NIGHT STALKER Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 Cleveland Browns Miami Dolphins Jacksonville Jaguars Chicago Bears Detroit Lions https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2954024-top-5-potential-landing-spots-for-dallas-cowboys-wr-amari-cooper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jetstream23 Posted March 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Cooper mopes when everything isn’t going right. So does most of this message board. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hael Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 The Jets definitely will need to compete for this guy. We aren't exactly the most desirable spot in the world for FAs, so you do have to somewhat overpay. Having said that we desperately need a true number 1, and Cooper (while not a completely elite WR) is definitely a number 1. I think if we bring someone like this on, a really proper evaluation of ZW can be had this season, and I suspect we aren't going to like the answer. However, its better to know, than to have to linger on for years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 7 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: So does most of this message board. Most of this board isn’t due 20 mill next year . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 12 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: While he's paid a lot and probably isn't quite in the category of the guys he's lumped with, the flexibility is key, as is the fact that he's the youngest guy on the list of highest paid WRs. Trading something like a Day 3 pick for him and having the ability to release him at any point with no dead cap is very appealing to a guy like JD. It might be best to get that done before we see a bunch of other WRs get their new deals with 2022 salary levels in free agency. Those truly elite guys are going to be making closer to $25m+ going forward. Hopkins led the way and Adams will be next. There’s only a handful of them. $20m, while it may still be high for Cooper, is no longer a contract for an elite WR. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 26 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Cooper mopes when everything isn’t going right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 9 hours ago, Lith said: I think there's a typo in that tweet. What's "Commanders"? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 AC Green! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted March 5, 2022 Author Share Posted March 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: I think there's a typo in that tweet. What's "Commanders"? Washington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, Lith said: Washington Heh, I was kidding. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted March 5, 2022 Author Share Posted March 5, 2022 Just now, TuscanyTile2 said: Heh, I was kidding. Don't you just hate it when you make a joke and some dumbass is too stupid to realize it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Lith said: Don't you just hate it when you make a joke and some dumbass is too stupid to realize it. Nah, it was a kind of weak joke. But I'll probably keep saying it because I still enjoy poking fun at that ridiculous name they chose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 I’d be very careful about paying Cooper right now. I think his best days are behind him and you would be paying for past production. I don’t think JD is that desperate yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 10 hours ago, Bronx said: Bengals would probably be his preferred destination. if the Bengals needed WR's then sure but they don't and have other needs to sure up that team 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 4 hours ago, sec101row23 said: I’d be very careful about paying Cooper right now. I think his best days are behind him and you would be paying for past production. I don’t think JD is that desperate yet. He’s 27 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sperm Edwards Posted March 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 5, 2022 sJoe W. Namath 14 hours ago, Columbia Jet Fan said: If he truly will be released I agree 100% with this post. He will likely not want to sign w/ the Jets in FA b/c of condition of team + tax implications. If we're competing w/ Jaguars or Dolphins we'd have to pay an additional 10% to match the contracts. Maybe MAYBE you can get him for slightly less than the 20mm per year in the FA market but my guess is you'd have to give him a lot more guaranteed money. If the Jets trade for him does anyone know what his cap hit would be next year? Its not the full $22mm on OTC correct? Cowboys have to eat some the same way we had to eat some of Darnold's contract this year based off guaranteed money correct? So if we trade for him (call it a fifth) - we have probably one year at 16-20mm based on how much money Dallas eats. After that yes his cap will go up to prob 20mm plus but they can cut him for free, and have the option to keep him if he lives up to the contract. I think its well worth the flyer considering what Golladay got in FA last year ($18mm/yr). If you add 10% to that based on the cap going up ~10% its basically equal to the Golladay contract. Trade for him JD. 5% not 10%. All of his compensation is salary and that's based on where the game's played. Half the games are home games therefore half are at the 10-11% state tax rate. The other games it's those states (e.g. it's 0% when we play an away game vs Miami). He's also not coming off an injury like Golladay. If KG was coming off a second straight 1100 yard season, or had 3+ 1000-yard seasons under his belt, he'd have gotten more than $18MM per. 12 hours ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: No one is "Against" Cooper, merely against paying him 20 million a year for X years as he nears 30. It'd be a 1-year contract for the Jets if they don't want him anymore. Cooper and Davis would both be annual reassessments at the team's pleasure because neither would have any guaranteed $ coming to them after 2022. They could keep one, both, or neither as they see fit. There'd be no long term investment, especially if they don't have to pony up a high pick in the first place. 11 hours ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: First off, why are we trading a draft pick for a player the Cowboys are going to release? Second, what makes you think he doesn't have guaranteed money left? Pretty sure the remaining 3 years of his contract (at a whopping 22 million a year) becomes guaranteed if he isn't cut by March 20th. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/amari-cooper-16728/ If they're going to release him then it's a no-brainer to throw a late pick at him - even if it was a pick in 2023 ffs - because something is better than nothing to Dallas, so there's a good chance at least one team will ante up at least something. So the reasons are: 1. There's no bidding war after he gets released, and there's no concern that he might take a couple bucks less to play someplace else with a proven QB, better weather, lower taxes, maybe where his family lives, etc. 2. The Jets would be inheriting a contract with 1 guaranteed season rather than the 2 guaranteed seasons it'd take to get him as a UFA. i.e. it's a lower guaranteed investment to trade for him than hope to be the high bidder in FA. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 I’d defo sign Cooper, but he’s got have options, and the Jets isn’t one of them. Unless we overpay, none of the tier one Free Agents are coming here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 SIGN THIS BEAST!!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 15 minutes ago, BurnleyJet said: I’d defo sign Cooper, but he’s got have options, and the Jets isn’t one of them. Unless we overpay, none of the tier one Free Agents are coming here. Every free agent goes to the highest bidder. Unless Tom Brady tells them to do something different. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sperm Edwards Posted March 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 5, 2022 7 hours ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: Last year with Dak, he had only 3 weeks with over 80 yards receiving. Corey Davis had 3 weeks with over 80 yards with the Jets and he missed multiple games. Is that DiNucci's fault also? Not exactly an apples & apples comparison: The 2022 Jets didn't have Lamb and Schultz eating up 224 targets (let alone Gallup/Wilson another 120 on top of that). Remove Lamb + Schultz from the mix and it's unlikely Cooper's numbers would've remained as low. Plus Moore barely saw the field in 2 of those 3 80-yard games of his because of his slow start. Week 1 was without not just Moore, really, but Crowder + Cole as well. 6 hours ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: Probably because cowboys fans don't understand the salary cap. It's a salary cap move for Dallas because they're currently ~$20MM over the cap and have 1/3 of their team hitting FA in a week & a half. They'll be right up against the cap still, even after they cut Lawrence, probably designating as a post-6/1 cut to save more on this year's cap, but regardless will still carry a decent nut for Lawrence even after he's cut; They've locked themselves into $40MM/year for Dak, and have already used up the cheap year 1 + with the fake voidable year 5 they've built in a future $13MM extra cap hit in '25 whether they re-extend him then or not; They have Zach Martin's cap number way up over $20MM because - like with Lawrence - they kept his cap number artificially low; in Martin's case, they did it in 3 of the past 4 seasons; They have a RB carrying an $18MM cap hit and a LT at about the same and a RT at $15MM and with all that cap space tied up, they still have the following guys hitting FA on March 16th, so they will take a big hit in performance if they lose all of them: TE Schultz WR Gallup WR Wilson G Williams OLB Gregory OLB Vander Esch SS Kazee FS Kearse LB/S Neal FS2 Hooker -- btw, a guy the Jets should look at in FA; no, he didn't turn into Ed Reed II but we've fielded worse, he's a young veteran who'll still be just 26 this season, and he won't be a bank-breaking placeholder heading into the draft. P Anger And simply put, Dallas doesn't truly need him anymore after hitting on Lamb. That $20MM is far better spent making sure they don't lose Schultz, and maybe retaining Gallup (or Wilson if Gallup's too expensive) or a defender or two. They can't have afford to have $20MM more hit the cap for another year of Cooper, considering they need others more than they need him. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 The Jets need impact players and are competing against the rest of the league for them. JD needs to aggressively bid for those players he thinks can and will make a difference-if he loses he drives up the cost for other teams. Cooper, Schultz, Marcus Williams, JC Jackson/Carlton Davis are those type of players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 10 hours ago, bla bla bla said: Send our 4th and get it done ASAP. BTW, right on spot at 4:00 truth to be told. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 4 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: He’s 27 He doesn’t move the same way, he’s an old 27. If he was the same player I think the Cowboys would find a way to keep him and restructure him. They don’t see value in him at his current price. I’d rather someone else make the mistake in giving him big money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 13 minutes ago, sec101row23 said: He doesn’t move the same way, he’s an old 27. If he was the same player I think the Cowboys would find a way to keep him and restructure him. They don’t see value in him at his current price. I’d rather someone else make the mistake in giving him big money. Well I'm sure Cooper wants to hit FA since he hasn't been able to yet. If I were Cooper I'd force Dallas to pay me $20m or cut me, it's why that deal was built the way it was. If I had to guess the Cowboys are kicking themselves for paying Zeke and they got unlucky with Gallup tearing the ACL at the end of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 Jets should go after him. And still consider a WR in the top 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, Barton said: Jets should go after him. And still consider a WR in the top 10. Id be aggressive as all hell bringing in receivers and backs. The Jets wont though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Id be aggressive as all hell bringing in receivers and backs. The Jets wont though. Yup. a RB is definitely needed. I'm guessing the Jets will use wayy too many picks and dollars on the defense though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, Barton said: Yup. a RB is definitely needed. I'm guessing the Jets will use wayy too many picks and dollars on the defense though. Endless DT's and DB's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 7 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Endless DT's and DB's. Endless. Like JD has done often. Or anyone actually Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 10 minutes ago, Barton said: Yup. a RB is definitely needed. I'm guessing the Jets will use wayy too many picks and dollars on the defense though. Finding a RB is relatively easy and cheap. On O they need to upgrade G, TE and WR....otherwise they really can and should load up on D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Endless. Like JD has done often. Or anyone actually I hope! The Jets desperately need depth at the skill positions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 Just now, Matt39 said: I hope! The Jets desperately need depth at the skill positions. We need to get help at CB and healthy at DT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 12 hours ago, jetstream23 said: So does most of this message board. Nah most of us were okay until it got to over a decade of not making the playoffs that'll make a guy kerrrankypants. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowles Movement Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 15 hours ago, Mogglez said: Yeah, so I don’t think you watch the Cowboys as much as you claim you do. Playing with a top QB in a passing offense- 2 100 yd games, 8 TDs and 865yds. In 17 games! Average 12.7yds per catch? Surrounded by talent so the D can’t key on him? For that we could have kept Robby Anderson for half the price. And you think that’s worth 20 million a yr? Mogglez I’m surprised at you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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