How did Geno become good?

[Facts]

Ive been racking my brain trying to figure this out

He went from green puke to seattle elite.

WTF happened?

 

[The Crusher]

I honestly think the right location and system the QB is as important as the ability he shows up with, 

[Untouchable]

Don’t know and don’t really care 

Even if it’s sustainable, it took him a solid decade to reach this point and he’s 32.

He was a turnover prone douchebag when he was here and I have zero regrets over turning the page.

We now have a QB who is 10 years younger and hasn’t even scratched the surface of his potential.

Good times in Jets land

[Augustiniak]

I’m increasingly of the opinion that some teams are home to system qbs, like the patriots.  

[BurntDice]

He always had a good arm and was athletic. He just didn’t have the mental part of the game down, not even close. Sitting on the bench all these years learning and growing as a player. Good for him 

[SuicidalSince98]

He’s not good, remember Darnold through 5 weeks last year? 

[Integrity28]

Honestly, a lot of the guys that don’t peak right away sort of arrive after 6-8 years at the height of what they’re capable of… and it usually requires a system fit type thing. Look back at Jake Plummer, he’s a perfect example. He was never great, but all of a sudden he wasn’t a joke anymore. That’s Geno right now.

That said, the Seattle defense is putrid, so I’m curious what part of his stat accumulation is garbage time and/or playing catch-up.

 

[neckdemon]

9 minutes ago, Integrity28 said:

Honestly, a lot of the guys that don’t peak right away sort of arrive after 6-8 years at the height of what they’re capable of… and it usually requires a system fit type thing. Look back at Jake Plummer, he’s a perfect example. He was never great, but all of a sudden he wasn’t a joke anymore. That’s Geno right now.

That said, the Seattle defense is putrid, so I’m curious what part of his stat accumulation is garbage time and/or playing catch-up.

 

idk but if you watched the video he made some pretty sick passes

[jgb]

He's playing good ball right now. Efficient and not making a lot of mistakes. However, he's still a punk lol and it would be so Genoesque if his suspension came down from his outrageous arrest last new year's right when he's playing well to end the party.

Geno never wastes an opportunity to waste an opportunity...

[FootballLove]

Geno obviously spent all winter studying film of Zack Wilson ?

[Beerfish]

He always had an NFL arm and NFL mobility.  Even this year he has made a few mind numbing errors but he has cut down on those.

It shows that if you have nfl arm talent you still have a chance even though the league these days gives up on guys after a year or two.

[Creepy Lurker]

The Jets vs.Seahawks Super Bowl will be amazing. 

[Kleckineau]

Rich Gannon comes to mind. Like Geno he similarly found his stride after 30 years old.

Also I remember being pissed off about Jeff Blake leaving.

[ZachEY]

51 minutes ago, SuicidalSince98 said:

He’s not good, remember Darnold through 5 weeks last year? 

Sam Darnold through 5 games in 2021: 6 TD, 6 INT, 4 fumbles, 7.49 average Y/A, 85.4 average passer rating

Geno Smith through 5 games in 2022: 9TD, 2 INT, 1 fumble, 8.46 average Y/A, 114.2 average passer rating

Tell me more about how these are the same!

[slimjasi]

There have been many QBs who figured things out later in their careers after bouncing around the league for awhile. 
 

He always had the physical tools, just lacked the maturity/confidence/whatever. 

[SuicidalSince98]

4 minutes ago, ZachEY said:

Sam Darnold through 5 games in 2021: 6 TD, 6 INT, 4 fumbles, 7.49 average Y/A, 85.4 average passer rating

Geno Smith through 5 games in 2022: 9TD, 2 INT, 1 fumble, 8.46 average Y/A, 114.2 average passer rating

Tell me more about how these are the same!

Hi douchebag you’re right, it was 4 weeks. Where he led the NFL in passing yards, was completing 68% of his passes, and had 10 total TDs to 3 picks. 

[Origen]

10,000 hours must have finally passed for him.

[BornJetsFan1983]

1 hour ago, Facts said:

Ive been racking my brain trying to figure this out

He went from green puke to seattle elite.

WTF happened?

 

By riding the pine and learning...just like arron Rodgers and many qbs before him. It's the way it should be done

[Sonny Werblin]

I’m gonna go out on a limb and say he’s always had an nfl arm and + mobility. The difference is that he now knows how to play the position of QB in the nfl. 

[Alka]

1 hour ago, Untouchable said:

Don’t know and don’t really care 

Even if it’s sustainable, it took him a solid decade to reach this point and he’s 32.

He was a turnover prone douchebag when he was here and I have zero regrets over turning the page.

We now have a QB who is 10 years younger and hasn’t even scratched the surface of his potential.

Good times in Jets land

I feel the same way you do.  However, I have thought about Geno's game lately, and I feel that it has to do with his maturity.  He always had the talent and ability to be successful, but I felt that he was an immature jerk when he was with the Jets.  I didn't want to wait the 10 years that it took for him to get where he is now, and while I don't begrudge him for his success, I hope that the Seahawks lose every single game they play.  

[Jet2020]

1 hour ago, Untouchable said:

Don’t know and don’t really care 

Even if it’s sustainable, it took him a solid decade to reach this point and he’s 32.

He was a turnover prone douchebag when he was here and I have zero regrets over turning the page.

We now have a QB who is 10 years younger and hasn’t even scratched the surface of his potential.

