Schefter: Cowboys Likey to Release Amari Cooper

[Big_Slick]

2 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said:

Why not? I hope Cooper uses the Jets to get more money from another team. The more Cooper gets the less money that other team will have to spend on other players the Jets may want. 

Just tired of the Jets being used and discarded like a .....

[Rhg1084]

 

[Bronx]

2 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said:

 

Dick Jones should know better.

[derp]

19 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Your smart enough to know that anything that comes out of anyones mouth at the scouting combine is worthless.

Im talking about listening to what he told you about how he wants to build this team.

I am trying to save you all the trouble of bitching and moaning when Davante Adams, Saquon Barkley, Allen Robinson, Amari Cooper etc are nowhere near this team after FA.

Most of those aren't trade candidates or guys I’d be interested in.

He’s talked about being opportunistic in the trade market and admiring the Bills for a while. That’s not a lip service “we’re always going to build the lines” comment or a “we’ll always draft good players regardless of position. And the Bills align with the way he drafts and does free agency? I get wanting to misdirect when it comes to drafting players but what’s the value of pretending to be open to exploring the trade market?

And the comment about increased certainty of what you’re getting in the veteran market is just true. It’s reasonable to think that it’s more important to be confident in what they're getting to support Zach Wilson than worry about contract structure at this stage of his development.

[Columbia Jet Fan]

30 minutes ago, GreenFish said:

Then why not just trade for him? It’ll be 3yrs $60m no guarantees if we trade him.

Personally, I think he’ll sign in the ARob, Mike Williams, and Godwin range. Those guys are projected to sign between 16-18m per year. 

If he truly will be released I agree 100% with this post. He will likely not want to sign w/ the Jets in FA b/c of condition of team + tax implications. If we're competing w/ Jaguars or Dolphins we'd have to pay an additional 10% to match the contracts. 

Maybe MAYBE you can get him for slightly less than the 20mm per year in the FA market but my guess is you'd have to give him a lot more guaranteed money. If the Jets trade for him does anyone know what his cap hit would be next year? Its not the full $22mm on OTC correct? Cowboys have to eat some the same way we had to eat some of Darnold's contract this year based off guaranteed money correct? 

So if we trade for him (call it a fifth) - we have probably one year at 16-20mm based on how much money Dallas eats. After that yes his cap will go up to prob 20mm plus but they can cut him for free, and have the option to keep him if he lives up to the contract. I think its well worth the flyer considering what Golladay got in FA last year ($18mm/yr). If you add 10% to that based on the cap going up ~10% its basically equal to the Golladay contract. 

Trade for him JD. 

 

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

This is such a no brainer for JD. Throw them a pick and make it happen. 

[The Crusher]

9 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said:

 

 

Now do Corey Davis! Uhhh, nevermind 

[chirorob]

1 hour ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said:

You could roll the dice on one of the top WRs in the draft or know exactly what you are getting with Cooper. Do it. This would be money well spent in the name of finding out if Zach Wilson is the guy.

Thing is with Cooper, he is already a vet who will run the correct patterns.

A rookie WR will likely have some help next year, but won't typically be a major addition to the offense until year 2 or 3.

[Bronx]

2 minutes ago, Columbia Jet Fan said:

Maybe MAYBE you can get him for slightly less than the 20mm per year in the FA

Q. What is 10m x year to get the real deal? 

A. "You are going to be a Jet 4 life." - JD 

[peebag]

58 minutes ago, IndianaJet said:

Well...now that's gonna be stuck in my head all day....

f*ckin' Iowagens.

[LAD_Brooklyn]

Albert Wilson and Gesicki are free agents. Miami has the most cap space and is the birth town of Amari Cooper. Jets better collect some money together to spend on some DBs as the Dolphins will have Parker, Cooper and Waddle. Meanwhile the Bills are said to be interested in drafting a WR in the 1st round as if they already don't have enough. Can you imagine them adding Burke, Wilson or London? Jets better take that Cooper money and invest in some DBs. 

[Joe W. Namath]

5 minutes ago, chirorob said:

Thing is with Cooper, he is already a vet who will run the correct patterns.

A rookie WR will likely have some help next year, but won't typically be a major addition to the offense until year 2 or 3.

Huh?  Jamar Chase was phenominal last year.  Waddle set a record for most catches by a rookie in nfl history.  Amron St Brown was the best reciever in the nfl the last 5 weeks of the season.  When Elijah moore was healthy, he was great for us.  Davonta smith almost had 1,000 yards receiving with bad qb play.

Rookie wrs come in nowadays and produce right away!

[Jethead]

No way the Cowboys release Cooper. Zip, zero, nada. If Dallas decides to move him, the Jets have the capital to acquire him if they want to spend it.

