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Albert Breer on the guy the Jets should've hired

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He was the guy I wanted at the time.

No idea how successful he will prove to be, but he does have success in turning round teams at the college level.

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Rhule made temple relevant and brought Baylor back like a Phoenix from the ashes. That is what is needed here, a total culture change and rebuild. Maybe JD can do it after gase is fired????

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You must let douglas pick the hc next time if you finally want alignment.  Then douglas drafts the qb and hopefully you have everyone on the same page.

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3 hours ago, T0mShane said:

Cool story, but not firing Maccagnan with Bowles was the H-bomb that ruined the current iteration of the franchise.

Cool story, but Macc hasn’t been anywhere near this team in 16 months. This is on your boy and the maroons that hired him over guys like Kliff and Rhule.

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3 hours ago, AFJF said:

Should've been Rhule all along.

 

Rhule has a much better team and they're still 1-2. They were a bad lateral away from losing this past weekend as well.  

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13 minutes ago, Augustiniak said:

You must let douglas pick the hc next time if you finally want alignment.  Then douglas drafts the qb and hopefully you have everyone on the same page.

He already wasted a 4th on a QB

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9 minutes ago, choon328 said:

Rhule has a much better team and they're still 1-2. They were a bad lateral away from losing this past weekend as well.  

Rhule is only in year 1 on the job though - Gase is on year 2, and is getting worse.

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5 minutes ago, kevinc855 said:

He already wasted a 4th on a QB

He will be the backup qb next season when they draft another one at the top of the draft.  Douglas is remaking the qb room for next season.  We just didn’t want to believe this when he drafted a qb in the 4th round, but that’s what he was doing.

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3 hours ago, T0mShane said:

Cool story, but not firing Maccagnan with Bowles was the H-bomb that ruined the current iteration of the franchise.

The 2004 Chad Pennington contract extension was the H-bomb that ruined the franchise.

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3 hours ago, T0mShane said:

Cool story, but not firing Maccagnan with Bowles was the H-bomb that ruined the current iteration of the franchise.

I blame Chris Herndon's rookie season for saving Mac. 

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I would take Matt Rhule and Joe Brady over Gase and Loggains every f**king day of the week.   It’s not even close.  

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33 minutes ago, greenwichjetfan said:

Cool story, but Macc hasn’t been anywhere near this team in 16 months. This is on your boy and the maroons that hired him over guys like Kliff and Rhule.

“Adam Gase is such pure evil that he wouldn’t let Maccagnan hire Matt Rhule” is some real galaxy brain stuff, chief.

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I wanted Rhule at the time, but many of the other comments here are correct. Macc was still a problem. The hierarchy of football operations (ownership being involved) is the true problem.

NO ONE has the opportunity for success here until they get a VP of Football Operations, with a system to scouting and analytics, that makes the true decisions. Been saying it for years.

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4 hours ago, T0mShane said:

Cool story, but not firing Maccagnan with Bowles was the H-bomb that ruined the current iteration of the franchise.

Yep. The Johnsons don't learn from their past mistakes.

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4 hours ago, AFJF said:

Should've been Rhule all along.

 

Too bad Baby Huey insisted on hiring his assistants for him.

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Johnsons didn't just miss the best candidate--they chose the worst candidate!

Just have to embrace the suck and see the humor in it at this point.

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It doesn’t matter who coaches the Jets are devoid of NFL level talent

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18 minutes ago, dbatesman said:

Too bad Baby Huey insisted on hiring his assistants for him.

I don't understand how people weren't and aren't losing their minds over this. Control over the coaching staff is virtually unheard of, but the Jets let Mike Maccagnan exercise this prerogative, as a lame duck, to put Gregg Williams in a room with Joe Vitt. People tried to make like Gase was the guy because he got Maccagnan fired, but if Gase was even a guy, he never takes the job in the first place under those conditions, because look how much damage managed to get done in those five months.

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5 hours ago, T0mShane said:

Cool story, but not firing Maccagnan with Bowles was the H-bomb that ruined the current iteration of the franchise.

Yeah, when I think "Jets" I definitely think of the Enola Gay for sure. 

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The thing about a guy like Rhule is that he is a head football coach and a culture changing proven talent.

The Jets hire coordinators, the last 3 guys essentially want nothing to do with one half of the team.  And all of them has very subpar coordiantors for the part of the team they over saw.

 

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2 hours ago, T0mShane said:

“Adam Gase is such pure evil that he wouldn’t let Maccagnan hire Matt Rhule” is some real galaxy brain stuff, chief.

“Adam Gase is a good coach and widely liked” has been your mantra for the last year and half. You defended the owners hiring him for this reason. Talk about galaxy brain stuff.

Convenient for you to now switch sides and blame the owners for not firing macc, but still no blame for Gase who you believe is coaching to where the game is going.

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6 hours ago, AFJF said:

Should've been Rhule all along.

 

Don't.... just don't. Not right now. 

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Rhule was happy to work for a new owner, in David tepper.

 

I don't know about Tepper's football acumen, but he's a legend in the hedge fund game. 

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The miss that really set the team back was hanging on to Bowles a little too long and missing out Kyle Shanahan. Man I wanted him as coach.

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3 hours ago, Waka Flocka Flacco said:

The 2004 Chad Pennington contract extension was the H-bomb that ruined the franchise.

Joe Namath's pact with Satan is what was...

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2 hours ago, Waka Flocka Flacco said:

I don't understand how people weren't and aren't losing their minds over this. Control over the coaching staff is virtually unheard of, but the Jets let Mike Maccagnan exercise this prerogative, as a lame duck, to put Gregg Williams in a room with Joe Vitt. People tried to make like Gase was the guy because he got Maccagnan fired, but if Gase was even a guy, he never takes the job in the first place under those conditions, because look how much damage managed to get done in those five months.

Even for the Jets, it was jaw-dropping. Imagine being a successful college coach, getting courted by several NFL teams, and hearing Mike ******* Maccagnan say he’ll only hire you if he can pick your coordinators. 

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3 hours ago, Waka Flocka Flacco said:

The 2004 Chad Pennington contract extension was the H-bomb that ruined the franchise.

Actually, passing on Marino is what ruined the franchise. 

Or was it passing on Mahomes? Watson?

Eh, I give up

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Gase has to go, no doubt. Where are all the McCarthy advocates now? Instead we are inducting Rhule in the hall and say what if as if any coach would win with this bunch of misfits.  We need health, another draft where we hit on guys and sprinkled in free agents to give any coach a chance. 

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4 hours ago, Matt39 said:

The Johnson's will never allow a culture change as it would require getting rid of them.

sad kristen bell GIF

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6 hours ago, greenwichjetfan said:

“Adam Gase is a good coach and widely liked” has been your mantra for the last year and half. You defended the owners hiring him for this reason. Talk about galaxy brain stuff.

Convenient for you to now switch sides and blame the owners for not firing macc, but still no blame for Gase who you believe is coaching to where the game is going.

I have to concede the point on Gase, I guess. But the silver lining is that it looks like we’ll get another shot to hire your guy Mike McCarthy after the season and, bonus, we can pair him with Mike Maccagnan, as was your stated preference.

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