League Worst Defensive DVOA After 3 Weeks (update: now 6th best)

[slimjasi]

1 minute ago, bitonti said:

No disrespect to football outsiders but the Jets defense is better than 32nd and their offense is worse than 18th. 

Maybe?

But at the end of the day, the offense and ST is responsible for the only win we have and the defense has been awful in two straight games. 

This past game was particularly alarming from a defensive perspective, because we were playing an OL that should have given our DL an opportunity to shine and . . . it didn't. 

[SoFlaJets]

1 hour ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said:

At this point, the fans are so beat down we don’t ask for much

Just have some semblance of competence

Saleh can’t oblige…he is the absolute worst ??

his D was 32nd last year too 

He has coached 20 regular season games and has been behind in EVERY GAME! Saleh needs to be fired, unfortunately for us Jets fans even with a Super Bowl winning Head Coach out there who actually WANTS THE JOB, Woody Johnson has no ability to make a big move like this. All he can do is to pick the next Never-been a HC before defensive coordinator, give him the job then skulk over to the corner, close his eyes real tight, kneel down and cross his fingers and hope that maybe this time he made the right choice.and just hope for the best 

[jgb]

2 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said:

You mean aside from one of the most long standing and well respected football analytics sites?

Stats and analytics are garbage I only believe the eye test. 

[OtherwiseHappyinLife]

1 hour ago, SuicidalSince98 said:

Except that if you have eyes and saw the giants last night there is no way you’d think they are a better defense 

Stop trying to argue the Giants are better are being bad.  We are the BEST at being bad. 

J   E   T  S .... Jets Jets ... oh shut up!!!

[Beerfish]

5 minutes ago, bitonti said:

No disrespect to football outsiders but the Jets defense is better than 32nd and their offense is worse than 18th. I don't see how this offense can be considered in the neighborhood league average 

The jets are 9th in the league in yards per game, with an injured oline.  If anything the offense with a crap QB in Flacco and injuries has played better than expected.  Are they 'good'?  No not great but at least passable.

The defense has zero excuse for grossly underachieving.

[Paradis]

Rob on this latest development—

[Barry McCockinner]

13 minutes ago, bitonti said:

No disrespect to football outsiders but the Jets defense is better than 32nd and their offense is worse than 18th. I don't see how this offense can be considered in the neighborhood league average 

You may be right about the offense but if Football Outsiders included CFL teams into the DVOA rankings I'm confident the Jets would be lower than 32nd on defense.

[undertow]

None of this is surprising Saleh openly admits he doesn't make adjustments and firing Ulrich would make no difference.....I'm not happy about it but Saleh is a dud the quicker he's gone the better for the franchise. 

[Gastineau Lives]

3 hours ago, Fantasy Island said:

bOBBY sALAD IS A FRAUD.

He keeps this sh*t up he's gonna find himself coaching at BYU

[jgb]

1 minute ago, Gastineau Lives said:

He keeps this up he's gonna find himself coaching at BYU

Not after what he did to their sweet, sweet baby

[Spoot-Face]

2 hours ago, Biggs said:

This team needs to stop drafting dogs and start drafting Monkey's.

@Integrity28

^Sign this beast

[Integrity28]

3 hours ago, The Gun Of Bavaria said:

I have zero issue with the Gardner pick. Zero.

Same.

For the most part, it’s not the players. 

[Spoot-Face]

2 hours ago, Creepy Lurker said:

They already drafted a walrus (Becton). 

He should switch sports:

[Jet Nut]

3 hours ago, Matt39 said:

It’s almost as if this wasn’t covered as much as it should have been in preseason!

With every team given how little teams play as a team in the preseason.  

[Matt39]

5 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

With every team given how little teams play as a team in the preseason.  

There’s nothing preventing the Jets from playing more in the preseason. 

[jeremy2020]

To be fair, SF is only 3rd in DVOA after losing the defensive mastermind that is Saleh.

Nothing a couple of Bosas or Watts won't fix. 

[Jet Nut]

4 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

There’s nothing preventing the Jets from playing more in the preseason. 

No one plays their starting players in their preseason games anymore.  
 

 

[The Crusher]

4 hours ago, T0mShane said:

PFF guys were talking about the difficulty of grading Sauce Gardner because the breakdowns in communication and scheme in the Jets secondary are so absurd that it’s hard to pinpoint who to blame, and that goes back to last year, too. 

