is vindictive as ****, what does he actually gain from this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
predator_05 Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, Jets723 said: Maybe. But I think teams are also saying “The Jets were the problem and we can make Jamal happy”. They still want to rip us off but I do think somebody will pay up just on his talent alone and the fact that they feel they can control him I'm sure the phones are ringing behind the scenes. Maybe....all this is an act to force JD to trade him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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