****OFFICIAL JETS VS SAINTS ATTRITION BOWL GAME THREAD****

[Jet_Engine1]

9 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

Weapons don’t matter.

Lmfao.

Nobody here has said that. Nobody but the strawman in your head, which is apparently firmly shoved somewhere dark....The problem is that the QB sucks and can't even make simple, routine throws consistently.

 

He is making average NFL "passcatchers" have to try to make circus catches because he is inaccurate. Period. 

 

Stick to your nonsense.  I'm sure you were one of the same guys here defending Sanchez, Geno, and Sam before Zach.

 

They either have it or they don't. We knew Joe Burrow and Murray were legit almost immediately.  We saw the physical talent of Josh Allen.

 

Zach is more Danny Dimes or Josh Rosen.....or a lesser Sam Darnold than any of those other guys so far. 

 

Different receivers ain't making the guy more accurate, bigger, or able to feel a pocket better. 

[phill1c]

2 minutes ago, RSJ said:

 

Idk who told you its like this but its not true. You can be competitive in a rebuild. I read the stats about rookies starting and it leading to more wins - but that stat is totally flawed. It includes teams like Cleveland that were bad for years, always starting a young team until they actually got people in there that could pick players and coach. You rebuild ans you start trying to win day one. Thats it. End of the way to do it.


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And sometimes you're NOT competitive at the beginning. Why should they be competitive coming off a 2-14 season? What about this team says "competitive"? the Run defense? The pass defense? The OL? The kicking game? WHAT?

[Bleedin Green]

So I mean, Wilson just had a no-INT game

#THEFRANCHISE!!

[Rangers1]

5 minutes ago, sciond said:

LOL even the announcer sums it up at the end

Yes he did

[ultraJETfan]

10 minutes ago, Mike135 said:

Does Zach look like he's made any improvement from week 1?

Looks worse

[sec101row23]

Flat out abysmal.   Zach is regressing, climbing back into the womb regression.  Sad to see. 

[phill1c]

1 minute ago, Bugg said:

As if being Norman Vincent Peale would change the suck that is Zach Wilson. 

it wouldn't make it worse...like here, in the heart of the team's fan base...

LOL, yeah, I don't believe it either.

[munchmemory]

8 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Ben is dumb in real life but he processed on the field just fine. 

Terry Bradshaw was the same way.

Wilson has a dumb, slow football brain and he’s inaccurate to boot. 

Maybe he finds understudy work in Wicked once Broadway reopens.

[Jetsfan80]

43 minutes ago, JTJet said:

Enlighten me. 

Where else should he have put it to make a okay and avoid an interception? 

Enlighten me.

What has Zach done well today?  How many good throws did he have out of 42 attempts?

[Mogglez]

4 minutes ago, Darnold's Forehead said:

Lol where have you been the past 3 years.

What does the last 3 years have to do with this year genius. Players falling off is a thing.

[Rangers1]

Get another Alabama quarterback 

[genot]

9 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

You still haven’t changed your opinion on a day where he played some of the worst QB of any QB this season.

Id rather see someone willing to change their opinion than someone who doubles down on a terrible take.

He's suffering from Genot syndrome. If you know what I mean. It's curable

[munchmemory]

Final Zack Wilson #'s: 19/42, 203.   Good friggin' lord.

[RSJ]

And sometimes you're NOT competitive at the beginning. Why should they be competitive coming off a 2-14 season? What about this team says "competitive"? the Run defense? The pass defense? The OL? The kicking game? WHAT?

Bro they are worse than last season. They had an offseason with the most cap in the league and two first round picks. They arent going to get close to the Vegas over/under of 6 wins. This is a colossal failure on every level. The defense is much much worse. The QB play and offense, worse. Huge failure. You honestly think this is the first year of a potential rebuild? Lol


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[bostonmajet]

15 minutes ago, Irish Jet said:

White, Flacco and Johnson all looked like NFL caliber QB's on the same team.

Quincy Carter and Brooks Bollinger also played better than Zach. 

White had a great game and then a terrible game. That being said, it is about Wilson this year. Carter and Brooks were way worse - your unhappiness with Zack is messing with your memory.

[Prodigal Syndicate]

3 minutes ago, ZachEY said:

Seems like many already do.  Some will be next season.  Others, never.

Darnold had defenders all the way up to the trade 

[Cut Jet Penalty Makers]

5 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

The longer Wilson continues to suck like this, the more the rest of the team is going to turn on him and the coaches.

You have to put someone new in just to ensure the locker room doesn’t cave in. 

We're already there.

[jeremy2020]

1 minute ago, phill1c said:

And sometimes you're NOT competitive at the beginning. Why should they be competitive coming off a 2-14 season? What about this team says "competitive"? the Run defense? The pass defense? The OL? The kicking game? WHAT?

