HawaiisOnlyJetsFan Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 49 minutes ago, Obrien2Toon said: I thought the story with Olave was great route runner, not as physically gifted as the other guys it that’s true, this time just blew that out of the water and he’s going top 10 Knock on Olave is his lack of ability to generate YAC and plays without physicality (not that he isn't physically gifted), meaning he may struggle in press and get knocked off his routes by more physical corners in the NFL. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLO Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 58 minutes ago, Obrien2Toon said: I thought the story with Olave was great route runner, not as physically gifted as the other guys it that’s true, this time just blew that out of the water and he’s going top 10 A big issue is the wiry build, how will he do against man coverage etc, this time is not that unexpected. The reason for his 2nd round draft projection pre this was the output last season, and most of that was actually the QB play. He played a lot better with Fields the year before compared to Stroud. I think the Devonte Smith comparison is fair and I think he would be a steal in the 2nd round with one of our picks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Beerfish said: Tyquan Thorton takes he lead at 4.21 that is chris johnston territory is it not? Is he a good WR, or is he just fast, lightning fast? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Truth Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 What did you all think about McBride today? If the Jets miss out on him. Woods or Wydermyer don't look like a bad consolation prize. I don't see any of them going before the 3rd round, after today. This draft is loaded at TE. More important positions will be the flavor of the draft for the top 64. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, Green Truth said: What did you all think about McBride today? If the Jets miss out on him. Woods or Wydermyer don't look like a bad consolation prize. I don't see any of them going before the 3rd round, after today. This draft is loaded at TE. More important positions will be the flavor of the draft for the top 64. I like McBride, but just like I said a few days ago, he’s more Tyler Conklin than Jason Witten. Fans feel the need to equate all of their favorite prospects to all-pros…it’s silly. Give me 4 legitimate starters in the Top 40 at current positions of weakness and I’ll be satisfied. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 I have rules about the combine. 1) Don’t check the same box twice (Olave is fast, so a fast 40 time isn’t surprising) 2) Don’t disregard information that seems wrong. (Combine said Jamal Adams was too slow to be good in coverage but many ignored that) 3) Ignore the talking heads or listen to all of them (either one is fine) 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 46 minutes ago, hawk said: Is he a good WR, or is he just fast, lightning fast? Fast. He had some nice numbers this year but he is well down the list of top wrs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 6 hours ago, Lith said: The film on this kid is seriously slept on. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guilhermezmc Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Lith said: Based on unofficial times I wonder how high the FO has him, we all know JD loves his RAS's, Watson has a lot of production on jet sweeps and screens wich fit the system a truly YAC beast. The problem is really the marginal overall production in the FCS level, ran a really limited route tree at NDSU. Wouldn't mind him in the 3rd has a really good chance to be special if he develops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Lith said: Something to think about until we see the offical times. And there it is. Some of those times were a good bit off, most in the same direction. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 Yeah… the hand timer was way off for that group. official watson official was 4.36 and Olave 4.39. Watson blowing up the combine though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Harris Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 9 minutes ago, Jets Voice of Reason said: Yeah… the hand timer was way off for that group. official watson official was 4.36 and Olave 4.39. Watson blowing up the combine though. Yeah disappointing- several didn’t run a second time bc they thought the times were close Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Paradis Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 1 hour ago, HawaiisOnlyJetsFan said: Knock on Olave is his lack of ability to generate YAC and plays without physicality Boom. Thank. end/olave dialogue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Paradis Posted March 4, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 4, 2022 Just now, BigRy56 said: John Ross and Philip Dorset (and that kid from Kent state) are why you never bet on 40 times alone.. with that said, the name that the name that stands out there? Calvin Austin He was quietly revered at teh Senior Bowl - and now dropped a 4.32 BTW, Memphis>>>Tennessee. SEC should put the vols on notice. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 13 minutes ago, Paradis said: John Ross and Philip Dorset (and that kid from Kent state) are why you never bet on 40 times alone.. with that said, the name that the name that stands out there? Calvin Austin He was quietly revered at teh Senior Bowl - and now dropped a 4.32 BTW, Memphis>>>Tennessee. SEC should put the vols on notice. He was leading or close to leading ncaa receiving yards halfway through the year and then production fell off for some reason. He does stand out with his athleticism though, good for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Jets Voice of Reason said: Yeah… the hand timer was way off for that group. official watson official was 4.36 and Olave 4.39. Watson blowing up the combine though. Hands catcher, awesome YAC, tracks ball in the air, gets wide open, fights for contested balls, off the charts athletically. He could be a 3rd round steal. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jetsons Posted March 4, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Guilhermezmc said: I wonder how high the FO has him, we all know JD loves his RAS's, Watson has a lot of production on jet sweeps and screens wich fit the system a truly YAC beast. The problem is really the marginal overall production in the FCS level, ran a really limited route tree at NDSU. Wouldn't mind him in the 3rd has a really good chance to be special if he develops. 39 minutes ago, sirlancemehlot said: Hands catcher, awesome YAC, tracks ball in the air, gets wide open, fights for contested balls, off the charts athletically. He could be a 3rd round steal. After today Watson will be drafted before the 3rd round. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 1 hour ago, sirlancemehlot said: Hands catcher, awesome YAC, tracks ball in the air, gets wide open, fights for contested balls, off the charts athletically. He could be a 3rd round steal. May not make it to the 2nd round after today. Good chance Jets will have to take him at 35 or 38 if he does make it there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal N of Provo Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 Been busy. Why is nobody freaking about Wilson? I scrolled earlier and saw people saying no top 10 WRs in this draft Did I miss free crack on JN day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Hal N of Provo said: Been busy. Why is nobody freaking about Wilson? I scrolled earlier and saw people saying no top 10 WRs in this draft Did I miss free crack on JN day? I think Wilson clearly separated himself today and would endorse him at 10 if that's the pick but I'd be lying if I said I was comfortable with this receiver class at the top. I'd feel much better taking a stab in the 2nd round or trading a pick. Hopefully London shows out at his Pro Day and Burks can rebound from his performance today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Hal N of Provo said: Been busy. Why is nobody freaking about Wilson? I scrolled earlier and saw people saying no top 10 WRs in this draft Did I miss free crack on JN day? He’s small and fast. Nothing new so he stays put. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 10 hours ago, GreenFish said: Crazy how small Pickett’s hands are. I’m 6’2”. I thought I had what seems to be average size hands and my hands are just shy of 10”. When I shake people’s hands, I’ve never felt my hands were unusually big. For him to be 6’3” and only have 8.5” hands is shocking. My 11 year old has bigger hands. Yeah but can you 11 year old daughter do this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcoops Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 2 hours ago, bla bla bla said: May not make it to the 2nd round after today. Good chance Jets will have to take him at 35 or 38 if he does make it there. He had a hugely impressive day, but where is the college production? With his physical gifts, he should have absolutely dominated in college - especially against that level of competition. That's a little concerning. I like what I have seen of him, at the Senior Bowl and the combine, but he's not a slam-dunk. Stephen Hill also had a very impressive combine, for example. Not saying that Watson will bust like Hill, just an example of combine performance elevating a guy. Was hoping the get Watson for the Jets in the mid rounds. His combine has probably lifted him a lot higher, and at the elevated price that worries me a little. Great athlete, by all accounts a great kid, but that college production does give me a degree of caution. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdub03 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 1 hour ago, mrcoops said: He had a hugely impressive day, but where is the college production? With his physical gifts, he should have absolutely dominated in college - especially against that level of competition. That's a little concerning. I like what I have seen of him, at the Senior Bowl and the combine, but he's not a slam-dunk. Stephen Hill also had a very impressive combine, for example. Not saying that Watson will bust like Hill, just an example of combine performance elevating a guy. Was hoping the get Watson for the Jets in the mid rounds. His combine has probably lifted him a lot higher, and at the elevated price that worries me a little. Great athlete, by all accounts a great kid, but that college production does give me a degree of caution. Thats fair, though if you check out the Bisons overall offense, QB1 1400 yards, QB2 800 yards passing. There a run focused offense. Watson accounted for over 800 yards and 7 TDs of those 2200. He's gonna require a little more projection then someone coming out of a power 5 school. The senior bowl is really gonna elevate this kid, and now the testing will validate what they saw. Everything I've read about his mental make up has been positive. If he's got the tools and the work ethic, I'm willing to bet on him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcoops Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 9 minutes ago, Jdub03 said: Thats fair, though if you check out the Bisons overall