****OFFICIAL JETS VS SAINTS ATTRITION BOWL GAME THREAD****

[fltflo]

How can we win, take Zack out


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[Jetsfan80]

36 minutes ago, phill1c said:

Look at him: He's a fuc*king baby. I don't expect him to be as great as he thinks he can be.

Remember when people talked about Darnold’s age for 4 years

[ZachEY]

5 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said:

That’s debatable.  He was pretty bad as a thrower.  Really bad actually.  

Allen had a higher QB rating, and much higher QBR, and much lower INT%, with a much better TD/INT ratio.  And those numbers don’t include todays absolute gem by Wilson.

[Jet_Engine1]

2 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

Only absolutely clueless people think that “weapons” don’t mean anything in football 

[Bleedin Green]

Just now, Mogglez said:

Not according to JN.  According to JN, weapons don’t matter and the QB needs to perform the same way throwing to DJ Montgomery.

This isn't a one-game outlier.  It's his entire professional career.

[varjet]

The problem or hard part or grim reality with concluding Wilson is no good is that pretty much means JD can’t draft, when you add Becton over Wirfs.  So if that is the case you cut the cord 

Woody must be going nuts, and he did not hire JD or Saleh.  
 

The season is cooked.  Keep playing Wilson and see what he does.  

[heymangold]

6 minutes ago, Jetlife33 said:

 

Still should be caught.

[Prodigal Syndicate]

5 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

“Professional pass catchers” make that grab.

Professional QBs dont make receivers contort their bodies on almost every throw on what should be routine passes.

[heymangold]

Just now, Bleedin Green said:

This isn't a one-game outlier.  It's his entire professional career.

All 9 games?

[phill1c]

7 minutes ago, Stark said:

Dude I can understand a couple of horrible mistakes or missed passes. This kid is a regular for those. 
 

font try to sell me a bill of goods. Zach can’t make easy passes and it’s literally costing us this game

Which would seem to be among the easier things to learn, with time. 

We lost this game, which actually helps draft position. Other than that, it's just about your pain tolerance.

[DetroitRed]

Just now, ZachEY said:

Allen had a higher QB rating, and much higher QBR, and much lower INT%, with a much better TD/INT ratio.  And those numbers don’t include todays absolute gem by Wilson.

He was running 

[Jets4Life1979]

how many passes are these guys gonna drop? Im sorry theres a sh*tload of drops

[Jetsfan80]

36 minutes ago, JTJet said:

Revisionist history. 

This comment was at the half. 

Since the half, he has had a couple more bad ones, but he is still the least of our issues today. 

I said in the post “as of halftime”

[August]

Montgomery can play but Mims has to ride the bench? 

[ausman]

7 minutes ago, Guilhermezmc said:

Update on trevor

At least he’s over 50%.  Zach is what 35%?

[Mogglez]

Weapons don’t matter.

Lmfao.

[heymangold]

Just now, Prodigal Syndicate said:

Professional QBs dont make receivers contort their bodies on almost every throw on what should be routine passes.

I’m sure Tom and Pat haven’t ever thrown a bad ball that was caught.

[Cut Jet Penalty Makers]

Again, ZW locked on one guy only.

[munchmemory]

Good decision by the rookie on fourth down.  lol

[tfine]

Not according to JN.  According to JN, weapons don’t matter and the QB needs to perform the same way throwing to DJ Montgomery.

QBs get paid to throw to WR. WRs don’t get paid the catch.



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[undertow]

Just now, Jetsfan80 said:

Remember when people talked about Darnold’s age for 4 years

And if he is a baby then he should have been on the bench learning this year like some of us were begging for...not only at the start of the season but after he got hurt.

[Spoot-Face]

lol

DJ Montomery sucks

[phill1c]

1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Remember when people talked about Darnold’s age for 4 years

Yep, I remember. But he's MUCH better looking. 

AGain, he's not playing against the worst defense in the league. And a team playing for their playoff lives. 

[IndianaJet]

Lol. Zach’s best pass of the game. 

[ZachEY]

Just now, DetroitRed said:

He was running 

And?  Those are all passing stats.

[Prodigal Syndicate]

Just now, heymangold said:

I’m sure Tom and Pat haven’t ever thrown a bad ball that was caught.

95% of the balls wilson throws are bad balls.

[Bleedin Green]

Just now, Mogglez said:

Weapons don’t matter.

Lmfao.

Throws don't matter.

Lmfao.

[heymangold]

7 minutes ago, Jetluv58 said:

Is the armpit the chest?

Take another look at it, literally bounces off the front of his body. 

[Irish Jet]

????

That 4th and 7 play. This franchise in a nutshell. 

[RSJ]

He’s not ready to throw a 7 yard out on 3 and 10?

Its a little more complicated than that I think. I think when he moves to his second read he has trouble resetting his feet and body. It could be corrected with time. But it should also be obvious in practice if they are practicing the right way. There is also a lot Mac Jones cant do yet. Coaches arent asking him to do it anyway.


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[Saul Goodman]

39 attempts for 151 yards. Unbelievable. 

[AbstraKt]

Nice!! Stop short of the sticks on 4th down!!

Hope NO gets 6 here.

[BallinPB]

3 minutes ago, phill1c said:

He's better than Darnold. But you've but up a really good point:

The difference in talent between QBs is really not that much. So, the trick is to build a team with a guy who you can build around. The Jets have that. Wilson has the physical tools and, I believe, the intelligence to succeed in the NFL. But it's not immediate. It looks bad. But, in the end, A LOT ABOUT THE JETS LOOKS BAD RIGHT NOW. So, I'm not going to start replacing people until SOMETHING looks good.

Now you may say, "Mike White really played well and so did Joe Flacco...better than Wilson."

But I would rebut those facts with:

1. Mike White looked just as flummoxed as Wilson in his 4-INT game. And White doesn't have the physical talent to be a starting QB in the league, as evidenced by the fact that nobody else has him starting.

2. Father Time (Joe Flacco) is not a starting QB in the league anymore. 

3. The Jets need continuity. Wilson has the physical tools. He's not there mentally. But no rookies are NOR should be expected to be. 

4. The Jets are a complete rebuild. They look bad all over. So, I'm not changing starters at DL just because the Jets give up the most yardage running hte ball. I'm not going to start drafting RBs high because RBs were hurt. I'm not going to jettison Mims just because of this one game. NOthing stupid or hysterical. I'm looking at the BIG PICTURE, not whining about individual plays or halves or games.

 

Who’s better than Darnold?  I hope you aren’t saying Wilson is.  

[munchmemory]

199 total yards today boys.  Tell me how we're a pro level team.

[maury77]

2 minutes ago, ZachEY said:

Allen had a higher QB rating, and much higher QBR, and much lower INT%, with a much better TD/INT ratio.  And those numbers don’t include todays absolute gem by Wilson.

Plus Allen was a running threat. Do you think Allen would have slid so early on that long run like Wilson did in the first half?