Sal Pal says Bechton has Sub-Par year, says Trevor overhypeded

[kdels62]

21 minutes ago, QB1 said:

Haha haha 

would the jets trade becton for wirfs? No way in hell 

would the bucs trade wirfs for becton? In a flash

wirfs plays RT

wirfs play with the goat QB known for maneuvering the pocket and getting rid of the ball

am I being punked? 

They would not trade Wirfs for Becton. Sal Pal had a terrible take but both are excellent and either would’ve been a good pick in that spot.

[QB1]

Just now, kdels62 said:

They would not trade Wirfs for Becton. Sal Pal had a terrible take but both are excellent and either would’ve been a good pick in that spot.

They would 

[pdxgreen]

32 minutes ago, viffer said:

Might happen if JD can't trade back. If they draft Sewell Becton may move to RT.

Oh trust me.  I'm a Duck fan and have followed Sewell's career since HS.  Hes a slam dunk pick and maybe the best OL prospect in two friggin decades.  But the only way I see that happening is if Douglas doesn't think Wilson/Fields/Lance aren't worth dropping for.  Even I can see that is highly unlikely.

Douglas wants as much draft capital as he can get.  And he'd have to see a potential HOF in Sewell to drop that far. But honestly, the kid really is that good.  Ducks fans talk about him more than Gary Zimmerman.  And Zimmerman was a #$!#ing bad ass.

[Dcat]

1 hour ago, slats said:

Wirfs was the safer pick, and the one I would've made. Becton still has the higher ceiling, and I'm glad that's who JD went with. We'll see how it shakes out. 

Meanwhile some of us wannabe geniuses (like me) had Thomas at the top of our lists.  Sheeesh... thank God for Joe Douglas with a shout out to Gettleman for getting Thomas out of the mix before us.

[Barry McCockinner]

Wirfs vs. Becton is just apples to oranges. Different positions, different offenses, one happens to play in front of a HOF QB known for getting rid of the ball quickly.

Becton has had his struggles lately but he still had a good season and has shown massive potential. 

[SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN]

1 hour ago, kevinc855 said:

Cimini Flight Deck podcast at 8 minute mark Sal Pal has some real hot takes...

Sal Paolantonio · Flight Deck with Rich Cimini (spotify.com)

Says Bechton hasn't lived up to expectations. Says JD messed up, shoulda took Wirfs.

Calls Trevor NOT a generational Talent, could just be just a Baker type guy. Needs a team around him. 

Unsure about Sam, has to fix the INT and risky throws.

Thinks Jets should hire Bienemy from KC.

[TuscanyTile2]

33 minutes ago, slats said:

There were a couple folks here poking holes in Lawrence before the Jets won a game. He'll be thoroughly dissected by April. 

I think he experiences a Marino-like fall and Miami ends up grabbing him late in the 1st round with their own pick (currently #23) rather than with the Texans' pick.

 

[KRL]

35 minutes ago, QB1 said:

Haha haha 

would the jets trade becton for wirfs? No way in hell 

would the bucs trade wirfs for becton? In a flash

wirfs plays RT

wirfs play with the goat QB known for maneuvering the pocket and getting rid of the ball

am I being punked? 

So true!!!  Context is key, Wirfs went into a ready made OLine and played RT.

Becton was the LT on a rebuilt OLine and he was the focal point

[TuscanyTile2]

I love how all the media types stick the loser guys who can't get a HC job elsewhere (Bienemy) with the Jets.  

[Charlie Brown]

Nice interview

[DeerPark]

1 hour ago, Bronx said:

 

 Becton at RT, So we'll at LT. 

I would sign up for Sewell.  The more I read about this kid, the more he's the generational talent at left tackle.  

[Columbia Jet Fan]

Not sure how anyone can read this and not think anything else but "wow Sal Pal has really checked out and is riding off his past." 

 

I mean he literally said Becton has been sub par in a vacuum - not even just in comparison to Wirfs. He has been unanimously praised by everyone evaluating that I have seen. 

 

He compared Trevor Lawrence to Baker Mayfield... I mean at some point you just need to ignore a guy 

 

[TuscanyTile2]

[Jet Blast]

1 hour ago, kevinc855 said:

Cimini at 37 minute mark also grades the 2020 draft and gives it an "ok" "Nothing to write home about"

"ok" is a vast improvement over any of our recent drafts!

[UntouchableCrew]

I honestly think if you did a re-draft of the 2020 draft Becton is the first OT off the board. Wifs (and Wills for that matter) have been great but I wouldn't trade Becton for either of them.

At least we didn't draft Andrew Thomas.

[UntouchableCrew]

Just now, Jet Blast said:

"ok" is a vast improvement over any of our recent drafts!

I was thinking that too. So far I'd probably grade them as "pretty good" -- which means it looks like it could be our best draft since 2007 lol.

[kevinc855]

2 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said:

I honestly think if you did a re-draft of the 2020 draft Becton is the first OT off the board. Wifs (and Wills for that matter) have been great but I wouldn't trade Becton for either of them.

At least we didn't draft Andrew Thomas.

Think that’s a minority view.

With a do over you take wirfs no brainer 

[BigRy56]

Subpar year? Wow interesting 

[TuscanyTile2]

Mekhi Becton: "Media types saying I haven't 'lived up to expectations' aren't real media types"

[UntouchableCrew]

4 minutes ago, kevinc855 said:

Think that’s a minority view.

