32EBoozer Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 I personally Trade Watson in the next two weeks. You need to bring a coach in to take over the shipwreck and no one will do it until they know what the future holds… With or without Watson. At least they’ll know they’ll get one of the top two quarterbacks in this draft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jet2020 Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 If I’m the Texans GM, I’m bending over backwards for this dude. Hire Eric. Let him stink for a year and then tell Watson his job is to throw football, not hire coaches. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 This wasn't an option but I think it's before the Draft but not today or even this month. The Texans need to let things cool down and quietly tell DeShaun they could work to move him. But right now there's blood in the water. I also wouldn't wait longer than the start of FA. Teams will start to make serious roster construction and Cap-impacting decisions when they sign free agents in March. Watson needs to be dealt by then so that teams can plan around it, absorb the Cap ramifications, etc. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet2020 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 1 minute ago, jetstream23 said: This wasn't an option but I think it's before the Draft but not today or even this month. The Texans need to let things cool down and quietly tell DeShaun they could work to move him. But right now there's blood in the water. I also wouldn't wait longer than the start of FA. Teams will start to make serious roster construction and Cap-impacting decisions when they sign free agents in March. Watson needs to be dealt by then so that teams can plan around it, absorb the Cap ramifications, etc. This is why a draft day trade is unlikely. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post UntouchableCrew Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 Frankly, if I'm the owner of the Texans, I'm firing that Easterby goof and going directly to Watson hat in hand to see if I can make this work. Put on a BLM shirt, hire Bienemy, do whatever I can do placate the guy and convince him we're moving in the right direction. A 25 year old top 5 QB is the most valuable thing in the NFL -- they should do everything in their power to make it work. If it can't be repaired? I think you trade him sooner rather than later so you know what you're working with as you approach the draft. I don't see any reason the offers actually go up closer to the draft. Just set a deadline, let all parties involved know when you need their best and final offer. I'd rather know what my picks were leading up the draft to strategize. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBeardedSavage Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Long term, their best move is to patch things up and keep him. You're just not going to replace this guy easily. Hopefully they f*** it up and we profit from their incompetence. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 LOL Watson hasn't asked for a trade yet. hire Bieniemy and this probalby goes away. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TnT Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 Probably wait til March....when trades can actually happen. 2 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted January 18, 2021 Author Share Posted January 18, 2021 I actually thought trades were allowed in Feb but I guess the new league year begins in March, several weeks after SB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryu79 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 If I were them I am on Zoom with Bienemy right now and asking Watson who he wants at OC, DC, how he takes his coffee... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Just now, ryu79 said: If I were them I am on Zoom with Bienemy right now and asking Watson who he wants at OC, DC, how he takes his coffee... Big NBA fans around here I see. Bunch a sheep. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 17 minutes ago, flgreen said: LOL Watson hasn't asked for a trade yet. hire Bieniemy and this probalby goes away. Always nice to see a rational post in the silly season.. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 I take my chances that this will eventually blow over or than I can make Watson happy. The only trade for draft picks that I would even entertain as possible would be a trade with the jags that gives me the number one pick. No one else even needs to call me to propose a trade unless they have the number one pick for 2021 in their pocket. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jetsfan80 Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 I take my chances that this will eventually blow over or than I can make Watson happy. The only trade for draft picks that I would even entertain as possible would be a trade with the jags that gives me the number one pick. No one else even needs to call me to propose a trade unless they have the number one pick for 2021 in their pocket.The Texans aren’t going to trade Watson to a place where they’d have to face him 2x per year.And this thing isn’t blowing over. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 11 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: The Texans aren’t going to trade Watson to a place where they’d have to face him 2x per year. And this thing isn’t blowing over. ? ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Think you have to get the coach first. Then, see how things play out from there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 What color is the sky today. Blue Blue/Gray Im not really sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docdhc Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 The GM just got there. It will take some time for him to figure this out. Agree that he has to do it by March when free agency starts. Players will want to know who the QB is before signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Nothing can happen until March 17th, at least officially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Man, first the Astros get gutted for cheating. Then Harden shoots his way out of town. Now Watson. It is not a good time to be a sports fan in Houston. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted January 18, 2021 Author Share Posted January 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: The Texans aren’t going to trade Watson to a place where they’d have to face him 2x per year. And this thing isn’t blowing over. Agreed. Watson sees what’s ahead of him. Limited draft capital (Tunsil trade) Overbloated cap (JJ and others) $17 m over the cap for top 51 If Watson is a post June 1 trade the cap savings are double the dead money Sorry about the table but I’m on my phone See Texans OTC for chart Contracted Players (55 total) Player Base Salary Prorated Bonus Roster Bonus Workout Bonus Other Bonus Guaranteed Salary Cap Number Dead Money & Cap Savings Cut (pre-June 1)Cut (post-June 1)Trade (pre-June 1)Trade (post-June 1)RestructureExtension Regular Per Game J.J. Watt $17,500,000 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $17,500,000 $0 $17,500,000 Laremy Tunsil $16,150,000 $3,250,000 $0 $0 $0 $0 $16,150,000 $19,400,000 $3,250,000 $16,150,000 Whitney Mercilus $10,500,000 $1,500,000 $0 $0 $0 $0 $10,500,000 $12,000,000 $1,500,000 $10,500,000 David Johnson $7,950,000 $0 $300,000 $750,000 $0 $0 $2,100,000 $8,812,500 $0 $8,812,500 Deshaun Watson $10,540,000 $5,400,000 $0 $0 $0 $0 $10,540,000 $15,940,000 $5,400,000 $10,540,000 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 36 minutes ago, flgreen said: LOL Watson hasn't asked for a trade yet. hire Bieniemy and this probalby goes away. I'd say possibly, not probably. Depends on how bad the relationship is. One question though - Will the Texans even be able to hire a HC who doesn't know if Watson will be there or not? And, imagine the Texans hire Bieniemy to appease Watson and Watson still wants out. lol 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandy Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Every second that goes by and the Texans don't do anything with regards to Easterby and their HC, they lose more leverage and Deshaun gets more unhappy. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 This is just going to fester. I'm starting to think that Watson thinks he works for a racist organization. Keep in mind, Watson sees the writing on the wall here, the Texans have no high draft picks the next 2 years, they have no money either. The Texans are currently 31 million over the new salary cap ceiling. They went 4-12 & JJ Watt will be gone (17,500,000 cap hit- 0 dead money). Will Fuller is a free agent. So they have no money, no draft picks, no way of improving the team unless they hit on every pick outside of the 2nd round. This team is in a world of hurt & needs to hit the rest button badly. Jets will still have the usual number of draft picks, and money, a young Mims, Crowder under contract, a young QW (and a good young Dline) 2 Tackles & a Center, CJ Mosely likely back. A very good coaching staff, and some very young talent to work with in Hall, Bless, Davis, I'm sure we'll resign Maye, plus enough cap room to nab a top flight WR & Edge rusher. This situation is like Night & Day compared to where Houston is right now. Their window isn't shut, it's SLAMMED SHUT & Gorilla glued. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 The New York Watsons. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 20 minutes ago, docdhc said: The GM just got there. It will take some time for him to figure this out. Agree that he has to do it by March when free agency starts. Players will want to know who the QB is before signing. Who they signing in free agency? They're 31 million over the current cap. They have to cut JJ Watt & will still be 14 million over & Will Fuller is a free agent. The Texans are the 2012 NY Jets. Literally stuck in neutral with a steering wheel (Watson) and no engine & no tires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxgreen Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 I think you'll at least see him stay through a good part of the off season. May be interesting to see the timeline of JJ Watt's situation as well. It is very possible they could both could leave. Douglas' approach to a trade like that will be interesting to watch. If he values a player up to a certain point or goes full in if he feels the player is worth it. Which Watson most certainly in from a value standpoint. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phill1c Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 I think the main thing that is missing is communication. Keep the qb in the process. that's what's missing, good-faith communication from both sides. Probably, Watson mostly cares about winning. and maybe he feels like ownership is too stupid to win. So, why waste time with Houston? Invent some made-up issue, like "hire the coach I want" and if they don't, which they won't, Watson has his ticket out of town, no egg on his face. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Part of the issue with a Watson trade is the he has a no-trade clause, which gives him some leverage into where he goes. If Miami is interested, and If he prefers the Phins, who have similar draft capital to us and are closer to winning, he can refuse to waive his no trade to go to the Jets and try to force a trade to Miami. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 It's not up to the Texans. It's up to Watson. And if he makes it clear there is no saving him, they need to strike immediately as their ability to recruit a strong head coach depends upon knowing what the QB situation is. If Watson plays it coy, Texans have to move forward with a compromise candidate willing to settle for a job with an unknown at QB. SAR I 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 1 hour ago, flgreen said: LOL Watson hasn't asked for a trade yet. hire Bieniemy and this probalby goes away. Agreed. I’d be shocked if Watson is moved. This buzz just seems like off-season catnip for bored fans and reporters. QBs this good are just not traded. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 1 minute ago, PS17 said: Agreed. I’d be shocked if Watson is moved. This buzz just seems like off-season catnip for bored fans and reporters. QBs this good are just not traded. Reporters know that they can post any little tidbit and the fanbases of every team that doesn't have a top 5 QB will go nuts. Sh*t, the seahawks fans are advocating to trade Wilson for Watson. All you have to do is write a couple paragraph of utter garbage and then slap "Jets could trade #2 overall for Watson". No substance or content. All it needs is knowing the Jets have the #2 pick and it will generate a ton of hits and it will be posted and plastered everywhere by desperate fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 9 minutes ago, PS17 said: Agreed. I’d be shocked if Watson is moved. This buzz just seems like off-season catnip for bored fans and reporters. QBs this good are just not traded. Another rare sane post in the silly season.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted January 18, 2021 Author Share Posted January 18, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Savage69 said: Another rare sane post in the silly season.. Agreed. I’d be shocked if Watson is moved. This buzz just seems like off-season catnip for bored fans and reporters. QBs this good are just not traded. That’s what NBA fans said before players started forcing their way out of town. Now I understand the NBA Players Union is strong while the NFL is relatively week.... but players are becoming more aware of their leverage; especially these young socially aware players Edited January 18, 2021 by 32EBoozer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Isn’t there a deadline or some sh*t probably have to wait until new league year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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