hmhertz Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 Tony Tidbits Today, 07:29 AM From last nights conversation. Again, I am not saying these are all gospel or that I agreed w him on all of them...just passing them along. 1. Yes, Jets are making a Godfather offer to SF for Deebo. Hes not saying its a done deal...just saying the attempt is being made to overwhelm SF. 2. Thinks Jets top 4 targets are Ekwonu, Gardner, Walker, and JJ in that order. 3. Says Jets will NOT take Thibs...interest is a smoke screen. 4. Forget safety net...thinks Bechton is 100% gone if they draft a OT at 4 and 80% gone even if they dont. That the CS (not JD) is done w him, that they love Fant at LT and will draft a RT replacement if need be or could move AVT out there. (We argued on this one and I dont think he has any hard evidence that this is true) 5. Does not see Ekwonu as a great LT. Sees him as a all pro level OG, pro bowl level RT or solid LT. NOT a great LT 6. Very high on Gardner as an elite shut down CB1...says his ability to play with his back to the ball is what sets him apart. 7. Doesnt see Deebo as a great fit in our O. That Shanny had a unique way of using him and not sur LaF can do the same. 8. Loves Stingley but fears the foot 9. Thinks Walker can be the best pass rushing 43 DE in the game wht the right coaching...but see #15 below 10. Thinks Linderbaum will fall to rd 2 and he wants no part of him for the Jets. Small, short arms, got dominated in the Big10 title game. 11. Very high on JJ. Thinks he COULD fall to 10 but not likely. 12. Thinks 1-2-3 will be Ekwonu, Hutch, STINGLEY and then the Jets take either Gardner or Walker at 4 if it falls that way. 13. Big Garret Wilson fan but thinks he will go 8 to Atl 14. Says if the Jets dont take an edge in rd 1 they should use the high 2 on the edge guy from Penn State. But agrees the annual passing on the elite edge rushers has become a bad joke. 15. As far as his Jets fandom, he has crossed over into Steppy Land. Once we stopped talking prospects and got into the Jets specifically he said none of this means jack sh*t because the Jets never get anything right, he has zero faith in this coaching staff and zero faith that Zach Wilson is the answer at QB. That JD got basically bullied by Woody into taking Wilson last year because he feared he would get fired if he went another year w Darnold and finished poorly. Sees no hope. Now this is a guy who has had season tickets for 45 years. A guy who has attended EVERY Jets home game since 1979. Whos vanity plate on his car is JetsFan1. And he's ready to pack it in once and for all. I sincerely hope Woody and the rest of the genius crew that runs that team realizes that they are a c*nt hair away from a large portion of this fanbase walking away if they F this up yet again. That is all. I will probably talk to him once more before draft night and during the draft. T-Minus 36 hours! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Larz Posted April 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 27, 2022 Tony Pauline is plugged in, shefter and rap have nothing ok 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 5 hours ago, hmhertz said: 6. Very high on Gardner as an elite shut down CB1...says his ability to play with his back to the ball is what sets him apart. Am I wrong in saying that Saleh wants eyes TOWARDS the LOS with his secondary, not their backs to the QB? This is the biggest thing about Sauce. If this was Rex's defense and he wanted a Revis type, then Sauce ALL DAY LONG at #4. This isn't really that type of defense. Saleh wants to sack, hurry, pressure the QB, make the opposing QB run for his life and chuck a wobbly football while he's getting sacked. That quacking duck is going to be picked off by guys in the secondary playing Zone (not Man) who are facing the LOS. Please push back if I'm seeing this wrong but I think this has always been Saleh's approach. Who were the stud CBs in SF? They didn't have elite man-cover CBs there. They invested in DLine with Bosa, Soloman Thomas, etc. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 49ers Drafts the past 5 years! Never took a DB earlier than Round 3 yet have had an elite Defense. Big time investments on the DLine (THREE 1st rounders in 5 years). 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thebuzzardman Posted April 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 27, 2022 This is encouraging... 1 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 One if the only constants the past few years with Jets drafts is outrage. The other is Tony Pauline as a constant punchline. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandy Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, thebuzzardman said: This is encouraging... *Per Pauline 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 Thinks Ekwonu goes #1, before or after the Jags extended Robinson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 Well, if Tony P says so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 20 minutes ago, hmhertz said: 7. Doesnt see Deebo as a great fit in our O. That Shanny had a unique way of using him and not sur LaF can do the same. Yeah, I am not buying this. Shanny was able to make it work, but the guy that learned under Shanny and made Berrios work won't be able to get Deebo the ball? Okiedokie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 Damn this motherf*cker is even more miserable than I am. Quote 5. Does not see Ekwonu as a great LT. Sees him as a all pro level OG, pro bowl level RT or solid LT. NOT a great LT If there's even a hint of truth to that and we take him at #4 everyone should be fired. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kevinc855 Posted April 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 27, 2022 I’m going to throw beer everywhere tomorrow right if we take a tackle at 4 1 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, kevinc855 said: I’m going to throw beer everywhere tomorrow right if we take a tackle at 4 I'd have some paper towels on stand by 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Adoni Beast Posted April 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 27, 2022 I don't believe for a second that Woody Johnson pushed Douglas to draft Wilson because there's noway Woody Johnson even knew who Zack Wilson was....and probably still doesn't know who he is. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RedBeardedSavage Posted April 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 27, 2022 Whenever I picture Tony Pauline, I picture the stereotypical exasperated, overweight, out-of-his-depth cop that yells "GET HIM OUTTA HERE!!!" when he sees Batman at a crime scene. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtherwiseHappyinLife Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 Pauline knows jack sh*te. He's been throwing a lot out there over the past several months and hasn't hit anything yet, outside some Jets interest in the Center from TB pre-FA, which I have not seen validated. In the same article/interview, he also claimed they were interested in Bozeman (Center) who signed on the cheap with another team and the Edge who ultimately left GB (who the Jets showed zero interest in). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 Just now, OtherwiseHappyinLife said: Pauline knows jack sh*te. He's been throwing a lot out there over the past several months and hasn't hit anything yet, outside some Jets interest in the Center from TB pre-FA, which I have not seen validated. In the same article/interview, he also claimed they were interested in Bozeman (Center) who signed on the cheap with another team and the Edge who ultimately left GB (who the Jets showed zero interest in). Pauline kept saying the Jets were all in on Wink Martindale and that he was their alpha dog coach they coveted. Never once mentioned Saleh as an option. They never interviewed Wink. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jago Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 deebo deal may not happen until jet pick 10 is on the clock. if wilson avail he is a quick ankle breaker whose style fits the quick 2 step drop current trend. or see if trade down avail and can grab burks mid round plus assets in trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 1) The Jets affinity for Sauce and Icky are the only constants so its the only part of all of this that I believe. 2) If JD needed Woody to pressure him off of Darnold then all hope is lost. Also why does Pauline lament this? 3) Pauline’s wrongness is my favorite constant in Jets land. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 Woody stepping in to draft the QB is fine as long as he’s willing to pull the plug early if it’s not working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandy Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 8 minutes ago, kdels62 said: 1) The Jets affinity for Sauce and Icky are the only constants so its the only part of all of this that I believe. 2) If JD needed Woody to pressure him off of Darnold then all hope is lost. Also why does Pauline lament this? 3) Pauline’s wrongness is my favorite constant in Jets land. Wasn't it reported in an article that Douglas was the most willing out of everyone to move on from Darnold because of how much he liked Wilson? And the entire process was explained? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 Lol still blows my mind how we amplify so many unqualified voices here 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 1 minute ago, Grandy said: Wasn't it reported in an article that Douglas was the most willing out of everyone to move on from Darnold because of how much he liked Wilson? And the entire process was explained? But did you read what Tony Pauline said to a random fan from another message board? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 29 minutes ago, kevinc855 said: I’m going to throw beer everywhere tomorrow right if we take a tackle at 4 Ooooo, moms gonna be pissed! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 If we take Travon walker I'll be enraged 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 Most of this are Pauline's takes - which I appreciate being posted, but my concern is what he's saying about the Jets. Two things that jump out at me.. 1) Offering a "godfather" package for Deebo - I assume this means more than #10 overall - sounds very un-JD like, feels like someone else is in charge if that's the case. 2) Taking JJ or Gardner at 4 would be awful (IMO) 3) Passing on Thib is going to be a mistake. - I'm still not buying it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 Easy to throw stuff like this out there and pretend to be an insider. "Jets are going to offer the farm for Deebo" No trade? Claim the Jets made the offer but SF was determined to keep him. Can't prove him right, can't prove him wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsons Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 tp... is Just That... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandy Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 10 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: Most of this are Pauline's takes - which I appreciate being posted, but my concern is what he's saying about the Jets. Two things that jump out at me.. 1) Offering a "godfather" package for Deebo - I assume this means more than #10 overall - sounds very un-JD like, feels like someone else is in charge if that's the case. 2) Taking JJ or Gardner at 4 would be awful (IMO) 3) Passing on Thib is going to be a mistake. - I'm still not buying it. I think the Godfather offer is just not a thing. Doesn't exist, and never did because if it did we'd have Deebo. Rap is now saying we offered something close to the other WR offers (basically offered the Tyreek deal). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 VA psych ward vibes the last few days around here, can’t decipher the psycho babble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 You know Tony is out of the loop when he hates the organization this much. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 32 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Ooooo, moms gonna be pissed! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 1 hour ago, jetstream23 said: Am I wrong in saying that Saleh wants eyes TOWARDS the LOS with his secondary, not their backs to the QB? This is the biggest thing about Sauce. If this was Rex's offense and he wanted a Revis type, then Sauce ALL DAY LONG at #4. This isn't really that type of defense. Saleh's wants to sack, hurry, pressure the QB, make the opposing QB run for his life and chuck a wobbly football while he's getting sacked. That quacking duck is going to be picked off by guys in the secondary playing Zone (not Man) who are facing the LOS. Please push back if I'm seeing this wrong but I think this has always been Saleh's approach. Who were the stud CBs in SF? They didn't have elite man-cover CBs there. They invested in DLine with Bosa, Soloman Thomas, etc. Lots of holes in this conversation. Saleh mostly wants his CBs face to QB. He wants to blitz on 3r downs. So, some man coverage skills are needed. We have the same system as SF. We dont have the same players which is why we deploy it different. Same with a team like GB. Saying Deebo doesnt fit our system is ridiculous. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 1 hour ago, hmhertz said: That JD got basically bullied by Woody into taking Wilson last year Would be far and away the most concerning thing than anything that could possibly come out of this draft... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 9 minutes ago, Grandy said: I think the Godfather offer is just not a thing. Doesn't exist, and never did because if it did we'd have Deebo. Rap is now saying we offered something close to the other WR offers (basically offered the Tyreek deal). Which is all they should offer. I love Deebo, but Tyreek is better (maybe older, but definitely better) and ONLY the jets and fish were willing/able to get him. So it's highly unlikely the niners will get more than the Jets are offering. They have to find a team willing to give up the draft capital AND a team that can afford what Deebo wants. I am guessing the Jets are the only team seriously in the running and the Niners are just trying to milk the Jets for a little more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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