With a do over you take wirfs no brainer 

I'd be genuinely curious what people in the NFL think. I think given Becton's enormous upside and the pre-draft perception that he was more of a project what he's done stepping in at LT on a really bad team has been really impressive. He's already a mauler on the running game and held his own against some of the best pass rushers in the NFL. I think it's entirely possibly two years from now he could be the best LT in the NFL My only concern with him is the injury stuff.

Wirfs was much more polished (I mean, Iowa is a OL factory) and has played RT on an offense with Tom Freakin' Brady at QB. Doesn't mean he hasn't been great I just don't know if most NFL GMs would take him over Becton going forward.

But frankly, Wills, Becton and Wirfs have all been great and unlike QB it's not like having one stud LT is really any different than another. It looks like we got what we signed up for -- a cornerstone pro bowl caliber LT for the next 10 years.

[Adoni Beast]

Subpar?! Lmao he was almost a pro bowler 

[pdxgreen]

Listening to the podcast now.... Well.  Better takes than I thought.

[kevinc855]

3 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said:

I'd be genuinely curious what people in the NFL think. I think given Becton's enormous upside and the pre-draft perception that he was more of a project what he's done stepping in at LT on a really bad team has been really impressive. He's already a mauler on the running game and held his own against some of the best pass rushers in the NFL. I think it's entirely possibly two years from now he could be the best LT in the NFL My only concern with him is the injury stuff.

Wirfs was much more polished (I mean, Iowa is a OL factory) and has played RT on an offense with Tom Freakin' Brady at QB. Doesn't mean he hasn't been great I just don't know if most NFL GMs would take him over Becton going forward.

But frankly, Wills, Becton and Wirfs have all been great and unlike QB it's not like having one stud LT is really any different than another. It looks like we got what we signed up for -- a cornerstone pro bowl caliber LT for the next 10 years.

Becton has some real low scores on the pass rush and has given up 11 sacks....hes just to fat. Needs to improve his footwork and get in a little better shape and most importantly stay healthy. 

He has the potential to really show something year 2

[slats]

3 minutes ago, kevinc855 said:

Becton has some real low scores on the pass rush and has given up 11 sacks....hes just to fat. Needs to improve his footwork and get in a little better shape and most importantly stay healthy. 

He has the potential to really show something year 2

The man isn't fat, he's just huge. 

[bla bla bla]

2 hours ago, ScarletKnight89 said:

Wirfs has been the best tackle out of the group. But Becton has not been "sub-par". He's had a very good rookie year and was always more of a project at the position because of the system at Louisville. Wirfs is also on a much better team with much better lineman around him. 

You can't be anything less than thrilled with Becton's performance as a rookie in my opinion. After Wirfs, he's been the best second best tackle out of that group as a rookie. 

Wirfs has played RT for a QB with one of the fastest "snap to throw" times the NFL has really seem. I'll take Becton 10 times our of 10.

[ScarletKnight89]

8 minutes ago, bla bla bla said:

Wirfs has played RT for a QB with one of the fastest "snap to throw" times the NFL has really seem. I'll take Becton 10 times our of 10.

Yeah, but we're Jets fans so we're biased. The truth is, we don't know who the better player is yet. 

[jetscrazey]

Wirfs is playing right tackle, an easier position all things considered.

Becton will be fine.  Sal Pal is trying to find hairs to split here.

[Beerfish]

Becton has been good enough to be very optimistic about, but early talk of pro bowl was very very premature.  He has had more than one game where he looks like a rookie.

Comments about Lawrence are accurate, very over hyped.

Beienemy would be an awful hire.

Darnold has to make more good plays, he has cut down on turnover the last 4 or 5 games.  Darnold is the biggest decision Douglas is going to have this off season.

[Snook]

2 hours ago, FidelioJet said:

Another great call by master draft JD.

You do realize they haven't been playing the same position?

[Greenseed4]

Wirfs probably doesn’t even get chest congestion.

[Icer]

Why are we even comparing a RT to a LT? They aren't the same position, lets see how he would have fared up lining up against the premiere rusher on a majority of the teams they faced

[Shockwave]

3 hours ago, kevinc855 said:

Cimini Flight Deck podcast at 8 minute mark Sal Pal has some real hot takes...

Sal Paolantonio · Flight Deck with Rich Cimini (spotify.com)

Says Bechton hasn't lived up to expectations. Says JD messed up, shoulda took Wirfs.

Calls Trevor NOT a generational Talent, could just be just a Baker type guy. Needs a team around him. 

Unsure about Sam, has to fix the INT and risky throws.

Thinks Jets should hire Bienemy from KC.

Wirfs is a RT. Becton has shown the potential this year to be a top 10 LT. 

If the Draft occurred tomorrow based on their play this year Becton would have went 4th overall and the gap between the two would be even more significant. Jets absolutely nailed the pick. Becton has show the ability to shut down and dominate at times the best ends on the planet. 

[Jetlife33]

All of these takes are legitimately awful 

[BurnleyJet]

Well I’m sold, this guy clearly knows what he’s talking about?

[Sonny Werblin]

I'll go with Brian Baldinger over Sal Pal