Augustiniak Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 14 minutes ago, Adoni Beast said: This is the truth and add that there will be about a 0% chance that we draft a quarterback in the 1st round. However, there is one thing that Woody likes to do and that is offer the fan mob some bloody flesh when they're pissed. LaFleur last year, Tannebaum, Schotty, etc etc...so who is it going to be this year and what possible addition to the offensive coaching staff can do without firing Hackett (which obviously won't be happening). Is the OL coach getting the axe? Are we adding a Senior Offensive Assistant? I feel like Woody will push for something like that. I think right now woody will be influenced by what rodgers says. What does rodgers want? If you’re rodgers, what would you suggest you need the next 2 years? Better OL and competent backup qbs. My guess is the coaches remain, maybe a change in OL coach. I think the qbs change the most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 26 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: I think right now woody will be influenced by what rodgers says. What does rodgers want? If you’re rodgers, what would you suggest you need the next 2 years? Better OL and competent backup qbs. My guess is the coaches remain, maybe a change in OL coach. I think the qbs change the most. The QB room does need to change drastically. Sign a vet, Minshew, Brisett, Winston, even Darnold, and draft a mid round guy (Michael Pratt or Travis Jordan) I think we could all play couch OL coach but really have no real idea why the OL is as bad as it is. Talent upgrades needed? Sure, but no OL should be THIS bad. Figure this out somehow, new coach, consultant, philosophy change, training regime change, whatever. Figure it out until its at least functional Get another WR in there - draft, free agency, whatever. I would expect we go the free agency route for WR and draft for OL Get another RB in there. Cook is done and Izzy we can't depend on because we haven't seen him play at all. Get another RB in there who can play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 15 minutes ago, Adoni Beast said: The QB room does need to change drastically. Sign a vet, Minshew, Brisett, Winston, even Darnold, and draft a mid round guy (Michael Pratt or Travis Jordan) I think we could all play couch OL coach but really have no real idea why the OL is as bad as it is. Talent upgrades needed? Sure, but no OL should be THIS bad. Figure this out somehow, new coach, consultant, philosophy change, training regime change, whatever. Figure it out until its at least functional Get another WR in there - draft, free agency, whatever. I would expect we go the free agency route for WR and draft for OL Get another RB in there. Cook is done and Izzy we can't depend on because we haven't seen him play at all. Get another RB in there who can play I think the OL’s issues are fairly diagnosable, ravaged by injuries. Currently they’re starting 2 rookies. Assuming they use another high draft pick on a tackle, that should really fix the OL. Besides qb there’s nothing more that requires offseason attention. i agree we pursue wr help in FA and draft OT. This assumes the jets don’t sneak into the top 3 of the draft and suddenly have a qb fall to them. I like the pratt/travels idea. The jets need to start developing a qb farm system where they have competent backups from their own team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 The real question is, based off of all the personnel moves he has made during his tenure, do you trust his ability to field a competitive team? IMO, no. Send him walking ASAP. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Congrats on getting this thread to 100 pages. We should start a petition 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LockeJET Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 Yay he had one good draft and a couple decent trades in five years. Douglas is no better than any other GM we’ve had. In the end he’s a loser. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fantasy Island Posted December 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2023 Woody should go to Douglas and tell him he needs to lose a 100 lbs. It’s an insurance technicality. Then after he loses the weight, fire him. just wanted to see you suffer like you have made us suffer the last 5 years. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guilhermezmc Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 Him and his CS have to go 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonCorleone Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 On 12/7/2023 at 8:30 AM, Augustiniak said: I think right now woody will be influenced by what rodgers says. What does rodgers want? If you’re rodgers, what would you suggest you need the next 2 years? Better OL and competent backup qbs. My guess is the coaches remain, maybe a change in OL coach. I think the qbs change the most. No Offense but, may Woody ***. Rogers was the worst decision made and any more time with Saleh and JD, is just more wasted seasons. I am running out of seasons 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonCorleone Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 at it's best, this line was average if not slightly below. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Vader Posted December 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2023 should have kept fant. shoulda kept Moses. shoulda drafted Wirfs. These are the easy ones. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 I thought we were all voting for Joe Douglas’s players to be in the pro bowl???? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darnold Schwarzenegger Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 I wonder if Matt millen had as many defenders as Jd does. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 Yes today would be good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Syndicate Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 25-55 baby. 5 losing seasons in 5 years. Extend him though. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Prodigal Syndicate Posted December 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2023 On 4/6/2021 at 2:13 PM, Joe W. Namath said: Joe Douglas is the best thing we have had since Parcells. We are extremely lucky to have him. This is going to be one of the most exciting jet seasons in years. Now that it is completely torn down, this is the start of the build. I am so excited so see all of our new players and coaches come together and begin something special. Enjoy everyone! We will look back on this as the beginning when we are one of the top teams in the league a few years from now. Thank you Joe Douglas! Indeed 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Syndicate Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 On 11/6/2022 at 4:17 PM, Jetsfan80 said: It's Brandon Beane, Joe Douglas, and everyone else right now. And after today's result, Beane may not b the unquestioned # 1 guy. Y'all love to forget that I was on the JD bandwagon long before it was cool! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Syndicate Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 On 2/10/2023 at 4:54 AM, Dunnie said: Please stop making sense ... im starting to get uncomfortable. This threads needs to be retitled build statue and extend JD for six more years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chirorob Posted December 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2023 He's run the team for 4 years. Busted left tackle. Busted the QB. Traded 2 third rounders move up to draft a guard. Gave big bucks to Laken Tomlinson and Duane Brown. Gave big bucks to Alan Lazard. Gave 8 million to Cook. Look at the cap in the next few years, tens of millions spent on players who won't be on the roster. No 2nd rounder in the draft coming up. All this, and the worst offense I can remember. He's had years, and has built the worst offense I can remember, rivaling the Kotite Jets. 8 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted December 17, 2023 Author Share Posted December 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Prodigal Syndicate said: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted December 17, 2023 Author Share Posted December 17, 2023 3 hours ago, chirorob said: He's had years, and has built the worst offense I can remember, rivaling the Kotite Jets That's a crazy indictment. Crazy but accurate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreened Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 He’s just as bad as the previous guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Syndicate Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, GangGreened said: He’s just as bad as the previous guys He's worse by every metric. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetswinbaby! Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 When a "Fire The GM" thread reaches 100 pages, I think it may be a sign that there is a problem with the GM in question... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post carlito1171 Posted December 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2023 The way the OL has been handled is criminal IDGAF about the injuries….. Two players stood out the most today. Becton(His 1st draft pick) and Tomlinson(A major FA signing) I would expect poor blocking from the 5th string guard…..not our starting left side of the line…. JDs misses need to cost him his job FIRE JOE DOUGLAS! 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 56 minutes ago, jetswinbaby! said: When a "Fire The GM" thread reaches 100 pages, I think it may be a sign that there is a problem with the GM in question... Where there is smoke there is fire…. If the jets had been winning this thread fade away…..but the Jets just don’t win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Ron Rico Posted December 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2023 It's beyond tragic-comedy at this point. These are just a few of the offensive linemen that could realistically be on the Jets, right now: (2020 draft) T Tristan Wirfs, Guard Damien Lewis, R Lucas Niang, Guard Kevin Dotson, T Colton McKivitz, T Hakeem Adeniji, G Michael Onwenu. Undrafted that year: Terence Steele, who's a starting Tackle for the Cowboys, Nick Leverett, 2nd string G for the Bucs, and Aaron Brewer, who is the starting Center for the Titans. (2021 draft) T Pennei Sewell, T Christian Darrisaw, G Teven Jenkins, T Walker Little, C Josh Meyers (2022 draft) G Cordell Volson, T Zach Tom, T Thayer Munford Jr. With the exception of Wirfs and Sewell, almost all of these guys were taken in rounds 3-7 and almost all are starters for the team that drafted them and the ones who aren't starters, would be starters on the Jets. That's 19 players in three years, JD had 26 picks (26 opportunities) and didn't get one. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Syndicate Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 22 hours ago, carlito1171 said: The way the OL has been handled is criminal IDGAF about the injuries….. Two players stood out the most today. Becton(His 1st draft pick) and Tomlinson(A major FA signing) I would expect poor blocking from the 5th string guard…..not our starting left side of the line…. JDs misses need to cost him his job FIRE JOE DOUGLAS! Even with injuries this line has had becton and Tomlinson most of the year, that's 2/5 of the line and on top of it Tippman was drafted to be the C of the future and many wanted him starting this year. So that's 3/5 of the line looking pretty much as it would. The guys he drafted like max mitchell look putrid. Like the guy people point to as being the one sure thing is AVT and he has barely seen the field in 2 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 I think the part about Joe Douglas that pisses me off the most was his demand of a 6-year contract…like he was some proven commodity and acting “your roster is so bad that it will take me more than half a decade to fix this.” Well…our QB is worse than Darnold and Our OL is worse than it was under Gase (with less offensive talent). Just get the f*ck out of here and take your personal trainer fraud head coach with you. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Jet Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 56 minutes ago, Ron Rico said: It's beyond tragic-comedy at this point. These are just a few of the offensive linemen that could realistically be on the Jets, right now: (2020 draft) T Tristan Wirfs, Guard Damien Lewis, R Lucas Niang, Guard Kevin Dotson, T Colton McKivitz, T Hakeem Adeniji, G Michael Onwenu. Undrafted that year: Terence Steele, who's a starting Tackle for the Cowboys, Nick Leverett, 2nd string G for the Bucs, and Aaron Brewer, who is the starting Center for the Titans. (2021 draft) T Pennei Sewell, T Christian Darrisaw, G Teven Jenkins, T Walker Little, C Josh Meyers (2022 draft) G Cordell Volson, T Zach Tom, T Thayer Munford Jr. With the exception of Wirfs and Sewell, almost all of these guys were taken in rounds 3-7 and almost all are starters for the team that drafted them and the ones who aren't starters, would be starters on the Jets. That's 19 players in three years, JD had 26 picks (26 opportunities) and didn't get one. Douglas traded the Jets' second first round pick in the 2021 draft, plus their two-third round draft picks to the Vikings for the 14th pick to take Vera-Tucker. He's been good but he's played 28 of a possible 51 games since entering the league (12 games since the start of the 2022 season), and no games since week 5 of this season. The Vikings took Christian Darrisaw with the pick they acquired from the Jets in the first round and Wyatt Davis in the third round (with the second third round draft selection the Jets gave them). The Vikings ended up waiving Davis before the 2022 season and he has bounced around the league and is currently on IR for the Giants. Darrisaw has played 38 games for the Vikings so far. There were plenty of decent offensive linemen in the 2021 draft that Douglas could have taken without having to trade up with the Vikings for Vera-Tucker. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Rico Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 29 minutes ago, Aussie Jet said: There were plenty of decent offensive linemen in the 2021 draft that Douglas could have taken without having to trade up with the Vikings for Vera-Tucker. The 2021 2nd round is chock full of OL who are starters, now. JD's a buffoon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Laken Tomlinson ($14M/ year) Allen Lazard ($11M/ year) Dalvin Cook ($8M/ year) No hyperbole. Might each be the worst players at their respective positions to ever be paid that much money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Can we pin this awesome thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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