Lurker89 Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 5 minutes ago, Dcat said: what? Is this some kind of new math? Some common core meth math 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganggreen305 Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 1 minute ago, FidelioJet said: Glad it's done. Terrible value. Horrific trade. Probably best QB that has ever worn a Jets uniform, yes, even at this stage of his career, and we have fans besides themselves. We can't ever be happy! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbia Jet Fan Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 16 minutes ago, Bobby816 said: Massive overpay. We gave up a quality 2nd a swap of 1st rounders which equates to a 3rd rounder in value. And what will 99% be a 1st rounder in 2024. All with no protection if he retires after this next season. So we traded a 2nd, 3rd, and a 2024 1st for a 39 year old for possibly only 1 year. Awful deal. JD lost big time. lol. The swap from 13 to 15 is not a third rounder... thats off of the Jimmy Johnson chart which no one uses anymore. Look at the modern charts - here is one: https://overthecap.com/draft-trade-value-chart The drop from 13 to 15 is 20% of the swap of our 6th to their 5 - which means just on the swaps we actually did better. We gave up 42 and a 2023 1 assuming AR doesn't get hurt. Great? Nah but basically what everyone thought. We reportedly wanted comp for Rodgers retiring and getting back a 2025 pick - but instead we use 65% of snaps - which protects us if AR blows out a knee and we are in position to draft a QB. Its a second rounder and either an early second or late first next year. If Rodgers retires after one year - I agree its a bad deal - but that was ALWAYS going to be the case. I'll assume AR got the Jets comfortable he intends to play two years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 My only issue with the trade is that I would have liked stricter conditions on the 2024 first. I like that we are protected against the Vinny torn achilles nightmare scenario, but I wanted something tied to our record or performance for the 2024 pick. Either way, on paper, we have a top 5 defense with Aaaron Rodgers at QB. We should be entertaining, at the very least. So I'm happy. Playoffs or everyone gets fired. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, Warfish said: For likely one year only, with this salary/cap effect: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-jets/aaron-rodgers-3745/ Rodgers said more than once this offseason alone that he knows his deal would need to be reworked and he's willing. lets just hold up on all the til wee see the $ and who knows maybe Rodgers told JD he'd do at least 2 seasons .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, slats said: Honestly expected a second this year and a second that could escalate to a first next year. This isn’t that much different. Swapping firsts is about the equivalent of the 100th pick in the draft, and they swap up from the late sixth to the late fifth this year. Hard to complain, though I’m not surprised to see them. The swap this year is annoying, but really, you have to believe the jets are ok with whichever tackle falls to 15 and the packers probably aren’t taking a T anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 https://www.instagram.com/reel/Crbp0kxLcC_/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= click it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 10 minutes ago, Klecko73isGod said: Do you have the authority to fire anyone who works for the Jets? Do you have any idea how message boards work? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost420 Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, choon328 said: This is the trade is have that has been thrown out there all off season besides Davis not being involved. I'm not sure why this is a sick to some. The dude won 2 of the last 3 MVP's and if traded last offseason he would've went for 2-3 first rd picks. If he plays in 2024 this is a gigantic win for the Jets, otherwise this is a win win situation for both teams IMO. The Packers fans will be irate. It'll be interesting to see what the Packers are doing financially, they may have paid for the higher pick next year. We could have gotten Rodgers for free and ppl around here would say we overpayes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jetswinbaby! Posted April 24, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 24, 2023 The Jets just added arguably one of the greatest football talents in their history at the most important position on the field... And we are quibbling about a couple of future draft picks for the worst drafting team of the last decade.... Rejoice, Jet fans!.... This is a Great Day!.... 10 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, SpankyJohnson said: They gave up basically -Elijah Moore - a 6th round pick and a 1 next year JD will trade down from 15 to recoup some draft capital. It's a win in my book. Elijah Moore and a 3rd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extmenace Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 Douglas values draft picks, gave up way more than he should have. Only way this makes sense is if he gets the feeling he can trade down from 15 to recoup some of the losses here. Excited to have Rodgers but not excited to see that the jets were the side that caved to get the deal done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vader Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 18 minutes ago, Bobby816 said: We just gave up a 1st, 2nd and a 3rd in essence for him. How is that JD winning this deal at all? with at least 2 years from AR and/or a Super Bowl run. Or two. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Warfish Posted April 24, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 24, 2023 6 minutes ago, bicketybam said: 14 minutes ago, Warfish said: So much for "Jets had all the leverage, GB will take what we give them", because that comp is alot. 1. We move down in the first in 2023 from 13 to 15 2. We lose a 2023 2nd Rounder 3. We lose a 2023 6th Rounder 4. We lose a 2024 1st Rounder (lets be honest, unless he gets hurt early in the year, he easily plays 65% in 2023) 1. We gain Aaron Rodgers. 2. We gain a 2023 5th So much for the "no first rounders" narrative, and "it should be cheap, because leverage" narrative, this is a pretty huge price to pay for a likely 1-year rental @ $50 million+ in salary per season for the next several seasons, cap space wise. We now have 1 pick in the 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th and 6th to work with, draft wise. Man, we sure better hope all these risky moves pay off, or it's going to be one rough couple years from 2024 onwards. This reeks of desperation. So you're happy, right? Me too! I'm ambivalent, same as I was when this was first rumored. It's a one-year desperation play: 1. Try and win enough in 2023 to save everyones jobs 2. Gain one year to either fix Zach (lol) or find another QB.....without our #1 in 2024 (lol, lol). 