Popular Post oatmeal Posted November 7, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2023 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 What’s JD’s record? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fantasy Island Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 He was eating pretzels and drinking Four Loko last night before he fell asleep in the 2nd quarter. Time to clean house. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted November 7, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2023 Joe Douglas is an idiot. Look at the Fins’ WRs and look at the Jets’. There is zero speed at the WR position. Good NFL offenses tend to have a lid lifter. The Jets have none. GW: can run well but he’s not a burner. He wins more with route running and change of direction ability. Cobb: LOL Lizard man: LOL Gipson: Pretty fast but more of a shifty slot guy 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 44 minutes ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said: Joe Douglas is an idiot. Look at the Fins’ WRs and look at the Jets’. There is zero speed at the WR position. Good NFL offenses tend to have a lid lifter. The Jets have none. GW: can run well but he’s not a burner. He wins more with route running and change of direction ability. Cobb: LOL Lizard man: LOL Gipson: Pretty fast but more of a shifty slot guy I agree with all that but GW. He ran a 4.38. That's pretty fast. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Joe D worst move of all is signing Quinnen Willimas to a 100 million dollar contract and through 8 games, he has 0 sacks and 0 game changing plays. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billo83 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 11 hours ago, Prodigal Syndicate said: Congrats to Joe Douglas on the huge accomplishment. 50th loss of this regime. 24-50 For reference Big Macc final record as GM of the Jets 24-40 Would you rather have Mac back? I wouldn't. Say what you want about JD but this team is more talented that anything Mac put together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 I'm firmly in the camp that we could do much worse than Douglas. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 As I've said before Douglas does about half the things you do as a GM at a very high great level. About another quarter and not so great and has been totally atrocious to the point of it deep sixing the team at the last quarter. He has big blind spots that take him years to actually see what is happening with he team. He took a costly and massive gamble with Aaron Rodgers, he gambled every thing on that and had zero legit back up plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 22 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: Joe D worst move of all is signing Quinnen Willimas to a 100 million dollar contract and through 8 games, he has 0 sacks and 0 game changing plays. That's laughable. JD's worst move was drafting Zach Wilson, easily. QW isn't even close to his worst move. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, Hex said: That's laughable. JD's worst move was drafting Zach Wilson, easily. QW isn't even close to his worst move. Zach Wilson isnt making 100 million dollars. Zach Wilson can be cut now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 hour ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said: Joe Douglas is an idiot. Look at the Fins’ WRs and look at the Jets’. There is zero speed at the WR position. Good NFL offenses tend to have a lid lifter. The Jets have none. GW: can run well but he’s not a burner. He wins more with route running and change of direction ability. Cobb: LOL Lizard man: LOL Gipson: Pretty fast but more of a shifty slot guy Mecole, but we traded him (though, tbf, it's not like he was that much of a WR to begin with). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darnold Schwarzenegger Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: Zach Wilson isnt making 100 million dollars. Zach Wilson can be cut now. The fact that ZW is still on the roster is way more egregious than paying QW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 7 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: Zach Wilson isnt making 100 million dollars. Zach Wilson can be cut now. At least Q had a monster season. The defense isn't even close to an issue right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 hour ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said: Joe Douglas is an idiot. Look at the Fins’ WRs and look at the Jets’. There is zero speed at the WR position. Good NFL offenses tend to have a lid lifter. The Jets have none. GW: can run well but he’s not a burner. He wins more with route running and change of direction ability. Cobb: LOL Lizard man: LOL Gipson: Pretty fast but more of a shifty slot guy JSN just had his best game as a pro and lead the Seahawks in all receiving categories last week. That will be his biggest mistake passing on JSN. Along with the awful Quinnen contract. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: JSN just had his best game as a pro and lead the Seahawks in all receiving categories last week. That will be his biggest mistake passing on JSN. Along with the awful Quinnen contract. 6 receptions for 63 yds and no TDs in a 37-3 loss? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Anyone who says JD is a "good" GM is delusional at this point. Is he a "bad" GM? I would argue no. HE IS AN AVERAGE GM.......lets face facts. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Just now, kevinc855 said: Anyone who says JD is a "good" GM is delusional at this point. Is he a "bad" GM? I would argue no. HE IS AN AVERAGE GM.......lets face facts. I think he's a good GM but, even if you think he's average, that's still FAR BETTER than our previous GMs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 17 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Mecole, but we traded him (though, tbf, it's not like he was that much of a WR to begin with). Much like the Jets' coaches, I forgot about him. 🫠 They didn't use him at all, then did nothing to replace his speed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 7 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: 6 receptions for 63 yds and no TDs in a 37-3 loss? Yup. Better the DK Metcalf and Tyler Lockett. Pretty crazy he is out producing guys like that in only his 8th career game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Goodman Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 8 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: I think he's a good GM but, even if you think he's average, that's still FAR BETTER than our previous GMs. Gotta disagree here. Douglas has not shown to be a better GM than Tannenbaum. It’s actually not even close. Better record, better draft picks, better free agent signings, better coach hires. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, Saul Goodman said: Gotta disagree here. Douglas has not shown to be a better GM than Tannenbaum. It’s actually not even close. Better record, better draft picks, better free agent signings, better coach hires. I was talking about our more recent GMs but I still think JD is better than Tanny (who couldn't wait to trade away draft picks, which led to the team falling apart). These are Tanny's drafts: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDown Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 When you break it down, there has been more bad than good with Joe Douglas. Ideally, the Jets replace him. Realistically, I don't see the Jets attracting anyone better. More than likely, they would hire a complete buffoon like Mac again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 40 minutes ago, Biggs said: I'm firmly in the camp that we could do much worse than Douglas. He's probably in the top half of GMs in the NFL. Just my opinion. JD is the guy in charge of "shopping for the groceries" as Parcells used to say. The question is whether those groceries are being used and cooked correctly by the coaches, and if some of those groceries were dropped on the floor (AVT, McGovern, Aaron Rodgers, etc.) on the way to the refrigerator. I'd have to imagine this team would look better on offense with AR, with AVT and McGovern playing, etc. If that's true then this would be a better than 4-4 team right now. Not sure who or how we ascribe injury blame but it's a factor in a GM evaluation. The other really big problem IMO is that Hackett was clearly a hire to bring in AR and Lazard, Cobb were signed to appease AR and give him a level of comfort and familiarity. With no AR those are all looking like bad moves. Cobb's biggest plays of the year were one 2-point conversion reception and an illegal block in the preseason that injured a Giant. Lazard can't catch. Nate Hackett is coaching like his father Paul and like the guy Denver fired. At the end of last season the Jets were a middling team with a very good D, a couple promising pieces on O, and a QB holding the team back from doing better. The missing piece was a capable QB and JD saw that and fixed that.... It lasted 4 plays. So now the Jets look just like they did at the end of last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonCorleone Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 56 minutes ago, Biggs said: I'm firmly in the camp that we could do much worse than Douglas. To me, his record says it all. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, DoubleDown said: When you break it down, there has been more bad than good with Joe Douglas. Ideally, the Jets replace him. Realistically, I don't see the Jets attracting anyone better. More than likely, they would hire a complete buffoon like Mac again. So you believe the Jets are more than likely to hire a much worse GM than Douglas but _also_ think it would be ideal for them to replace him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDown Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Barry McCockinner said: So you believe the Jets are more than likely to hire a much worse GM than Douglas but _also_ think it would be ideal for them to replace him. Maybe I wasn't clear enough. In an ideal world, you replace Joe Douglas because he simply hasn't performed well enough. In the real world, I have some reservations about replacing him because I do not trust that the Jets can hire someone better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 12 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: I was talking about our more recent GMs but I still think JD is better than Tanny (who couldn't wait to trade away draft picks, which led to the team falling apart). These are Tanny's drafts: The Jets were a good team in 2009 and 2010, because of the Drafts in 2006 and 2007. Mangold, D'Brick, David Harris and Revis were 4 critical pieces, 2 on O and 2 on D, to a ground n' pound team with an excellent defense. I've been very hopeful that the Jets similarly landed foundational pieces on O and D again in 2022, with GW and Breece on O and Sauce and JJ on D. Other than QB, my opinion is that the biggest problem on O is that Becton and AVT have not been the consistent and reliable guys that Mangold and Brick were. For 4 years JD has been trying to build an OLine and it simply hasn't worked. It's ALWAYS ranked in the bottom third of the league. Nothing works, neither rushing nor passing, if the OLine isn't working. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 hour ago, chirorob said: I agree with all that but GW. He ran a 4.38. That's pretty fast. I'm aware. He doesn't play that fast on a football field, which is what matters. Do you know who also ran a 4.38? Like I said, he runs well, but he's not a burner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 32 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: I think he's a good GM but, even if you think he's average, that's still FAR BETTER than our previous GMs. Tanny could run circles around JD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdoublee Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 If JD is fired, be prepared for the new GM to get rid of popular players and start all over again. They almost always do this. That said, I've lost confidence in Joe Douglas. He had arguably the best draft in Jets history, however, he will be remembered for his failures at QB and OL as well as signing Aarod's scrubby friends who are a net negative. His stubbornness will get him fired. Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 2 hours ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said: Joe Douglas is an idiot. There is zero speed at the WR position Cobb: LOL Lizard man: LOL Well, JD is only partially to blame for these blunders. It’s also this guy’s fault: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfmartin Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Zach Wilson isnt making 100 million dollars. Zach Wilson can be cut now.No he can’t. His draft status (2nd overall pick) guaranteed his money. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Syndicate Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 44 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: I think he's a good GM but, even if you think he's average, that's still FAR BETTER than our previous GMs. Good Gms don't miss the playoffs 4, now potentially 5 years in a row with 0 winning seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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