Greenbloodblitz Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 3 hours ago, WayneChrebet80 said: It will be interesting to see which QB has a better career. I’ll go with Jones simply because the Giants are a better organization and I have no confidence in Gase. What....A...D Nozzle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenbloodblitz Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 3 hours ago, WayneChrebet80 said: It will be interesting to see which QB has a better career. I’ll go with Jones simply because the Giants are a better organization and I have no confidence in Gase. What ...A....D Nozzle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 3 hours ago, CurtMart said: If by later you mean 2nd round, then yeah. He admitted he had Jones 1A, Lock 1B. Lock went in the 2nd. At worst could have drafted deserving players at 6 & 17 and either QB in the 2nd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 Does any one know where the love of God goes When the waves turn the minutes to hours? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYs Stepchild Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 3 hours ago, WayneChrebet80 said: It will be interesting to see which QB has a better career. I’ll go with Jones simply because the Giants are a better organization and I have no confidence in Gase. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 Jones is the new Mr. Intangibles. He's got the "imeasurables" in spades. It's that whole throwing the ball accurately thing that is the problem. Nothing a few sessions with Jordan Palmer can't cure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joenamathwouldn'tcry Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 3 hours ago, WayneChrebet80 said: The truth is Dave Gettleman knows more about football than anyone in Florham Park. That is undisputable when you look at his track record of building 7 rosters that went to the Super Bowl. You are right. But that was before he lost his mind. Doesn't count. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docdhc Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 Daniel Jones was the 7th rated QB in the ACC last year. I'll go with Sam! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelenOfTroy Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 Two weeks ago, while having my hair done, one of the hairdressers was cutting her uncle’s hair. Nice man, from New Jersey. I asked him about the best Italian restaurants in NY...as we chatted I asked him if he was a Jet’s fan, he said he was a Giant’s fan. He looked me in the eye and said, “I wish we would have drafted that Dawnawld guy!” Kinda surprised me, but he’s lived out here twenty years. Can’t wait to talk to him again. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenReaper Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 3 hours ago, johnnysd said: People forget that the Jets were a couple plays away from going to 2 consecutive Super Bowls. And we were good enough to win them. What would the world be like if Sanchez was a 2 time SB winner. Still would be our QB I guess. I wonder how it would've turned out if Darnold was the QB in that Rex Ryan Era? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 5 hours ago, WayneChrebet80 said: It will be interesting to see which QB has a better career. I’ll go with Jones simply because the Giants are a better organization and I have no confidence in Gase. Ban this guy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 Jones is the same age as Sam. By the time this kid Jones actually gets on the field Darnold will already have a lot of experience under his belt. I don’t know if Jones will be any good or not, he didn’t impress in college like Darnold did. Sam looks like he’ll be at least a top 10 QB in this league. Who knows what Jones will turn into. I don’t think there are any gms out there who would seriously take Jones over Darnold but ya never know what the future holds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 3 hours ago, Jetmech said: When a team plays in Manhattan it doesn’t matter how bad they are. See Knicks.. Jets wanted the WSS bad. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Agreed. Would have been great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 6 hours ago, WayneChrebet80 said: It will be interesting to see which QB has a better career. I’ll go with Jones simply because the Giants are a better organization and I have no confidence in Gase. My God. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 7 hours ago, JustEndTheSuffering said: This is all true but you can say those things about so many Super Bowls. There so many “if” situations in Super Bowl history. You have somewhat of a point, but these were occurrences that happened at either the very last play of the game or with the Giants backs totally to the wall with the games very close to being over time wise.....that isn’t all that easy to find in SB history, with many of them being one sided games of course. Revisiting that 20 year run they had before drafting Taylor. The Jets, with their terrible owners after Werblin and awful front offices never even had it that bad. So yes, I’d say if you look at the Giants over a long time frame I’d say they are “overrated”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Rhg1084 