Jetsfan80 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 32 minutes ago, Pac said: Boo hoo. Suck it up buttercups. We are undefeated this year and I have a sneaky suspicion we're about to eat up the offseason. lol. No amount of optimism can overcome our lack of cap space and no 2nd rounder. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Imma move to Indiana to be @IndianaJet's neighbor. Just gonna ignore the Jets all offseason and follow him around to see what kind shenaningans he gets into with his winnings. Far more entertaining than whatever will happen between now and August. Running it back babyyyyy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 i have no problem with this. if you call the year wash because of OL injuries, Rodgers and Wilson, why throw anyone overboard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 7 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: lol. No amount of optimism can overcome our lack of cap space and no 2nd rounder. They can create 60 mil in cap space with little effort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 5 minutes ago, Bugg said: He was; hangs onto the ball forever, coupled with the Panicky Pete running backward thing. But the OL was mostly terrible. Would think a new OL coach is in order and then some. But guess again; off a BS win, Bob Salad is bringing back his buddies. Accountability? What makes people think that Downing is "his buddy?" I guess he overlapped with Carter in Seattle, but I don't think anybody but Carter worked with Downing. Am I wrong? I don't find this remotely surprising. Expect them back, but I don't see this precluding a change in OLine coach if someone they like is out there and available. This saves the inevitable reports of "Dante Scarnecchia refused to interview" "Tom Cable refused to interview." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 21 minutes ago, football guy said: Finding a replacement willing would have been difficult given the lame duck situation and structure, but Saleh is almost too committed to his guys and the status quo of his coaching staff. Daboll wasted no time... saw an issue with his offensive line and he fired the OL coach. Saw an issue with special teams and fired the ST coach. It doesn't have to be so personal, nor does it have to be an indictment on the guy's ability to coach... but if its not working out in the current situation have to make changes. Daboll is a professional HC. Saleh ended up being a clown shoes hire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcoops Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Sounds like the assistant offensive quality control coach and the guy that laminates the playsheets could be in trouble. Every other coach who guided our historically inept offensive production appears safe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 2 minutes ago, mrcoops said: Sounds like the assistant offensive quality control coach and the guy that laminates the playsheets could be in trouble. Every other coach who guided our historically inept offensive production appears safe. "Nat, that run up the middle every 1st down is defense successfully 97.3% of the time and averages less than a yard". YOU'RE FIRED! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 8 Author Share Posted January 8 Saleh has a lot of that Herm to him where he brings in otherwise unemployable sycophants that‘ll never challenge him on anything. Never ends well. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 1 hour ago, Adoni Beast said: No other choice, unfortunately. It's a lame duck regime....no one good is going to consider coming here for that, unless it's a guy who just got fired and is looking for a job and possibly rehab their rep a bit. It’s the opposite, actually. It’s a very deliberate choice. The worst part about this year is we dated the hot crazy chick without being able to **** her and were just left with crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrebetfan80 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 47 minutes ago, football guy said: Finding a replacement willing would have been difficult given the lame duck situation and structure, but Saleh is almost too committed to his guys and the status quo of his coaching staff. Daboll wasted no time... saw an issue with his offensive line and he fired the OL coach. Saw an issue with special teams and fired the ST coach. It doesn't have to be so personal, nor does it have to be an indictment on the guy's ability to coach... but if its not working out in the current situation have to make changes. His loyalty is one of the many reasons he may not be cut out to be a HC. Have to do what's right for the team at some point. Carter i would have let go, or at least demoted and tried to bring in another OL coach. With smith fired, Ledford from ATL would have been a really intriguing option. They've done well improving that OL and running game the last few years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 If it makes sense, do the opposite. The Jets’ motto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Not sure why anyone is surprised and honestly, who are you going to find to upgrade this offseason? You just turned over the offensive staff and lost your star QB on the 4th play, if you fire everyone again, who's coming into fix it? And dont look now but the last offensive coaching staff you fired, just led their team to the playoffs, produced back to back OROY (well, maybe Stroud but a record breaker nonetheless) and had Jets fans pining for Carson Wentz yesterday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Ya'll are out to lunch. The one and only reason we are not preparing for the playoffs is that our 40 year old 1 and a half feet out of the league QB got hurt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 That’s mint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 1 hour ago, SomebodytoAnybody47 said: Probably all the injuries. It's probably a combo of that and