Popular Post AFJF Posted January 24, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 24, 2023 Sheesh. Team owes him $100 mil over the next two seasons and they're using their twitter to criticize him? I mean, the tweet isn't wrong, but how many teams go after their top guys like this? 3 2 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jgb Posted January 24, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 24, 2023 So… is he available? 1 1 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted January 24, 2023 Author Share Posted January 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, jgb said: So… is he available? Great question. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post heymangold Posted January 24, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 24, 2023 I’d take dak any day of the week. If he’s available he becomes my #2 want. Lamar, dak, carr, rodgers, Jimmy g. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, AFJF said: Great question. If Boys make a move for Peyton, he’d probably love Lamar given his unnatural lust for Taysom Hill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post joewilly12 Posted January 24, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 24, 2023 Zach for Dak sign me up 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 1 minute ago, joewilly12 said: Zach for Dak sign me up Unloading him would require giving up cap space. Basically we’d buy some cap space with draft picks. He is that bad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darnold Schwarzenegger Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Zach for Dak sign me up Yea. But Only if they threw in 2 1st round picks micah parsons and ceedee lamb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Perfect timing. I was just about to post how Dallas fans are unhappy with Dak. He's making around $40M per year. I think his stats are in the ballpark of Carr. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/P/PresDa01.htm https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CarrDe02.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peekskill68 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Jerry knows he's not winning a SB with either McCarthy or Dak under center... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Didn’t jets Twitter show Zach jerseys on sale? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeeJayy Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 I'm in the DFW area. Sports talk radio here was something else today. Everything was fire Kellen Moore and Dak has reached his potential at QB and they need a restart (was compared to Jared Goff w/ the Rams situation... has reached his potential within the system/can't win the big one) There's been a few clips of Jerry Jones right after that kind of raised my antenna's. Cowboys owner Jerry Jones on Dak Prescott: "I thought this team with Dak at quarterback...I thought we had a chance to get to and compete at the top level in this tournament. I really did." I took this instantly as Jerry now has come to the conclusion that Dak isn't the guy and can't be the guy. I personally don't think he's as bad as some make him to be. I think if he were to find his way to this team, we're instantly playoff contenders and you never know what a different system/coaching could do for a player. He's still young, the only thing that would make me hesitate is his injury history. He'd instantly become our best QB in the last 25 years. Trade compensation would be a different story and how/if it's possible to fit his contract to our salary cap. I would offer them something, but would have to be reasonable with the future kept in mind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 I like Dak, would have signed him as a FA if they didn't tag him. I do have concerns, he has had a legit OL, legit WRs, legit TE, legit defense, in a bad division, and still can't get it done. As funky as it sounds, I like the mystery with Carr vs what I've seen in perfect conditions with Dak. Here's what I'm seeing: - Dak has a no-trade clause in his contract, does he want to play for the Jets? Possible - If traded the Cowboys would eat $58m in dead cap (and increase of $10m from Dak's '23 cap hit). His new team would basically have him on a 2 year deal that also prevents the franchise tag from being used. 2023 - $31m 2024 - $29m 2025 - Void 2026 - Void I don't understand how the Cowboys could move Dak AND be competitive in 2023. You would HAVE to bottom out eith all the free agents you have as well. That said, if Jerry Jones wants Sean Payton, and Sean Payton wants Caleb Williams, then Payton may go to Dallas to blow the whole thing up. (I believe there is a strong chance the Cardinals do this) 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 2 hours ago, heymangold said: I’d take dak any day of the week. If he’s available he becomes my #2 want. Lamar, dak, carr, rodgers, Jimmy g. Why do we want QB's who CAN'T win in the playoffs? Just curious. 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Dangle Zach and see if Jerry bites. We might be able to get a 2nd. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 2 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Perfect timing. I was just about to post how Dallas fans are unhappy with Dak. He's making around $40M per year. I think his stats are in the ballpark of Carr. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/P/PresDa01.htm https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CarrDe02.htm The goal post keeps moving. Dallas fans are not happy because once you become a consistent playoff team, fans will want a super bowl. Win a super bowl, Then they will want a dynasty. We suck. I just want to be a consistent playoff team right now. We can worry about super bowls later. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Dak Prescott is turning into Ryan Fitzpatrick. I wouldn't be too thrilled trading for him. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 3 hours ago, AFJF said: Sheesh. Team owes him $100 mil over the next two seasons and they're using their twitter to criticize him? I mean, the tweet isn't wrong, but how many teams go after their top guys like this? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 3 hours ago, jgb said: So… is he available? I believe Dallas would incur a $58M dead cap hit if they traded him this offseason, if I'm reading OTC correctly, lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSJF Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 No half measures, get Rodgers for the next two/three years, develop around young quarterback behind him… Blamo, we is in the Super Bowl 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 9 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: I believe Dallas would incur a $58M dead cap hit if they traded him this offseason, if I'm reading OTC correctly, lol. Absolutely true. But only because it'd also wipe him off their cap forever ($0 lagging to further hit in 2024+). So while it's Ducasse-ugly on paper, just like GB with Rodgers, the team knows a motherlode is freeing up in 2024 and beyond, so they can offset the current big hit by making other players' hits lower in 2023 and higher thereafter. What makes this different than GB/Rodgers is ARod still has a lot more bonus money coming his way if he's not traded, so - while GB would incur a higher cap hit for the QB than they would by leaving things alone - they are also removing so much more additional pay to their QB. I don't see them trading him, but I guess if someone was willing to fork over a pair of 1s somehow, it'd go a long way to offsetting that immediate cap penalty by reducing their FA needs. Otherwise they may be painted into a corner to restructure him (again). Dallas players LOVE to get restructured. Removes the state income taxes for their away games. But they can avoid a good $24MM in new payments by cutting Zeke and (given how many games he's missed the past 3 seasons) maybe even Tyron Smith. These Dallas starters are all UFAs in March: Lamb, Schultz, Noah Brown, Anthony Brown, Vander Esch, Barr, Pollard (Zeke was still the starter but Pollard had a far better season & has taken a lot less punishment than Zeke), Maher (not that they weren't going to find a new kicker anyway). Steele is a RFA so they can rent him for 1 more year for cheap but then have to ante up to keep him. Yikes! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Goodman Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 10 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: So while it's Ducasse-ugly on paper Hilarious ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Dak has always been overrated to me It’s not as if the Cowboys have better options though 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 21 minutes ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said: Dak has always been overrated to me It’s not as if the Cowboys have better options though Nope, they don’t. But they’re certainly making things harder on themselves by continuing to employ Mike McCarthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 12 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Nope, they don’t. But they’re certainly making things harder on themselves by continuing to employ Mike McCarthy. I just can't get past the twitter post, calling out their starting QB like that. Whether the assessment is justified or not, who does that? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heymangold Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 6 hours ago, CanadaSteve said: Why do we want QB's who CAN'T win in the playoffs? Just curious. The jets haven’t made the playoffs in 13 years. Let’s worry about getting there first before we worry about winning a game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 11 hours ago, AFJF said: Sheesh. Team owes him $100 mil over the next two seasons and they're using their twitter to criticize him? I mean, the tweet isn't wrong, but how many teams go after their top guys like this? They probably can’t rely on their fans the way we can. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usanyj Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 I guess I'm just hoping Maher was doing his best Dak impression after each pick he threw. Watching Dak throw a tantrum on the sidelines during last weeks game when Maher was missing kicks was a disgrace. Karma bit him in the ass for that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usanyj Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 8 hours ago, CanadaSteve said: Why do we want QB's who CAN'T win in the playoffs? Just curious. Because we have QB's who cant win in the regular season. This argument is an interesting one. We are in this spot because we missed on Zach....and Darnold...and Hackenberg....and Petty....The list goes on and on. Fans who complain about whats available on the QB market right now seem to forget what we have watched over the years/decades. Are the QB's out there perfect? No, but most, if not all of them would be the best QB we've had in a very long time. Carr has 217 tds to 99 picks, and a career comp percentage of 65%, all while having the most comebacks in recent years Lamar is 26 and is an MVP Jimmy G has went to the super bowl Dak has 100 more tds to ints and was a ROTY Rodgers is a legend Brady is a Football God Poo Poo whats out there all you want, but every person I Just listed would be the best QB in Jets history stats wise, and you hope change of scenery gets the guys who haven't won big in the past over the hump. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 The MVP looked like crap at home against the 49ers last year in the same spot. The Dallas D was pushed around in the second half. Dak wasn't very good but that loss was not on Dak. Granted he didn't win it but he didn't lose it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post usanyj Posted January 24, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 24, 2023 5 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: Nope, they don’t. But they’re certainly making things harder on themselves by continuing to employ Mike McCarthy. I don't get the McCarthy hate... He is 131-87 - 2 in his career and is 1 of only 4 coaches to lead his team to the playoffs for 8 straight seasons, and he has a ring (Sure, with a HOF QB in Rodgers, but he has a ring) yet, here we are on this forum and people are nutting over trying to get Sean Payton and want to pay him 20 mil and give up a first round pick, when he is 139-84, has 8 playoff appearances and won a super bowl, with a HOF QB in Brees. They're also both 59. They're mirror images of each other. I think the McCarthy smearing needs to end. He should've been our head coach and reports said he wanted to be our head coach, instead, we want with the cheerleader who runs the stadium steps. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadienJetsFan Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 I’d rather have Zach than Dak. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasyt Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 17 minutes ago, usanyj said: He should've been our head coach and reports said he wanted to be our head coach, instead, we want with the cheerleader who runs the stadium steps. https://www.newyorkjets.com/news/jets-interview-mike-mccarthy-for-head-coaching-position Even worse.............................we chose Gase over him. Who knows, if we have hired McCarthy perhaps Darnold is still our QB. I utterly believe that Gase ruined Sam. He closed out 2018 on such an upward trajectory......................oh well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 8 hours ago, CanadaSteve said: Why do we want QB's who CAN'T win in the playoffs? Just curious. Agreed. A-Rod or bust! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtina Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 11 hours ago, AFJF said: Sheesh. Team owes him $100 mil over the next two seasons and they're using their twitter to criticize him? I mean, the tweet isn't wrong, but how many teams go after their top guys like this? That is horrible and despicable calling him out like that. On Twitter. Wow. What fingerprinting. I doubt he was the sole reason they lost. Bizarre last plays for example Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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