Does the 2021 draft have the potential to be the worst QB heavy draft in league history?

[Wit]

I know it’s too early, but early returns are pretty gross. 

[More Cowbell]

1 minute ago, Wit said:

I know it’s too early, but early returns are pretty gross. 

Enjoy all the negative reps

[Beerfish]

Way too early for this.  Young qbs go to bad teams, give them at least a year or so.

[slimjasi]

5 minutes ago, Wit said:

I know it’s too early

End thread 

[Obrien2Toon]

Lawrence and Fields are going to be studs as you could’ve predicted their sophomore years in high school

 

[1010WINS]

29 minutes ago, Obrien2Toon said:

Lawrence and Fields are going to be studs as you could’ve predicted their sophomore years in high school

 

What about Wilson?

[Jetsfan80]

39 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

Way too early for this.  Young qbs go to bad teams, give them at least a year or so.

Pretty much this.  NFL fans were spoiled by how well Herbert and Burrow played out of the gates.  That is not at all typical.  

[Hex]

Post this thread in 2 years, not 9 weeks in

[varjet]

Josh Allen looked very busty year 1. 

[Snell41]

The only QB in this draft that was 1st round worthy was Lawrence. I felt that before the draft and I feel that way now.


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[jetstream23]

9 minutes ago, varjet said:

Josh Allen looked very busty year 1. 

Murray was okay and not great as a rookie too.

Give these guys at least a year or two. 

[Beerfish]

Q1:  0-11, 59%, 7 td, 14 ints

QB2: 3-13, 56%, 26 td, 28 ints

QB3: 1-6, 48%, 6 td, 9 ints

QB4 4-6, 48%, 7 td, 14 ints

QB5 8-8, but then 2-9, 58% 11 tds 15 ints

All super bowl winners and hof's

Years two and three are far more important and far more of an indicator.

[Web72]

49 minutes ago, varjet said:

Josh Allen looked very busty year 1. 

This weekend too. Buffalo should move on

[Fantasy Island]

56 minutes ago, varjet said:

Josh Allen looked very busty year 1. 

And last Sunday 

[GangGreened]

How dare you talk about Zach Wilson like that

[Creepy Lurker]

1 hour ago, varjet said:

Josh Allen looked very busty year 1. 

He had big t!ts his rookie year?

[JoeDouglasFart]

Yes, ask us Jets fans who have had great abundance of outstanding QBs to judge from.

[Jetsfan80]

2 hours ago, varjet said:

Josh Allen looked very busty year 1. 

And year 2 as well.

[greenwichjetfan]

6 hours ago, Beerfish said:

Q1:  0-11, 59%, 7 td, 14 int

QB2: 3-13, 56%, 26 td, 28 ints

QB3: 1-6, 48%, 6 td, 9 ints

QB4 4-6, 48%, 7 td, 14 ints

QB5 8-8, but then 2-9, 58% 11 tds 15 ints

All super bowl winners and hof's

Years two and three are far more important and far more of an indicator.

1: young?

2 Peyton

3, 4 no idea

5 Favre?

[Icer]

[Aussie Jet]

7 hours ago, Beerfish said:

Q1:  0-11, 59%, 7 td, 14 ints

QB2: 3-13, 56%, 26 td, 28 ints

QB3: 1-6, 48%, 6 td, 9 ints

QB4 4-6, 48%, 7 td, 14 ints

QB5 8-8, but then 2-9, 58% 11 tds 15 ints

All super bowl winners and hof's

Years two and three are far more important and far more of an indicator.

I imagine one of these quarterbacks is Aikman.

[jamesr]

Jets fans also need to stop with the crazy premature proclamations.

[The Crusher]

Some of them should have sat a year or two before starting. 
 

                              -Mike “ how you like me now?” White 
 

[kevinc855]

Stop starting them year 1 trend should come back in style 

[MysticalJet2]

Please remember even the great Peyton Manning had a crappy rookie year

[Beerfish]

8 hours ago, greenwichjetfan said:

1: young?

2 Peyton

3, 4 no idea

5 Favre?

I can't remember the order but they are Aikman, Elway, the manning brothers and brees

[greenwichjetfan]

23 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

I can't remember the order but they are Aikman, Elway, the manning brothers and brees

2 is deff Peyton cuz of the 28 ints.

I thought 4 might be Brees but I really don’t remember him having such a large TD to Int ratio at any point in his career.

I also thought 1 might be Eli but I feel like he had a win in his first couple of starts. 

aikman and elway’s first seasons are a little before my time so understandable that I’d miss them. 

oh well, when I have some time I’ll look them up. This was fun. 

[undertow]

2 hours ago, MysticalJet2 said:

Please remember even the great Peyton Manning had a crappy rookie year

People mistake making bad reads and throwing 20 interceptions bad with not being able to function and run an offense bad.

[legler82]

16 hours ago, 1010WINS said:

What about Wilson?

Yeah what about Wilson?

[Sperm Edwards]

To @Beerfish's point, it's really early yet.

That '99 QB class, touted as being on par with '83 heading into the draft, wasn't off to a lightning start either:

• #1 Couch was meh for a rookie, but really never got any better than meh. Heading into week 10, his 68 passer rating made him the class of this class. He had one outstanding game but, even with that averaged in, after 9 games his numbers were 7 TDs, 6 INTs, and 7 fumbles. It was Cleveland's first year back since Modell turned the last Browns team into the Ravens, though, so whatever decent players they had were all new to each other.
• #2 McNabb had a damn solid career but was pretty terrible as a rookie, like we'd imagine Hackenberg throwing if given the chance here. By Nov 10th he hadn't yet thrown a TD to his lone pick and 2 fumbles, and his QBR was 43, which coincidentally matched his completion percentage. He took 12 sacks on 63 dropbacks. So, he hardly looked like a borderline HOFer at that point. 
• #3 Akili Smith... needs no clarification. Ultra-bust taken.
• #11 Culpepper - was Minnesota's QB3 and never saw the field as a rookie
• #12 McNown - marginally better than Akili Smith. His lone good showing as a rookie came in December. Also just an a-hole.
• #50 King - was still on the bench; first start was in December
• #77 Brock Huard
• #101 Joe Germaine
• #131 Aaron Brooks - was pretty good for a bit for New Orleans, but rode the pine as a rookie.
• #151 Kevin Daft
• Rd 7 - Michael Bishop, Chris Greisen, Scott Covington

Entering week 10...zero of them looked like they were destined for greatness either. None of them looked even decent, really.

[Lith]

2018 class could be legendary:  Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Baker Mayfield.  And Mike 'effin White.

[Jetsfan80]

35 minutes ago, Lith said:

2018 class could be legendary:  Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Baker Mayfield.  And Mike 'effin White.

Clearly the best of the class.

[slimjasi]

17 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Pretty much this.  NFL fans were spoiled by how well Herbert and Burrow played out of the gates.  That is not at all typical.  

And it bears repeating that a lot of great QBs either:

1) Had poor or mediocre rookie seasons

OR

2) Didn’t play at all in their rookie years 

Now, this is not to say that, if a QB sucks during his rookie year, he is likely to turn it around. Most QBs just continue to suck. But everyone deserves more than 1 season to prove that they don’t suck. 

[slimjasi]

7 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Clearly the best of the class.

How amazing would this be? 
 

Josh Allen and Mike White battle for the division for the next 10 years while Mac 10 flames out. One can dream . . . 

[jgb]

It has the potential to be the worst, the best, or anything in between.