****OFFICIAL JETS VS SAINTS ATTRITION BOWL GAME THREAD****

[Jets4Life1979]

people gotta stop with the zach blaming on here.....not every throw is gonna be 100% perfect but im sorry ty johnson has gotta make that catch.....too many people on the wilson is a bust train already

[HawkeyeJet]

2 minutes ago, sec101row23 said:

That’s where ball placement needs to be better.  Sure, Johnson could have caught it, but that’s a 20 yard gain if it’s thrown correctly.  

It’s a 5 yard gain regardless, ball placement or not.  Johnson dropped a perfectly placed ball the previous drive. The failure to convert a 1st down on that is 99.9% on Johnson.

[BallinPB]

If Mike White threw that pass it would’ve been a TD. 

[Jetluv58]

2 minutes ago, Irish Jet said:

He just never puts it where it should be. Never.

As much as I’m Pro-Zach I have to agree. And it’s depressing.

[Cut Jet Penalty Makers]

2 minutes ago, More Cowbell said:

I would have been an acrobatic catch, the ball was like 2 feet behind him

True..a decent high school QB makes that throw every time...ZW is just plain awful.

[JTJet]

Just now, funaz said:

99.5% qbs make that pass but we got Zach


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That's not true at all. 

Take your Pre-Jet hatred of Zach and go jerk off to old football cards of Browning Nagle. 

[Smashmouth]

3 minutes ago, IndianaJet said:

Johnson has to catch that. 

Wilson has to throw a better pass to a wide open guy 3 yards past the LOS. 

Both of these statements can be right. 

even if he catches it the pass was so bad would he have gotten the first down ? I was in the other room so I missed the distance on the play.

[Big_Slick]

2 minutes ago, ultraJETfan said:

Elite player grabs that and still gets yac

JAG QB's make that throw all day.

[Smashmouth]

Zach Wilson stinks

[undertow]

This isn't pee wee football guys you can't throw the ball two yards behind a receiver on a 5 yard pass. lol  That's not progress.

[Snell41]

I so badly want to optimistic on Zach Wilson, but everything is harder than it needs to be with him so far. Where is the accuracy he is supposed to have? I don't want to be that guy that says Wilson sucks... but so far, he sucks.

Honestly watching Zach reminds me of what Hackenberg would’ve looked like if he got his shot to start.


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[T0mShane]

1 minute ago, Hal N of Provo said:

NFL recievers only catch in a shoe box shaped area?  That’s like one ball length behind ideal 

He should have caught it. I’d imagine that it gets to be a mental deal for receivers when the ball is constantly thrown to unpredictable spots.

[fltflo]

Come on he was wide open , Zake’s ball placement has to improve it’s been terrible


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[Smashmouth]

Just now, Big_Slick said:

JAG QB's make that throw all day.

yeah but to be fair Zach has not yet reached JAG status.

[fullblast]

Davis Mills cooking against Seattle.

[HawkeyeJet]

Just now, Smashmouth said:

even if he catches it the pass was so bad would he have gotten the first down ? I was in the other room so I missed the distance on the play.

Yes he was a few yards past the marker.

[TheClashFan]

If that was Johnson's first drop of the day, we could cut him some slack because the ball was behind him.  But he also dropped a nice pass from Zach earlier.  Dude has bad hands.  I guess they have no one else healthy to put on the field?

 

[Dcat]

there is no team better than the Jets at making stars out of opposing back up TEs

[K Clue]

4 minutes ago, Guilhermezmc said:

How bad is Lamicael Perine that he can't get a job over Ty Johnson

Is he inactive again today? I would have at least thought he’d be dressed given that they’re down two RBs. 

[JTJet]

Salehs D sucks and the team is amazingly undisciplined. 

Give me back Gase. 

[sciond]

Their Johnson > Jets Johnson 

[BigRy56]

They got called for illegal formation there but great play recognition there by Echols 

[Jet_Engine1]

So, let me get this straight. 

 

After drafting in the Top 10 for the past, oh, 5 years, and Hundreds of millions of Cap Dollars, we have garbage everywhere,  on both sides of the ball?

 

 

 

[Smashmouth]

Just now, HawkeyeJet said:

Yes he was a few yards past the marker.

OK then in that case its on both of them

[JetFreak89]

I so badly want to optimistic on Zach Wilson, but everything is harder than it needs to be with him so far. Where is the accuracy he is supposed to have? I don't want to be that guy that says Wilson sucks... but so far, he sucks.

Again, this is all based on the “speed of the game” though. Since he’s come back he is making better decisions and at least knows where to go with the ball. That’s honestly the hardest part of surviving in the NFL. I’m confident that Zach will be able to improve his ball placement over the offseason and his completion percentage will go up fairly drastically. Nothings guaranteed of course.


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[sciond]

Wait  Phillips is still playing?

[Flightattendant]

2 minutes ago, Smashmouth said:

even if he catches it the pass was so bad would he have gotten the first down ? I was in the other room so I missed the distance on the play.

We'll never know because he didn't do his part. 

[Bleedin Green]

Just now, JTJet said:

Maybe a small percentage. But the overwhelming blame is Johnsons. 

If you can touch the ball with both hands, you should be able to catch it. Period. 

Fair enough, and I won't argue against the idea that Ty should've done more on that individual play.

With that said, it's a problem with a significant number of Wilson's throws, and the argument loses it's merit when each imperfect play by others leads some to the conclusion that everyone but Wilson must be to blame for his consistently terrible ball placement.  It's not a coincidence that Wilson has a significantly worse completion rate than all 3 of his backups.

[Vudu]

Taysom Hill,s finger hurts, why the **** is he out there

[Darnold Schwarzenegger]

3 minutes ago, Jets4Life1979 said:

people gotta stop with the zach blaming on here.....not every throw is gonna be 100% perfect but im sorry ty johnson has gotta make that catch.....too many people on the wilson is a bust train already

It’s cuz he looks like sh*t every week

[Smashmouth]

Just now, Jet_Engine1 said:

So, let me get this straight. 

 

After drafting in the Top 10 for the past, oh, 5 years, and Hindreds of millions of Cap Dollars, we have garbage everywhere,  on both sides of the ball?

 

 

 

that would be correct and another QB added to the carousel 

[TheNuuFaaolaExperience]

5 minutes ago, DetroitRed said:

70%  Zach

Agreed. If it hits your hands, you can catch it.

[Dcat]

all right defense, alright!

[ScarletKnight89]

It's 3rd and 24. There is no reason the Saints should be able to get a first down. 

[TheClashFan]

Kyle! Go Vols!