Popular Post KO91 Posted September 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 28, 2021 https://www.ganggreennation.com/2021/9/28/22698646/the-jets-offense-doesnt-make-sense Highlights 46% of targets going to Griffin, Berrios, Kroft, Ty Johnson Ty Johnson being tasked as primary pass protection back and has been one of the worst in the league over past two seasons Jets 6th highest two TE set percentage in league Jets have had more success running the ball out of 11 than 12 personnel 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Beerfish Posted September 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 28, 2021 Having a scheme that relies on two TEs I am totally fine with, now just go out and get two TEs that are not among the worst in the league. 15 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Spoot-Face Posted September 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 28, 2021 So, the Jets are doing everything stupid and wrong. Does that about sum it up? 6 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Origen Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 This is the part of the season where we look back at from Game 9 and try to remember who half those players were. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnknownJetFan Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 13 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Having a scheme that relies on two TEs I am totally fine with, now just go out and get two TEs that are not among the worst in the league. As Parcells would say, "show me which tree to go pick them off of". We need to draft a TE next year probably in the 1st round to get a real good one, and not to aggravate with history but we have not done real well picking TEs in the 1st round in Brady, Becht, etc. Though Dustin Keller was pretty good. I would like to see Kenny Y. brought up from the PS squad, but I assume his blocking may not be up to par to do that. But developing his catching with live game reps would be good to have done sometime this year sooner rather than later. This past game we didn't bring up a 2nd player which could have been him, but then you have to push him higher on the depth chart to get him on the field. If Kroft can't go this week at least bring Kenny up and see if you can get him in as a 2nd or 3rd TE. Boy, it would be great to see that and Mims replace Moore this week who should sit due to a concussion. With Kenny and Mims at least it would get 2 Receivers on the field that have good hands from what we have seen and maybe that would even take some pressure off the other WRs Davis, Cole, etc. and they could get better separation for making easier catches. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 9 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said: So, the Jets are doing everything stupid and wrong. Does that about sum it up? Around these here parts, we call that consistency. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 19 minutes ago, KO91 said: https://www.ganggreennation.com/2021/9/28/22698646/the-jets-offense-doesnt-make-sense Highlights 46% of targets going to Griffin, Berrios, Kroft, Ty Johnson Ty Johnson being tasked as primary pass protection back and has been one of the worst in the league over past two seasons Jets 6th highest two TE set percentage in league Jets have had more success running the ball out of 11 than 12 personnel Two of the three game our QB was running for his life and still getting beat up. Nothing shocking that the quick pass to a TE, slot receiver or back is the go to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, munchmemory said: Around these here parts, we call that consistency. I call it the fall back 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ryu79 Posted September 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 28, 2021 You know who is great at run blocking at WR.... Denzel Mims.... 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscrazey Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 The 2 TE sets are baffling when the Jets are heavy on WRs and have the worst TEs in the NFL. LaFleur is clearly in over his head and let’s hope Saleh has the maturity to force a change in strategy. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 1 hour ago, KO91 said: https://www.ganggreennation.com/2021/9/28/22698646/the-jets-offense-doesnt-make-sense Highlights 46% of targets going to Griffin, Berrios, Kroft, Ty Johnson Ty Johnson being tasked as primary pass protection back and has been one of the worst in the league over past two seasons Jets 6th highest two TE set percentage in league Jets have had more success running the ball out of 11 than 12 personnel Ty Johnson ultimately didn’t get much run in Detroit when they were desperate for RB, because of pass pro. Ty Johnson and Josh Adams ate both guys who ate #3 types. Practice squad. Active only if they play on special teams… and both get okay here with the Jets over Lamical Perine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Beerfish said: Having a scheme that relies on two TEs I am totally fine with, now just go out and get two TEs that are not among the worst in the league. Bingo. It's like a team that wants to play 3-4 with no linebackers. If you want to emphasize a certain personnel group and scheme then you better have the personnel. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetworks Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 1 hour ago, UnknownJetFan said: As Parcells would say, "show me which tree to go pick them off of". We need to draft a TE next year probably in the 1st round to get a real good one, and not to aggravate with history but we have not done real well picking TEs in the 1st round in Brady, Becht, etc. Though Dustin Keller was pretty good. I would like to see Kenny Y. brought up from the PS squad, but I assume his blocking may not be up to par to do that. But developing his catching with live game reps would be good to have done sometime this year sooner rather than later. This past game we didn't bring up a 2nd player which could have been him, but then you have to push him higher on the depth chart to get him on the field. If Kroft can't go this week at least bring Kenny up and see if you can get him in as a 2nd or 3rd TE. Boy, it would be great to see that and Mims replace Moore this week who should sit due to a concussion. With Kenny and Mims at least it would get 2 Receivers on the field that have good hands from what we have seen and maybe that would even take some pressure off the other WRs Davis, Cole, etc. and they could get better separation for making easier catches. Know when TE blocking doesn't matter? When the person over them is more concerned with them slipping by them downfield for a catch. Know when else? When you have the least dynamic RB group in the league. I'm with you, bring up Yeboah and see if he can't help. Development is key this year, so let's get these guys playing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard13 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Beerfish said: Having a scheme that relies on two TEs I am totally fine with, now just go out and get two TEs that are not among the worst in the league. Using 2 TE’s and Zach is STILL getting sacked 5 times a game. SMH ??♂️ 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 2 hours ago, KO91 said: https://www.ganggreennation.com/2021/9/28/22698646/the-jets-offense-doesnt-make-sense Highlights 46% of targets going to Griffin, Berrios, Kroft, Ty Johnson Ty Johnson being tasked as primary pass protection back and has been one of the worst in the league over past two seasons Jets 6th highest two TE set percentage in league Jets have had more success running the ball out of 11 than 12 personnel interesting article. thanks for posting good insight on the whole Mims vs Berrios thing. everybody should read this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 I just don’t understand how you watch this film and it’s full of crap and mistakes and you say yeah…let’s keep going with this, just needs time. Only a matter of time before we’re scoring 30 points a game. Consistency baby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 2 hours ago, Spoot-Face said: So, the Jets are doing everything stupid and wrong. Does that about sum it up? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 49 minutes ago, Jetworks said: I'm with you, bring up Yeboah and see if he can't help. Sounds like that is going to happen: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post doitny Posted September 29, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 29, 2021 51 minutes ago, Lith said: Sounds like that is going to happen: where is DWC when you need him. lmao 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 25 minutes ago, doitny said: where is DWC when you need him. lmao C'mon, does anyone ever really "need" DWC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peekskill68 Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 A lot of what he's saying about Ty Johnson is the reason we saw Frank Gore out there for 30+ snaps a game last year... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adb280z Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 3 hours ago, UnknownJetFan said: As Parcells would say, "show me which tree to go pick them off of". We need to draft a TE next year probably in the 1st round to get a real good one, and not to aggravate with history but we have not done real well picking TEs in the any round The Jets haven't done a good job picking TEs in any round. But you could say that about just any position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 4 hours ago, UnknownJetFan said: As Parcells would say, "show me which tree to go pick them off of". We need to draft a TE next year probably in the 1st round to get a real good one, and not to aggravate with history but we have not done real well picking TEs in the 1st round in Brady, Becht, etc. Though Dustin Keller was pretty good. I would like to see Kenny Y. brought up from the PS squad, but I assume his blocking may not be up to par to do that. But developing his catching with live game reps would be good to have done sometime this year sooner rather than later. This past game we didn't bring up a 2nd player which could have been him, but then you have to push him higher on the depth chart to get him on the field. If Kroft can't go this week at least bring Kenny up and see if you can get him in as a 2nd or 3rd TE. Boy, it would be great to see that and Mims replace Moore this week who should sit due to a concussion. With Kenny and Mims at least it would get 2 Receivers on the field that have good hands from what we have seen and maybe that would even take some pressure off the other WRs Davis, Cole, etc. and they could get better separation for making easier catches. A TE in the 1st rd? Sure and maybe draft OL in the 6th? jeez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icer Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 Thought Ty Johnson had some juice as a RB for the committee approach but if he can't block or chip then he needs to get replaced 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 3 hours ago, Integrity28 said: Ty Johnson ultimately didn’t get much run in Detroit when they were desperate for RB, because of pass pro. Ty Johnson and Josh Adams ate both guys who ate #3 types. Practice squad. Active only if they play on special teams… and both get okay here with the Jets over Lamical Perine. Wow they must have been hungry. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 8 minutes ago, Icer said: Thought Ty Johnson had some juice as a RB for the committee approach but if he can't block or chip then he needs to get replaced Remember how we all loved Ty Johnson in the pre-season? 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 This is simple, the Job at this point in time is just too much for LaFleur and its obvious. That and once again our skill players on Offense Stink. Corey McCarrons is exactly that. Its time this team starts using some draft picks in the first freaking round on Skill players... yes RB and WR. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KO91 Posted September 29, 2021 Author Share Posted September 29, 2021 12 minutes ago, Icer said: Thought Ty Johnson had some juice as a RB for the committee approach but if he can't block or chip then he needs to get replaced That’s my biggest issue with Saleh thus far. The guy seems completely accepting of this garbage. His job is to win games first, develop players second. As a HC in the NFL your record means everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 11 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: Wow they must have been hungry. No kidding, right? The #3 is the Baconator of all things, too! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 2 hours ago, Lith said: C'mon, does anyone ever really "need" DWC? he never left. i believe hes still here and i have a good idea who he is. been quiet for a few day. i think that Denver game knocked all his confidence out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 6 hours ago, UnknownJetFan said: As Parcells would say, "show me which tree to go pick them off of". We need to draft a TE next year probably in the 1st round to get a real good one, and not to aggravate with history but we have not done real well picking TEs in the 1st round in Brady, Becht, etc. Though Dustin Keller was pretty good. I would like to see Kenny Y. brought up from the PS squad, but I assume his blocking may not be up to par to do that. But developing his catching with live game reps would be good to have done sometime this year sooner rather than later. This past game we didn't bring up a 2nd player which could have been him, but then you have to push him higher on the depth chart to get him on the field. If Kroft can't go this week at least bring Kenny up and see if you can get him in as a 2nd or 3rd TE. Boy, it would be great to see that and Mims replace Moore this week who should sit due to a concussion. With Kenny and Mims at least it would get 2 Receivers on the field that have good hands from what we have seen and maybe that would even take some pressure off the other WRs Davis, Cole, etc. and they could get better separation for making easier catches. Joe Douglas has had 19 picks in the last two drafts and drafted zero tight ends. Out huge Fa signing is friggin kroft when other more than decent TEs were on the Fa market. So this is no 'oh hey! we need TE's moment' Douglas wasted picks on many guys while ignoring the position. Most of the top Tes in the league are not in fact 1st rounders but if you do not pick any TE's you are not going to find any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 1 hour ago, KO91 said: That’s my biggest issue with Saleh thus far. The guy seems completely accepting of this garbage. His job is to win games first, develop players second. As a HC in the NFL your record means everything. but he told you all summer this season wasnt about wins its about development. and im sure him and JD arent doing this without Woodys blessing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68JET11 Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 12 hours ago, Jetworks said: Know when TE blocking doesn't matter? When the person over them is more concerned with them slipping by them downfield for a catch. Know when else? When you have the least dynamic RB group in the league. I'm with you, bring up Yeboah and see if he can't help. Development is key this year, so let's get these guys playing. You know when else, when the correct players are playing the correct positions.... Davis/Mims outside, Crowder/Moore slot, and having an OL that can block without 2 TE sets... That's what I want to see from my OC. Start playing the guys in the correct positions. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee Is Great Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 Excessive 12 personnel is cutting off our nose to spite our face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 The is just depressing navel gazing sh*t right here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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