knowing you won't find someone for a lame duck season with an OL that needs 3 new starters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 51 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: lol. No amount of optimism can overcome our lack of cap space and no 2nd rounder. The Jets should be able to free up close to $50-60m, that should be enough. I would imagine Douglas will use a lot of the $100m sitting in 2025 as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 19 minutes ago, Jets Voice of Reason said: It’s the opposite, actually. It’s a very deliberate choice. The worst part about this year is we dated the hot crazy chick without being able to **** her and were just left with crazy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 1 hour ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Daboll is a professional HC. Saleh ended up being a clown shoes hire. With worse QBs than Daboll, Saleh had a better record and beat better teams this season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE BARON Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 2 hours ago, Wit said: I mean if that’s the case then it’s clear they think Zach is the problem Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app QB *IS* the problem. With a healthy QB the Jets would have been in the playoff hunt. Not only has he been an erratic passer, Zach makes the offensive line look worse than they are. With a wacky QB, it is harder for a lineman to play in a zone blocking scheme. As far as OC, QB was once again, the problem. Hackett was not signed on to design a very specific offense that would work for Wilson. He was invited along to hold a clipboard for Rodgers. If AR has not gone down, the offense would have been a completely different animal. As for Wilson... He can actually produce and even awe if he is centered in an offense that is built and designed around what he does best and what he cant do. Been saying this since I saw his first three games. He needs to be an an offense with an aggressive man blocking scheme up front. Add to that, a lot of lateral motion and plenty of misdirection in the running game. Counter Gap - counter trey. Much fewer timing patterns and many more pass plays that take longer to develop and involve multiple cuts/moves per each WR. WR's like Ocho Cinco that do better without having to run strict routs. You'll also want a lot of play action and a powerful RB that can do it in the A gaps. Consider a modernized version of the Joe Bugel/1980's Redskins offense. Put ZW in that offense and he'll be amazing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 I think this is a mistake. We should upgrade from Keith Carter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Straw Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Becton sucking has more to do with him not playing football for 2 years than Kevin Carter's coaching. I can't tell you whether Carter is a good or bad coach, but the offensive line's problems run far deeper than the coach. I'm not "high" on Becton, but I do think he's salvageable as a right tackle or swing tackle. If he wants to come back at $6M a year and compete at RT, I'd be open to it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 15 minutes ago, JetsFanatic said: With worse QBs than Daboll Saleh had a better record and beat better teams this season. Daboll is twice the HC that Saleh is. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 When one of my kids is whining about not finding the remote or Nintendo etc, I always ask where have they looked and they inevitably respond “nowhere”. My absolute favorite response to that is semi mockingly telling them “I’ve tried nothing and I’m all out of ideas!” It’s not quite as fun when your favorite teams coaching staff can have the same teaching moment as my 6 year old. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BigRy56 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 The OL looked much better once a professional QB in Siemien took over. I'm not saying I wouldn't make a change at OL coach but it is so painfully clear to me that the QB is the root of every problem on offense. Why they took so long to get past Zach & Boyle is the biggest problem I have 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rex-n-effect Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 2 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said: SWEET! Bring them all back! We're 1-0 in 2024. The first of many wins. Enjoy this win all offseason. Jets are undefeated for the first eight months of 2024. Sean Payton living in agony each week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 2 hours ago, T0mShane said: JFC this team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen X Jet Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: Saleh has a lot of that Herm to him where he brings in otherwise unemployable sycophants that‘ll never challenge him on anything. Never ends well. Dick Curl 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 being friends with the QB is more important than being a good OC being friends with the head coach is more important than being a good OL coach The NY Friends!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachStepdad Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 3 hours ago, SR24 said: Dear lord please let Woody Johnson end up on the flight logs Epstein helps the jets ????? YES 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sciond Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 3 hours ago, T0mShane said: Well that sucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 At least let Downing call the plays. Couldn’t be worse than Hackett. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 RUN IT BACK 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 From Woody on down, everyone in this organization is a complete moron. I don't know how I can continue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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