jgb Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 6 minutes ago, Nixhead said: Josh Allen looked like a bust today. As a franchise QB - Yes at this point Sam is a bust. Now if Sam would just play like Mike White he might have a chance to be decent. If Zach plays like Mike White he could be top 5 QB. Mike White is the new standard! I’ve seen some low quality posts on here but they all look a little better after this one. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Nicco Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 31 minutes ago, Green Ghost said: @Uncle Nicco come get your boy! Elite arm strength… makes throws nobody else can make… ROTFL you and @HelenOfTroy were quite the couple back then! ?❤️? Never said any of those things 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 8 minutes ago, CpSinceDay1 said: Sad thing is I got ban for trying to warned people, I actually used this site as a reference point....and some still blame our Oline, OC, HC, and now the owner for hiring the guy who hire the guy that hire the guy to convince Rhule that trading for Sam was a good idea.... ? sorry pal but you got to clean house with your FO. Rhule , Brady and your GM all need to go. not for talking a chance on Sam but going all in on him. they gave that stupid extension and then didnt even draft a QB when they could have had Fields or Mac. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 **** Sam. **** Jamal Adams. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandy Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 Is Mahomes alright? I know him slumping was gonna happen at some point, but this is just bizarre play lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 Look at Robby's stats with and without Sam Darnold. Robby without Sam produces like a descent #2 or #3 option at WR. 2017 without Sam Darnold 63 catches 941 yards 7 TDs (This was his second year in the league). If Elijah Moore puts up these types of numbers next year, Jets fans will be excited. 2018-2019: Robby averages ~50 catches ~765 yards 5.5 TDs (With Darnold) 2020: 95 catches 1,096 yards 3 TDs (Without Darnold) 2021: Back to being with Darnold and he is on pace for ~40 catches, ~435 yards, ~4 TDs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmat321 Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 12-15 yr backup that will bounce around the league and show flashes every once in a while. Not a bad life 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 45 minutes ago, Prodigal Syndicate said: Oh damn I didnt know lmao It's true, but they also had Bridgewater signed for 2 guaranteed years as well - including this season - and got out of that a year early by eating it. I can see taking a shot on Darnold for a 2nd rounder, I guess. What I can't wrap my head around is then doubling down on him by guaranteeing him $19MM next year, before his first practice with the team, and more importantly to see him up close handling adversity in live action. Purely from a risk/reward standpoint - risking a guaranteed $19MM for a potential reward of $9MM savings on the franchise tag - that was a poor gamble. Never mind they could've worked on an extension at any time during the season if they liked what they saw. The whole thing with acquiring Darnold was it was a relatively low risk pick to try him out and see if they could find a FQB without expending a high pick this year: low risk, high reward. Then they threw that in the garbage. Now they've got a loser QB, whose upside is still purely imaginary at this point, and next year they're down a 2nd, a 4th, and $19MM for the privilege. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 11 minutes ago, GreenFish said: Look at Robby's stats with and without Sam Darnold. Robby without Sam produces like a descent #2 or #3 option at WR. 2017 without Sam Darnold 63 catches 941 yards 7 TDs (This was his second year in the league). If Elijah Moore puts up these types of numbers next year, Jets fans will be excited. 2018-2019: Robby averages ~50 catches ~765 yards 5.5 TDs (With Darnold) 2020: 95 catches 1,096 yards 3 TDs (Without Darnold) 2021: Back to being with Darnold and he is on pace for ~40 catches, ~435 yards, ~4 TDs Actually even 2017 wasn't all with a legit QB either. Remember the last 3+ games was Bryce Petty. With McCown = 65 yards/game With Bridgewater = 68 yards/game With Darnold = under 50 yards/game Anderson is having a horrid season, and it's not all because of Darnold - he does have 6 drops - but watching a compilation on youtube from a couple weeks ago, not even half the passes thrown Anderson's way are catchable. On most throws he either wasn't open and Darnold threw it to him anyway, or he was open and Darnold missed him. Even some of the drops came in too hot for short yardage, but an 8-figure/year WR is expected to catch those. Drops are drops. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 His footwork is just so bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 55 minutes ago, GreenFish said: I think in the right situation, he could be successful... in the CFL. No. He can’t be successful anywhere because he lacks competitive spirit. Darnold is OK with losing… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 25 minutes ago, jmat321 said: 12-15 yr backup that will bounce around the league and show flashes every once in a while. Not a bad life A backup has to inspire confidence in his team after losing the starter. Darnold’s flat and hopeless demeanor infects, not inspires, his teammates… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hael Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Funny how so many of the best qb prospects of recent years are falling flat in comparison to the old generation of qbs (Rogers, Manning, Brady, Brees, etc). Even the two best of the modern era (Russel and Mahomes) have struggled at times. I'm pretty sure you could surgically repair Mannings back, trot him out there, and he'd be better than a lot of the garbage we've been seeing recently. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Poor Sammy. It is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 3 hours ago, 1010WINS said: Maybe he never would have materialized to anything, but the Jets certainly played a part in his regression. He looked like a promising player after his rookie season. What do you think happened? B.S. Darnold is yet another California air head who has never been comfortable dealing with NFL defensive speed here or with Carolina. He doesn't process what is happening fast enough. /end story. He's got the physical ability. Not the mental ability. Same exact thing with Mark Sanchez. Exactly. I blame USC. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Jet Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, Hael said: Funny how so many of the best qb prospects of recent years are falling flat in comparison to the old generation of qbs (Rogers, Manning, Brady, Brees, etc). Even the two best of the modern era (Russel and Mahomes) have struggled at times. I'm pretty sure you could surgically repair Mannings back, trot him out there, and he'd be better than a lot of the garbage we've been seeing recently. To be fair only Manning was a top prospect, I guess Rodgers was considered a top prospect but he slid to the end of the 1st Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 59 minutes ago, jmat321 said: 12-15 yr backup that will bounce around the league and show flashes every once in a while. Not a bad life You need a backup to either be a game manager OR a gunslinger who can put up some points. Darnold is neither. He’s a QB3. He ought to be out of the league by the age of 27/28, but perhaps some team(s) will give him additional chances beyond that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Jet Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: You need a backup to either be a game manager OR a gunslinger who can put up some points. Darnold is neither. He’s a QB3. He ought to be out of the league by the age of 27/28, but perhaps some team(s) will give him additional chances beyond that. I don’t think it’s far fetched to think Darnold has a 10 year career as a back up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Anthony Jet said: I don’t think it’s far fetched to think Darnold has a 10 year career as a back up. No it’s not far fetched, because this is a league that gives high draft picks endless chances. See: Bradford, Sam. But that doesn’t mean he SHOULD get those chances or that he’d make even a decent backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 all i know for sure is the trade is going to net us high round picks solely due to the guy we traded away. kinda funny. it's like a quantum vortex.....lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snell41 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 There is an actual downside of Jets peddling lemons onto teams for absolute heist prices long-term. Makes it way less likely that teams want to keep dealing the Jets and giving up big prices for players. But for today, keep improving that pick value baby. Hopefully we stop drafting lemons so we don’t have to peddle themSent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Syndicate Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 43 minutes ago, RoadFan said: A backup has to inspire confidence in his team after losing the starter. Darnold’s flat and hopeless demeanor infects, not inspires, his teammates… A back up has to just not be awful. Like Geno just finished with 5 TDS 1 pick, 700+ yards in 3 starts for Seahawks. He will have no trouble continuing to be a back up, but he isnt a starter and his flaws were still present. I dont think Darnold could even be at THAT level. He sucks. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Willie White Shoes Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 2 hours ago, Anthony Jet said: Darnold is bust Robbie is a bigger Mutt than initially thought But Douglas blew it by not paying Anderson $10 million plus a season……That’s all I heard for 18 months. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Sawyer 37 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Quite frankly that 2018 draft sucked for QBs. Darnold, Rosen and Mayfield were all talked up like they were Hall of Famers. Josh Allen wasnt considered polished enough for the NFL game and Lamar Jackson was more of college phenom If you asked he right now to place money on a 2018 QB having the best shot at winning a Super Bowl, Id have to choose Lamar Jackson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vin Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 I know many of you are strutting around like your sh*t don't stink but what does that say about the Jets that they selected a BUST at QB at #3? Oh that's right : Same Old Jets (in other words, the usual) How's Zach working out for us? Oh. Goddammit... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetswinbaby! Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Sam Darnold will soon be following in the footsteps of... Geno Smith... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetswinbaby! Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Sam Darnold will soon be following in the footsteps of... Geno Smith... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DepressedJetsFan23 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 2 hours ago, fullblast said: Damn. Sad to see him in this state, despite however I may feel about him as a player. Agreed always felt he was a good kid just isn’t NFL qb material. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vin Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, jetswinbaby! said: Sam Darnold will soon be following in the footsteps of... Geno Smith... 2 minutes ago, jetswinbaby! said: Sam Darnold will soon be following in the footsteps of... Geno Smith... Sam Darnold will soon be following in the footsteps of... Geno Smith... ECHO.... ECho...... Echo... echo.... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 2 hours ago, jgb said: Clearly the problem is Carolina’s wpeoeiinz DRAFT PICK. The Jets still suck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vin Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 1 minute ago, DepressedJetsFan23 said: Agreed always felt he was a good kid just isn’t NFL qb material. Hope he invests that 18 million he is going to steal next season from the Panthers. He'll need it for a life after Football which will come sooner rather than later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vin Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 1 hour ago, jmat321 said: 12-15 yr backup that will bounce around the league and show flashes every once in a while. Not a bad life If he even lasts half that long without ending up out of the league, I would be shocked. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Sam’s’ s bad is really really bad. It’s hard for NFL QBs to look this bad. Sam was never able to pull himself from the fire when things start to go bad. He just continues to flame out. Some guys can stop the bleeding, but Sam reaches depths that are abysmal. He’s a good kid, but lacks the mental fortitude to be successful in this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Syndicate Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 3 hours ago, Anthony Jet said: Darnold is bust Robbie is a bigger Mutt than initially thought Calling someone a mutt is a straight up racist term. Get this bs outta here. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Just now, Vin said: Hope he invests that 18 million he is going to steal next season from the Panthers. He'll need it for a life after Football which will come sooner rather than later. Geno has been in the league for 9 years. Trevor Siemien 5 years. Ryan Fitzpatrick 28 years. Tyrod Taylor 11 years. Jacoby Brisset 7 years. Colt McCoy 11 years. Case Keenum 9 years. Sam isn’t going anywhere. Soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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