Osemele suffers "potentially significant shoulder injury" in practice today

[thshadow]

I didn't see this posted.  From Cmini's article:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27761284/jets-sam-darnold-says-feels-ready-risk-life

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In other injury news, left guard Kelechi Osemele suffered a potentially significant shoulder injury in practice. He likely would be replaced by Alex Lewis.

 

 

[BurnleyJet]

Sorry to hear that on a personal level. On a team level this may be good, because he’s stunk the place up.

[Fantasy Island]

addition by subtraction.

[jetscrazey]

Another cap space eater not contributing.

[RutgersJetFan]

Well that was a 5th round pick well spent. 

[jeremy2020]

His backup may be better

[New York Mick]

Why do some fans always think the back up is better?

[Jetster]

Wow. When you look at the highest paid players on this team & the contribution they make overall, it's easy to see why we're in a whole lotta suck. Trumaine Johnson (12) Leonard Williams (14.2) KO (10.2)  Beachum (9.5) Kalil (8.4) Quincy Enunwa (9) Avery Williamson (8)

71.3 Million in salary cap space being eaten up by 6 guys, 4 who are useless & 2 on injured reserve. This is going to be a much longer turn around than anyone of us expected. I'm sure that factors into guys heads like Bell, Mosely, Adams, when they look around the NFL. These guys are part of a pathetic team overall. This isn't Rex getting Manginis team. 

You guys expecting Gase & JD to be miracle workers are out of your minds. 

[fullblast]

31 minutes ago, New York Mick said:

Why do some fans always think the back up is better?

Brady trauma. 

[jgb]

13 minutes ago, Jetster said:

Wow. When you look at the highest paid players on this team & the contribution they make overall, it's easy to see why we're in a whole lotta suck. Trumaine Johnson (12) Leonard Williams (14.2) KO (10.2)  Beachum (9.5) Kalil (8.4) Quincy Enunwa (9) Avery Williamson (8)

71.3 Million in salary cap space being eaten up by 6 guys, 4 who are useless & 2 on injured reserve. This is going to be a much longer turn around than anyone of us expected. I'm sure that factors into guys heads like Bell, Mosely, Adams, when they look around the NFL. These guys are part of a pathetic team overall. This isn't Rex getting Manginis team. 

You guys expecting Gase & JD to be miracle workers are out of your minds. 

Reality is setting in for most everyone now. We are going to be pretty bad for awhile. The thing we have to root for now is Sam to continue to grow and confirm he is a FQB.

[Barry McCockinner]

This guy looked like a total beast run blocker in the preseason. Haven't paid attention to him in the regular season so it's a little surprising to hear people say how trash he's been. I guess it's not that surprising giving how terrible the unit has been as a whole

[dbatesman]

cool

[deucebag]

53 minutes ago, New York Mick said:

Why do some fans always think the back up is better?

Osemele has been terrible, he may be a huge strong beast, but he has no mobility left.  

[New York Mick]

3 minutes ago, deucebag said:

Osemele has been terrible, he may be a huge strong beast, but he has no mobility left.  

 I never said that he was good.  I said some fans always assume the back up is better if the starter stinks. 

[ZachEY]

1 hour ago, Jetster said:

This is going to be a much longer turn around than anyone of us expected.

Oh?

[Dcat]

2 hours ago, New York Mick said:

Why do some fans always think the back up is better?

Because it is the Jets.

Duh.

[Integrity28]

[Pac]

It will be 2050 before we win 10 games...

You guys are funny.

[joewilly12]

Next man up. 

[rangerous]

7 hours ago, BurnleyJet said:

Sorry to hear that on a personal level. On a team level this may be good, because he’s stunk the place up.

can't disagree.  he did not appear to be the talented  and nasty player he was advertised to be.  they may as well have kept carpenter.

[rangerous]

2 hours ago, Jetster said:

Wow. When you look at the highest paid players on this team & the contribution they make overall, it's easy to see why we're in a whole lotta suck. Trumaine Johnson (12) Leonard Williams (14.2) KO (10.2)  Beachum (9.5) Kalil (8.4) Quincy Enunwa (9) Avery Williamson (8)

71.3 Million in salary cap space being eaten up by 6 guys, 4 who are useless & 2 on injured reserve. This is going to be a much longer turn around than anyone of us expected. I'm sure that factors into guys heads like Bell, Mosely, Adams, when they look around the NFL. These guys are part of a pathetic team overall. This isn't Rex getting Manginis team. 

You guys expecting Gase & JD to be miracle workers are out of your minds. 

these things kind of sneak up on a team.  i know i'm preaching to the choir but it all comes down to bad drafting by idzik/mac.

[sec101row23]

14 minutes ago, rangerous said:

can't disagree.  he did not appear to be the talented  and nasty player he was advertised to be.  they may as well have kept carpenter.

Finding and acquiring players that fit your particular scheme and skill set that you are looking for is critical.  It’s critical when drafting a guy and it’s critical when acquiring FA’s.  The very good to great players in the league are scheme diverse for the most part, but the vast majority of the players in this league need to be in the right situation to succeed.  I don’t think what they are asking Osemele to do matches his skill set.  He’s a more of a mauler and they’re asking him to adapt to this zone blocking scheme and he’s struggling.  Didn’t seem like a good fit from the beginning. 