offense, QB1 1400 yards, QB2 800 yards passing. There a run focused offense. Watson accounted for over 800 yards and 7 TDs of those 2200. He's gonna require a little more projection then someone coming out of a power 5 school. The senior bowl is really gonna elevate this kid, and now the testing will validate what they saw. Everything I've read about his mental make up has been positive. If he's got the tools and the work ethic, I'm willing to bet on him. All very true. I do like Watson, it's just that projecting guys (even great athletes) with fairly limited college production is always a risk. I hate to get back to Stephen Hill, who was another guy who had a terrific combine after limited college production in a run-first scheme, but there is always a risk with these projections. I do think Watson will have a better pro career than Hill (who - full disclosure - I also liked after his combine) but he will probably need a fair bit of development. It's a big jump for him, though his physical gifts, work ethic and character are all huge positives. I'd like to see him as a Jet, but I was hoping it would be as a mid-rounder. It looks like we would probably have to invest more to acquire him, which makes it more of a risk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdub03 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 54 minutes ago, mrcoops said: All very true. I do like Watson, it's just that projecting guys (even great athletes) with fairly limited college production is always a risk. I hate to get back to Stephen Hill, who was another guy who had a terrific combine after limited college production in a run-first scheme, but there is always a risk with these projections. I do think Watson will have a better pro career than Hill (who - full disclosure - I also liked after his combine) but he will probably need a fair bit of development. It's a big jump for him, though his physical gifts, work ethic and character are all huge positives. I'd like to see him as a Jet, but I was hoping it would be as a mid-rounder. It looks like we would probably have to invest more to acquire him, which makes it more of a risk. I understand the concern especially with our history of 2nd round receivers, excluding Moore, but if there is a year to do it, this may be the year. We have 4 picks in the top 40, plus a 3rd, 2 4ths, 2 5ths. We've got plenty of capital to take a risk on projection/upside. Stephen Hill always looked uncomfortable playing football. He was a terrific athlete, but very mechanical. I don't see this with Watson. I see smooth mover that has the tools to develop as a route runner and the frame/hands to improve in contested catch situations. He needs to be more physical attacking the ball, but he's quite good with the ball in his hands. I think worst case he's a role player for vertical routes, screens, reverse, and gadgets. He aligned all over the field and is a pretty solid run blocker. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 If it’s as fast a track as it appears, we’re all gonna be thirsting over CBs and Edge guys tomorrow more than any one of these wideouts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, T0mShane said: If it’s as fast a track as it appears, we’re all gonna be thirsting over CBs and Edge guys tomorrow more than any one of these wideouts. And what do you think saleh and douglas will be thinking - we need 2 of these guys. Trade back from 10, 2 defensive players in the first, and a trade up in the 2nd for a wr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted March 4, 2022 Author Share Posted March 4, 2022 8 hours ago, Paradis said: The film on this kid is seriously slept on. 100%.I went with family this past November to see ND at UVA.Other than my son,his wife all his in-laws went to UVA and are as nuts about UVA sports as we are the Jets. That game , the UVA QB Brennan Armstrong missed his 2 2nd straight game., and a true frost made his first start. ND knew the TE was their best weapon, and took him completely out of the game. UVA could not move the ball. The folks down there compare him to Herman Moore, which is pretty high praise. These are people who live UVA sports. This kid is good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 The NFL network is acting like Burks had an impressive combine while he runs a very meh gauntlet. Burks can still be good but this wasn’t the day he was hoping for or that anyone expected.Definitely didn’t expect anything faster than 4.5. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 8 hours ago, Paradis said: The film on this kid is seriously slept on. Imagine if Lavel Davis was healthy this past season. UVA would have had two 6’7” targets in their passing game….Lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 sorry didnt read previous comments, but watching some of the combine...the TE depths stands out. I think if we miss out on the top 2 guys there are still multiple options in the middle rounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted March 4, 2022 Author Share Posted March 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, sec101row23 said: Imagine if Lavel Davis was healthy this past season. UVA would have had two 6’7” targets in their passing game….Lol. Also, before he got hurt vs Pitt, Brennan Armstrong was neck and neck with Pickett for ACC POY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 Just now, section314 said: Also, before he got hurt vs Pitt, Brennan Armstrong was neck and neck with Pickett for ACC POY. True. UVA had a nice season going. They were playing well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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