Good times in Jets land

Doesn’t mean anything today. Rich Gannon was 37 when he was the league MVP. He was 34 when he got his first pro bowl. 

[JetBlue]

1 hour ago, BurntDice said:

He always had a good arm and was athletic. He just didn’t have the mental part of the game down, not even close. Sitting on the bench all these years learning and growing as a player. Good for him 

Exactly.  He should never have started in the first place; he was definitely not ready especially emotionally; in a big market like NY.  I still don't get the hate folks have for him.  I'm glad he seems to have finally figured some things out.  Perhaps sitting behind Wilson those few years really helped him. Who knows.   He is not the first quarterback to figure things out in latter part of their careers.    Good for him. 

[JetBlue]

2 minutes ago, Jet2020 said:

Doesn’t mean anything today. Rich Gannon was 37 when he was the league MVP. He was 34 when he got his first pro bowl. 

Precisely. 

[JetBlue]

1 hour ago, Integrity28 said:

Honestly, a lot of the guys that don’t peak right away sort of arrive after 6-8 years at the height of what they’re capable of… and it usually requires a system fit type thing. Look back at Jake Plummer, he’s a perfect example. He was never great, but all of a sudden he wasn’t a joke anymore. That’s Geno right now.

That said, the Seattle defense is putrid, so I’m curious what part of his stat accumulation is garbage time and/or playing catch-up.

 

I watched the highlights of that game. It was a back and forth game and he made some great throws in the fourth, they almost came back and won the game. 

[maury77]

Honestly, this is the first opportunity he's had as the unquestioned starter since the IK punch. Maybe he just needed a real opportunity and a coaching staff that believed in him. 

[sourceworx]

Geno never seemed like a bad kid to me. I think it was more of a maturity issue when he was here. It looks like he's gotten past that now, and is finally realizing his potential. He always had the physical tools to be good.

I'm happy for him.

[TuscanyTile2]

2 hours ago, Facts said:

Ive been racking my brain trying to figure this out

He went from green puke to seattle elite.

WTF happened?

 

This is what I picture for Darnold's career.  An out-of-nowhere ascension.

[Untouchable]

29 minutes ago, Jet2020 said:

Doesn’t mean anything today. Rich Gannon was 37 when he was the league MVP. He was 34 when he got his first pro bowl. 

Sure, and Rich Gannon is in a small line of QB’s who reversed their fortunes after 10+ years of failure.

Will Geno join him?

Maybe

Though I seriously doubt it

Either way, what were the Jets supposed to do? Devote a decade to a QB with immaturity issues that they took a flyer on in the 2nd round in the hopes that he would someday “get it”?

That would be like us giving Kellen Clemens until 2016 to eventually turn things around.

Geno lost his job 7 years ago to a mediocre journeyman thanks to immature bullsh*t and he’s finally showing signs of turning things around.

I don’t wish ill will upon the guy, but I’m not exactly filled with regret either.

[92ShaunEllis92]

2 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

This is what I picture for Darnold's career.  An out-of-nowhere ascension.

10 years of being in the league is NOT an out of nowhere ascension. 
 

Its bound to happen as QB needs many years to really master the nuances and speed of the position and many have excelled/improved significantly as older veterans: Rich Gannon, Jim Plunkett, Brad Johnson, R.A. Dickey, Jeff George, Scott Mitchell, and now Geno Smith

[TuscanyTile2]

2 minutes ago, 92ShaunEllis92 said:

10 years of being in the league is NOT an out of nowhere ascension. 
 

Its bound to happen as QB needs many years to really master the nuances and speed of the position and many have excelled/improved significantly as older veterans: Rich Gannon, Jim Plunkett, Brad Johnson, R.A. Dickey, Jeff George, Scott Mitchell, and now Geno Smith

Geno bounced around to different teams.  If Chase Daniel (who has been in the league a long time) suddenly was a highly rated QB, you wouldn't say that was an out-of-nowhere ascension?  

[ACourseinMiracles]

Ayahuasca.

[GreenFish]

Right system and very good supporting cast. Same thing happened to Alex Smith. Too many skilled QBs go to poor situations and don't develop.

Exciting that we finally have a young skilled QB in a good situation. ML is a good OC and we have weapons and a good OL when healthy.

[92ShaunEllis92]

7 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

Geno bounced around to different teams.  If Chase Daniel (who has been in the league a long time) suddenly was a highly rated QB, you wouldn't say that was an out-of-nowhere ascension?  

No, because apprenticeship and years of experience actually contributes to forming a better understanding & preparation of the profession/position. 
The longer you sit to master the intricacies of the craft, the better you’ll perform despite limited athletic ability. 
Thus why the Doug Petersons, Josh McCowns, Ty Detmers, Jeff Garcias, etc all were starting QBs in their later years (and usually for new regimes and where QB bridge is needed to usually groom the young Draft pick QB)

[Integrity28]

2 hours ago, neckdemon said:

idk but if you watched the video he made some pretty sick passes

I believe it.

[MR.GANGGREEN28]

3 hours ago, Untouchable said:

Don’t know and don’t really care 

Even if it’s sustainable, it took him a solid decade to reach this point and he’s 32.

He was a turnover prone douchebag when he was here and I have zero regrets over turning the page.

We now have a QB who is 10 years younger and hasn’t even scratched the surface of his potential.

Good times in Jets land

I agree.. but also I’m happy for Geno. Takes a lot of resilience to find success this late in a career, pretty fun to witness especially considering we don’t need to care about their draft position anymore.