[Barry McCockinner]

7 minutes ago, sec101row23 said:

Finding and acquiring players that fit your particular scheme and skill set that you are looking for is critical.  It’s critical when drafting a guy and it’s critical when acquiring FA’s.  The very good to great players in the league are scheme diverse for the most part, but the vast majority of the players in this league need to be in the right situation to succeed.  I don’t think what they are asking Osemele to do matches his skill set.  He’s a more of a mauler and they’re asking him to adapt to this zone blocking scheme and he’s struggling.  Didn’t seem like a good fit from the beginning. 

Maybe the coaches should make their scheme fit the players instead of trying to force them into something they aren't good at? That's what a good coach would do. The entire o-line sucks at whatever scheme it is they've been trying to use.

[sec101row23]

4 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

Maybe the coaches should make their scheme fit the players instead of trying to force them into something they aren't good at? That's what a good coach would do. The entire o-line sucks at whatever scheme it is they've been trying to use.

If that’s the case, it doesn’t matter what they run.  

[Barry McCockinner]

Just now, sec101row23 said:

If that’s the case, it doesn’t matter what they run.  

The o-line wasn't this bad last year.

[bitonti]

3 hours ago, Jetster said:

 

You guys expecting Gase & JD to be miracle workers are out of your minds. 

I expect Joe Douglas to be able to SIGN A PLACE KICKER, for example

or NOT SPEND 8 mil on a 36 year old Center with a trick neck 

I also expect Adam Gase so called QB Guru to score more than 1 td on offense through 3 weeks, even with backup QBs.

he's running the wildcat you guys 

Jets fans are experts at playing the patience card

meanwhile they are pissing on our back and calling it rain 

[peebag]

Whose turn is it in the barrel? 

[rangerous]

50 minutes ago, sec101row23 said:

Finding and acquiring players that fit your particular scheme and skill set that you are looking for is critical.  It’s critical when drafting a guy and it’s critical when acquiring FA’s.  The very good to great players in the league are scheme diverse for the most part, but the vast majority of the players in this league need to be in the right situation to succeed.  I don’t think what they are asking Osemele to do matches his skill set.  He’s a more of a mauler and they’re asking him to adapt to this zone blocking scheme and he’s struggling.  Didn’t seem like a good fit from the beginning. 

that could be.  that just makes mac even more of a moron because he must have had some idea gase was going to zone block.

[#27TheDominator]

1 hour ago, Pac said:

It will be 2050 before we win 10 games...

You guys are funny.

You can't expect any different.

1 hour ago, rangerous said:

these things kind of sneak up on a team.  i know i'm preaching to the choir but it all comes down to bad drafting by idzik/mac.

There is not a single player left on an Idzik contract.  The rookie deals for every player that he drafted expired.  It is not an Idzik problem.  He left the team a ton of money.  Any non-sh*thead could/would have completely rebuilt the team by 2017.

[14 in Green]

3 hours ago, Jetster said:

Wow. When you look at the highest paid players on this team & the contribution they make overall, it's easy to see why we're in a whole lotta suck. Trumaine Johnson (12) Leonard Williams (14.2) KO (10.2)  Beachum (9.5) Kalil (8.4) Quincy Enunwa (9) Avery Williamson (8)

71.3 Million in salary cap space being eaten up by 6 guys, 4 who are useless & 2 on injured reserve. This is going to be a much longer turn around than anyone of us expected. I'm sure that factors into guys heads like Bell, Mosely, Adams, when they look around the NFL. These guys are part of a pathetic team overall. This isn't Rex getting Manginis team. 

You guys expecting Gase & JD to be miracle workers are out of your minds. 

Sad but true,  and you're usually the optimist around here, which makes this even more depressing....

[rangerous]

2 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said:

You can't expect any different.

There is not a single player left on an Idzik contract.  The rookie deals for every player that he drafted expired.  It is not an Idzik problem.  He left the team a ton of money.  Any non-sh*thead could/would have completely rebuilt the team by 2017.

yes and no.  it's an idzik and mac problem because they had six horrendous drafts.  you're right any of those idzik players would be off their rookie deals by now but at least a couple of players besides enunwa or even dozier should've been worthy of getting a contract, and some of those should still be with the jets.  

[T0mShane]

Have we considered that maybe god just wants Sam Darnold dead as part of some Final Destination sh*t?

[T0mShane]

4 hours ago, Jetster said:

Trumaine Johnson (12) Leonard Williams (14.2) KO (10.2)  Beachum (9.5) Kalil (8.4) Quincy Enunwa (9) Avery Williamson (8)

Rayoff ploster

[More Cowbell]

4 hours ago, New York Mick said:

Why do some fans always think the back up is better?

In the case of pur C it's  true, might be true for G. Can his backup be much worse?

[freestater]

1 hour ago, sec101row23 said:

Finding and acquiring players that fit your particular scheme and skill set that you are looking for is critical.  It’s critical when drafting a guy and it’s critical when acquiring FA’s.  The very good to great players in the league are scheme diverse for the most part, but the vast majority of the players in this league need to be in the right situation to succeed.  I don’t think what they are asking Osemele to do matches his skill set.  He’s a more of a mauler and they’re asking him to adapt to this zone blocking scheme and he’s struggling.  Didn’t seem like a good fit from the beginning. 

I think that Bell prefers a zone blocking scheme. If our rb would do better behind it, then I'd support the idea of sticking with it. If I'm wrong on that, then it's just a coach being stubborn. If Gase is really an offensive guru, then he should be able to utilize players' strengths.