Point me to the GM that led a rebuild of more than 3 years that did not make the playoffs by year 3 of their tenure, but then went on to make the playoffs (and bonus points for made the playoffs more than once after that).

We'll define 'rebuild' as a team that did not make the playoffs and had less than 50% wins for 2 years in a row prior to the new GM. 

[sec101row23]

Just now, munchmemory said:

Final Zack Wilson #'s: 19/42, 203.   Good friggin' lord.

8 of those completions and 100 of those yards were in complete garbage time.   It was way worse than the final numbers. 

[jeremy2020]

1 minute ago, Prodigal Syndicate said:

Darnold had defenders all the way up to the trade 

You probably wouldn't be surprised who some of them were...

[Greenbloodblitz]

Just a gut feeling but I'm starting to get the vibe that the players don't like Zach Wilson.

If you watch the post game show on SNY you can tell these guys don't like him either.

Don't know if it's a performance thing or a personal thing, just my opinion.

[Prodigal Syndicate]

2 minutes ago, munchmemory said:

Final Zack Wilson #'s: 19/42, 203.   Good friggin' lord.

And I think 100 of those yards came in garbage time with the saints playing soft and allowing easy completions.

[playtowinthegame]

Zach Rosen

Robert Wilks

[IndianaJet]

I’m so done with Zach I just unfollowed his mom on Instagram. 

[Jetsfan80]

42 minutes ago, Gastineau Lives said:

With all the things I should feel bad about in my life, this is way down the list. I'll get to it soon. Be patient.

The Rectal Massage Lounge has to be top 5 right?

[RevisIsland610]

1 minute ago, Prodigal Syndicate said:

Darnold had defenders all the way up to the trade 

Yup. I defended him for the first 2 years. Not going to be blinded this time. Zach Wilson has been trash this entire year. His inaccuracy on those short gimme plays is indefensible. Not many, if any, QB's have been worse. 

[RSJ]

I’m so done with Zach I just unfollowed his mom on Instagram. 

Thats pretty extreme dude.


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[Prodigal Syndicate]

1 minute ago, Greenbloodblitz said:

Just a gut feeling but I'm starting to get the vibe that the players don't like Zach Wilson.

If you watch the post game show on SNY you can tell these guys don't like him either.

Don't know if it's a performance thing or a personal thing, just my opinion.

Zack Wilson looks like the biggest challenge he had faced in his life before this was his butler had to take a day off and he had to put his own pants on once.

[Jetsfan80]

42 minutes ago, Guilhermezmc said:

99% of the world population won't make 17 million in their lives, CJ Mosley is making that every year to be outplayed by a waiver wire LB

[The Crusher]

1 hour ago, Smashmouth said:

Ken you really can't be serious. The only game White played bad in and still threw for the second most yards against behind Mahomes was the Bills game. But that somehow did not deserve another chance while we watch this sh*t show train wreck of a QB embarrass the sh*t out of himself and his organization 

As long as we have posted together this is the most I’ve ever agreed you, 

[DetroitRed]

2 minutes ago, Greenbloodblitz said:

Just a gut feeling but I'm starting to get the vibe that the players don't like Zach Wilson.

If you watch the post game show on SNY you can tell these guys don't like him either.

Don't know if it's a performance thing or a personal thing, just my opinion.

Oh brother.  Can we just stick to what we know and not make sh*t up? Zach was terrible

[Jetsfan80]

42 minutes ago, Cut Jet Penalty Makers said:

Garbage time stats for ZW coming right up.

He’s not even good at that.  Even Josh Johnson was able to produce against a soft zone. 

[Prodigal Syndicate]

Just now, RevisIsland610 said:

Yup. I defended him for the first 2 years. Not going to be blinded this time. Zach Wilson has been trash this entire year. His inaccuracy on those short gimme plays is indefensible. Not many, if any, QB's have been worse. 

I think all of us have defended at least 1 of sanchez, geno, darnold too long then we should have. It happens.

[Warfish]

5 minutes ago, munchmemory said:

Final Zack Wilson #'s: 19/42, 203.   Good friggin' lord.

And a goodly chunk of that was late in trash time.

[Green Ghost]

1 hour ago, munchmemory said:

Not a dig against you at all.   But why do you think he will be "great some day"?   This kid looks every bit the QB who played in a POS conference with no real experience against top flight defenses.   Every game, Zack looks confused and unable to make simple throws that guys like Mike White (another JAG) were able to complete and operate this offense.

I’ll go you one better my friend, and I’m being dead serious when I say it….

On the drive with 10 minutes left he looked scared out there, and that’s something I’ve never said about a professional football player.