said: Jones is the same age as Sam. By the time this kid Jones actually gets on the field Darnold will already have a lot of experience under his belt. I don’t know if Jones will be any good or not, he didn’t impress in college like Darnold did. Sam looks like he’ll be at least a top 10 QB in this league. Who knows what Jones will turn into. I don’t think there are any gms out there who would seriously take Jones over Darnold but ya never know what the future holds. Jones looks like he has a rag arm. I thought this immediately, then later read a quote from some commentator lamenting that Jones is “Pennington after the surgeries”. I wouldn’t go that far, but I do know, just by my initial impression, I personally would be very unhappy if the Jets drafted Jones to be their potential Franchise QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 2 hours ago, GreenReaper said: I wonder how it would've turned out if Darnold was the QB in that Rex Ryan Era? Darnold would have done great. He just passed his initial test with flying colors, playing for possibly the worst coach in NFL history, a horrific OC, along with said HCs best friend who he made DC and who shall never come close to being a DC again who could never hold a lead Darnold generated. Rex Ryan gets way too bad a rap. Granted the last few years there wasn’t enough talent to hide Sanchez and bad drafts had seriously weakened his D, so his act got stale...but it can never be forgotten that the man was 60 minutes from the SB in consecutive seasons with Mark Sanchez as his QB. That is a significant accomplishment. He also sent Bowles packing in a must win game for the Jets playing with 1/2 his team that hadn’t even practiced that week....Darnold would have been in a better situation under Ryan than he was in his rookie year. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 6 hours ago, nyjunc said: In SB XXV the kick for the game was neat 50 yards on chewed up grass in an era where kickers didn't routinely nail 50+ yarders. The Giants offense did an amazing job of keeping the high powered Bills off the field. They held the ball for over 40 minutes, basically if they had it 30 seconds less then Buffalo gets a FG attempt under 40 and the bills win. Incredible job by the O. Very good point. I always envied the coaching staff the Giants put together compared to the Jets. Great game planning there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 14 hours ago, johnnysd said: People forget that the Jets were a couple plays away from going to 2 consecutive Super Bowls. And we were good enough to win them. What would the world be like if Sanchez was a 2 time SB winner. Still would be our QB I guess. It would be like Eli with the Giants. People can make fun of my opinion on this all they want but Mark and Eli are very similar. Both turned it over a lot, both could look bad for 3 qtrs then play great late to help a team won, both helped their teams on 2 runs led by defense. The biggest differences were that Eli's D's played great in championship games while Mark's did not and the Giants keep adding talent around Eli while the Jets took away all the talent and expected him to get better. If the Jets D plays great in those 2 title games and eventually SBs and the Jets won then mark turns into what Eli Manning became which was untouchable despite being an average QB. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
static14 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 This thread should be burned to ash. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 15 hours ago, NYs Stepchild said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 11 hours ago, JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF said: Very good point. I always envied the coaching staff the Giants put together compared to the Jets. Great game planning there. And now the giants have Bowles 2.0 and just created a qb controversy while staffing a soon to be bottom 5 defense 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 7 hours ago, nyjunc said: It would be like Eli with the Giants. People can make fun of my opinion on this all they want but Mark and Eli are very similar. Both turned it over a lot, both could look bad for 3 qtrs then play great late to help a team won, both helped their teams on 2 runs led by defense. The biggest differences were that Eli's D's played great in championship games while Mark's did not and the Giants keep adding talent around Eli while the Jets took away all the talent and expected him to get better. If the Jets D plays great in those 2 title games and eventually SBs and the Jets won then mark turns into what Eli Manning became which was untouchable despite being an average QB. I agree 100% with your opinion. Sanchez is not why we lost those Championship games, and lets face it if we could tackle Rapelisburger in the 4th quarter we win that game. I often think Sanchez could have been much better than he was had he had a different situation to start his career. He was a better QB out of college than year 3. Rex sort of ruined him. But yes I view Sanchez and Eli as basically the same, just Eli just had things go his way and the defense did not choke. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman10023 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 19 hours ago, GreenReaper said: I wonder how it would've turned out if Darnold was the QB in that Rex Ryan Era? 2 superbowl appearances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 On 4/29/2019 at 1:34 PM, WayneChrebet80 said: It will be interesting to see which QB has a better career. I’ll go with Jones simply because the Giants are a better organization and I have no confidence in Gase. Giants have been the worst franchise in nfl since Coughlin left 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 23 minutes ago, johnnysd said: I agree 100% with your opinion. Sanchez is not why we lost those Championship games, and lets face it if we could tackle Rapelisburger in the 4th quarter we win that game. I often think Sanchez could have been much better than he was had he had a different situation to start his career. He was a better QB out of college than year 3. Rex sort of ruined him. But yes I view Sanchez and Eli as basically the same, just Eli just had things go his way and the defense did not choke. The Giants were consistently bringing in more talent for him on an annual basis. The Jets stopped after year 2 and that's where his career went South. You could win with Eli or mark as long as you surrounded them with enough talent. They weren't the type to elevate those around them but they could compete in big games/moments with the right talent around them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 12 minutes ago, Jetsplayer21 said: Giants have been the worst franchise in nfl since Coughlin left They were pretty bad at the end of the Coughlin years too. People forget they had missed the playoffs 6 of his last 7 years there then won 11 games and made the playoffs the first year after he left. McAdoo had a plan to move on from Eli but social media outrage cost him his job when he was doing the right thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, nyjunc said: They were pretty bad at the end of the Coughlin years too. People forget they had missed the playoffs 6 of his last 7 years there then won 11 games and made the playoffs the first year after he left. McAdoo had a plan to move on from Eli but social media outrage cost him his job when he was doing the right thing. Who was the plan geno Smith ??♂️? mcadoo lost the lockerroom, they hated him and wouldn’t play for him. He knew he was gone end of yr. Mcdoodle decided only way to save his job was a Hail Mary, and show he could win with a mobile qb. Like geno ?? reese Made some dumb moves too like like their current gm. The franchise should have traded Eli when he had some value.. They needed a complete rebuild years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 20 hours ago, kevinc855 said: Ban this guy ban both these guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 24 minutes ago, Jetsplayer21 said: Who was the plan geno Smith ??♂️? mcadoo lost the lockerroom, they hated him and wouldn’t play for him. He knew he was gone end of yr. Mcdoodle decided only way to save his job was a Hail Mary, and show he could win with a mobile qb. Like geno ?? reese Made some dumb moves too like like their current gm. The franchise should have traded Eli when he had some value.. They needed a complete rebuild years ago It wasn't about Geno, it was about ending the streak that was holding the franchise hostage and then moving on from Eli after the season. It was a smart plan but they buckled to social media nitwits and here they are 3 years later stuck in the same spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sackdance Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 On 4/29/2019 at 1:54 PM, New York Mick said: Jones can turnout to be Montana 2.0 but the pick is still stupid. They could of drafted ten other players at 6 and still got Jones. Jones ceiling is Lauletta 2.0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sackdance Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 29 minutes ago, Jetsplayer21 said: Who was the plan geno Smith ??♂️? mcadoo lost the lockerroom, they hated him and wouldn’t play for him. He knew he was gone end of yr. Mcdoodle decided only way to save his job was a Hail Mary, and show he could win with a mobile qb. Like geno ?? reese Made some dumb moves too like like their current gm. The franchise should have traded Eli when he had some value.. They needed a complete rebuild years ago McAdoo was pounding the table for Patrick Mahomes. Reese & the Maras knew better - then McAdoo was the perfect scapegoat for the inept post-Coughlin Giants. Fact is, the team has gotten worse post-McAdoo. Join me friends, in weeping for our big blue cousins. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 why even compare the two? The Giants suck. Daniel Jones sucks. period. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Killa7 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 10 minutes ago, southtown24th said: why even compare the two? The Giants suck. Daniel Jones sucks. period. I like this guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 27 minutes ago, sackdance said: Jones ceiling is Lauletta 2.0 No one knows how good or bad he’ll be and it’s not the reason the G fans flipped out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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