3. Pay the piper (cap wise) in 2024-2026 post-Rodgers, unless in a miracle he plays 2 years. If we win a Super Bowl, it was more then worth it. If we don't, it likely wasn't. But at least 2023 will be more fun to watch than any year since 2015. Or it should be, if the 40 year old QB stays healthy. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, JiF said: Rumors were Corey Davis was going to be involved, wonder if that means he’s sticking. Keep Corey Davis at this point, draft OLineman 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 Just now, Augustiniak said: The swap this year is annoying, but really, you have to believe the jets are ok with whichever tackle falls to 15 and the packers probably aren’t taking a T anyway I do not believe the Jets are locked in at OT, and could see them trading further down from there. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 1 minute ago, Beerfish said: Predictable response for the dudes that thought we were getting him for a 3rd round pick. When did I ever say that? Don't make sh*t up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcronin Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen no huddle said: He's 39 and completely healthy. I'm a bills fan and I'm telling you with your wrs and a good draft you're legit super bowl contenders I overreacted because I thought we gave up a first, too. We swapped firsts. Still, he looked like the walking dead, and had the absolute worst year of his career. No team like ours is ever one player away from Super Bowl. No way. I want to believe you so, so much. Now, maybe we were 4 or 5 players away? That I'd buy. Maybe it'll be Aaron Rodgers, Breece Hall, Lazard, new OT or improved Becton, and a LB TBD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 8 minutes ago, Dcat said: what? Is this some kind of new math? Missing 3 games, maybe 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 27 minutes ago, bicketybam said: 35 minutes ago, Warfish said: So much for "Jets had all the leverage, GB will take what we give them", because that comp is alot. 1. We move down in the first in 2023 from 13 to 15 2. We lose a 2023 2nd Rounder 3. We lose a 2023 6th Rounder 4. We lose a 2024 1st Rounder (lets be honest, unless he gets hurt early in the year, he easily plays 65% in 2023) 1. We gain Aaron Rodgers. 2. We gain a 2023 5th So much for the "no first rounders" narrative, and "it should be cheap, because leverage" narrative, this is a pretty huge price to pay for a likely 1-year rental @ $50 million+ in salary per season for the next several seasons, cap space wise. We now have 1 pick in the 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th and 6th to work with, draft wise. Man, we sure better hope all these risky moves pay off, or it's going to be one rough couple years from 2024 onwards. This reeks of desperation. So you're happy, right? Me too! Some are never happy. Ever 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, Guilhermezmc said: A trade down has to be coming, we have like 3 picks in the draft You sure about that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Averagejetsfan1421 Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 21 minutes ago, Bobby816 said: Massive overpay. We gave up a quality 2nd a swap of 1st rounders which equates to a 3rd rounder in value. And what will 99% be a 1st rounder in 2024. All with no protection if he retires after this next season. So we traded a 2nd, 3rd, and a 2024 1st for a 39 year old for possibly only 1 year. Awful deal. JD lost big time. Jets fans will never be happy, how is a second which we have another one right behind it and a conditional pick next year which should be a late pick, overpay? Think it was a fair trade especially with getting a late round pick back that we didn’t have 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 Just now, CrazyCarl40 said: Do you have any idea how message boards work? Yes. We don't have the authority to fire anyone. Do you know how message boards work? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 Just now, slats said: I do not believe the Jets are locked in at OT, and could see them trading further down from there. They have their 1st and 2nd, 4th and 5th round picks. Is that it as of now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 The 2nd this year hurts NGL. I hope Rodgers is motivated ??♂️ 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OilfieldJet Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 Wrong metric for the 2024 pick, but what the hell, I’m all in. Go JETS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reasonable Jets Fan Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 Don't like that they gave up all the better picks... 13 and 42... Seems like an overpay... Plus add in a first in 2024... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntDice Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: I don't think it's that bad, but it certainly is not that good either. The conditions on a 2024 1st sound ridiculously easy and no give back when he retires in December? I’d imagine the jets and Rodgers talked a lot and he said at least 2 years. There’s no way you trade for him without that discussion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, JiF said: Rumors were Corey Davis was going to be involved, wonder if that means he’s sticking. I’d assume he gets cut to make room for the new QB, no? They have to do some money maneuvering now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darnold Schwarzenegger Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 Ouch. Jd got fleeced. Hope 1 year of rodgers is worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 So we basically just swapped first round picks lmaoooJD is a master 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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nj meadowlands Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 Jets country, let's ride 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 look if rogers wins us some games no one cares about the next year draft pick whatever. I just dont see why we had to give them nexst year 1. If we did not then say GB doesnt trade. Ok fine. How many days of rogers in camp over there until they say yes you knwo what I mean/.? idk i hope this works out but seems like we spend a little too much on draft capitol. But then again we have rogers now who i expect elevates the whole team. I want to see how draft night goes. Maybe Joe can make some moves. Overpaying for rogers is not the worst thing int he world but didnt seem likely. GB def thinks they got the better end of the deal I want to see the number I really hope GB is takign some of that contract on. Depending on how much will make this easier to deal with. But if we are not paying all the money and giving up next year 1 for him. it just stinks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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