I’ve yet to see these clowns put a single player in a position to succeed at a consistent level. Wilson had a great game against the Browns because Joe Flacco had a Priest in Caddy Shack round of golf level  performance. This week? Joe got struck by the lightning. I truly feel bad for all these talented kids they have drafted. I do. 

[sciond]

Good thing we hired a defensive coach who really makes a difference.

It is not easy to get that ranking

[bitonti]

2 hours ago, Beerfish said:

The jets are 9th in the league in yards per game, with an injured oline.  If anything the offense with a crap QB in Flacco and injuries has played better than expected.  Are they 'good'?  No not great but at least passable.

The defense has zero excuse for grossly underachieving.

My problem with these offensive stats is that they occur in garbage time 

When it's the 4th quarter and the other team is up by 2 or more scores, then the offense comes alive 

It's too little too late 

[Dcat]

5 hours ago, peebag said:

?

Outsiders has been around for decades... always ripping the Jets too.  Not that it is undeserved.

[Alka]

28 minutes ago, sciond said:

Good thing we hired a defensive coach who really makes a difference.

It is not easy to get that ranking

Getting that ranking 2 years in a row is even more difficult, but last year the Jets were #32 on defense, and we have a great shot of being #32 again for the season at this pace.

[The Crusher]

2 hours ago, jgb said:

Not after what he did to their sweet, sweet baby

Ok, Zack was likely was never going to be that good, but if he was? He would have screw him up too. Name a single player this guy has put consistently in a position to succeed? Moore, Sauce, Wilson, Carter, Bryce. These dudes would be killing it on Amy other team. Even the God Damn Giants get more out of them than these clowns,

[jgb]

1 minute ago, The Crusher said:

Ok, Zack was likely was never going to be that good, but if he was? He would have screw him up too. Name a single player this guy has put consistently in a position to succeed? Moore, Sauce, Wilson, Carter, Bryce. These dudes would be killing it on Amy other team. Even the God Damn Giants get more out of them than these clowns,

[The Crusher]

6 minutes ago, jgb said:

GFY. I’m hungry 

[jgb]

1 minute ago, The Crusher said:

GFY. I’m hungry 

lol Steve was helping me say "I got nothin" in response to your query.

[The Crusher]

4 minutes ago, jgb said:

lol Steve was helping me say "I got nothin" in response to your query.

It’s just maddening homeboy, my bad. 

[Jetluv58]

5 hours ago, Bronx said:

Classless post.

[JoJoTownsell1]

6 hours ago, peebag said:

Who are the FootballOutsiders and why should I care?

Do you still think the earth is flat?

[Bronx]

12 minutes ago, Jetluv58 said:

Classless post.

Classless coach.

[jgb]

1 minute ago, JoJoTownsell1 said:

Do you still think the earth is flat?

Earth doesn't exist, you shill for Big Reality.

[Beerfish]

48 minutes ago, bitonti said:

My problem with these offensive stats is that they occur in garbage time 

When it's the 4th quarter and the other team is up by 2 or more scores, then the offense comes alive 

It's too little too late 

So all the bad teams in the league should have great garbage time stats.  As I said our offense is not great but the D is ridiculously awful for the talent, resources and hot shot coaching.

[Jet hustle]

6 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said:

You mean aside from one of the most long standing and well respected football analytics sites?

Don't even entertain the troll....   its probably Salehs wife or Ulbrichs brother trying to blindly defend the crap D

[JoJoTownsell1]

22 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

So all the bad teams in the league should have great garbage time stats.  As I said our offense is not great but the D is ridiculously awful for the talent, resources and hot shot coaching.

We're playing a washed up Flacco with 3rd string guys at LT.  Yet somehow Lafleur manages to create something on offense. 

The defense has been awful virtually every single drive since Saleh has been here. I'm not asking this talent on defense to be top 5, but to be the worst every week is a horrible sign for Saleh.

[jgb]

5 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said:

We're playing a washed up Flacco with 3rd string guys at LT.  Yet somehow Lafleur manages to create something on offense. 

The defense has been virtually every single drive since Saleh has been here. I'm not asking this talent on defense to be top 5, but to be the worst every week is a horrible sign for Saleh.

With Fant going down, even more pressure/spotlight on the defense. This is starting to smell like the end of Saleh...