[chirorob]

2 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Huh?  Jamar Chase was phenominal last year.  Waddle set a record for most catches by a rookie in nfl history.  Amron St Brown was the best reciever in the nfl the last 5 weeks of the season.  When Elijah moore was healthy, he was great for us.  Davonta smith almost had 1,000 yards receiving with bad qb play.

Rookie wrs come in nowadays and produce right away!

Ok, #1, there is no Jamar Chase coming out this year, let alone a WR of that quality who is re uniting with his college QB.  Moore got much better as the season went on, early on he was not a huge help.  That is not a knock on him, new offense, the line took time, he took time, Zach took time.

You can not bank on a rookie WR giving  you 70 and 1000.    Cooper, you can bank on (if healthy) 70 and 1000 yards, and use that pick on another hole on the roster, the Jets certainly have enough of them.

[RVAJet815]

55 minutes ago, GreenFish said:

Then why not just trade for him? It’ll be 3yrs $60m no guarantees if we trade him.

Personally, I think he’ll sign in the ARob, Mike Williams, and Godwin range. Those guys are projected to sign between 16-18m per year. 

This is basically the Cowboys soliciting offers. That's why you get the leak to Schefter. I'm pretty confident some team will throw a pick or two at them before they'd actually cut him. You can always get him and try to restructure the deal a bit, but you'd probably have to extend it too. 

[Joe W. Namath]

9 minutes ago, chirorob said:

Ok, #1, there is no Jamar Chase coming out this year, let alone a WR of that quality who is re uniting with his college QB.  Moore got much better as the season went on, early on he was not a huge help.  That is not a knock on him, new offense, the line took time, he took time, Zach took time.

You can not bank on a rookie WR giving  you 70 and 1000.    Cooper, you can bank on (if healthy) 70 and 1000 yards, and use that pick on another hole on the roster, the Jets certainly have enough of them.

Well, 4 receivers did it last year and if moore is healthy, it would have been 5.   Garrett Wilson is an elite talent and can easily put up the stats the rookies I mentioned did this upcoming year.

[HighPitch]

Man screw this. Too expensive. He isnt doninant. Just grab wilson/burkes/london

[peekskill68]

From what I've seen JD is more of a Walmart guy than a Saks guy when it comes to FA.  I see a better shot of him kicking the tires on Ridley and trying to get him at a discount vs. paying big bucks for Cooper...

[More Cowbell]

1 hour ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Joe Douglas will have 0 interest in an over priced player like Amari Cooper.  We have tons of draft picks for a reason and will be drafting a stud like Garrett Wilson at 10.

Please listen to what your GM is telling you and we can stop opening silly threads like this.

Like clockwork

[Beerfish]

I'm leery of this player.  Has he had some fine years?  Yes but he has had a few down right bad years as well.

Worth exploring?  Yes, Slam dunk?  No, not at all.

The fact that he totally screwed my FF team in 2017 may or may not have anything to do with this.

[JTJet]

1 hour ago, chirorob said:

Thing is with Cooper, he is already a vet who will run the correct patterns.

A rookie WR will likely have some help next year, but won't typically be a major addition to the offense until year 2 or 3.

Not to mention, Cooper could sit on the bench all year and somehow, someway, he would be our most productive wideout. 

[David Harris]

1 hour ago, greenwichjetfan said:

Man, if we could sign Njoku and Cooper with all of the cap space we have, it'll do so much for this team and the rest of the offseason:

1. Cooper is an elite route runner. This is huge for a young QB who needs to trust that his receivers are going to be where they should be.
2. Cooper would instantly make the other WRs because he would automatically attract opposing CB1s. In cases of zone defense, Cooper can be moved around to take advantage.
3. Having legit receiving threats such as Cooper, Njoku, and Moore makes the running game better because defenses aren't going to stack the box as frequently.
4. These two signings would immediately and automatically open up the entire draft board. Screw it - go Edge on both #4 and #10 if it makes sense!
5. This is why we've been cutting and carrying cap space for years. Moments like these. To help your young QB out. Don't get cheap, JD!

Cooper, Godwin or Ridley are all ok with me (yes I know their issues)

Instant credibility.

Sign Njoku, Draft Ekwonu and the offense is damn near complete.  And you still have 3 add'l picks in the top 38 to get a pass rusher and CB, etc.

Screw Bates or a Safety for $18 mill a year - give that to a wideout and draft Brisker.  This a defense heavy draft.  This is an offense heavy FA.

[Larz]

This would make Davis and Moore so much better.   Add  a TE, FB, RG and it’s a legit offense 

[Patriot Killa]

Wasn’t Cooper awful last year?

[Hex]

2 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Joe Douglas will have 0 interest in an over priced player like Amari Cooper.  We have tons of draft picks for a reason and will be drafting a stud like Garrett Wilson at 10.

Please listen to what your GM is telling you and we can stop opening silly threads like this.

Overpriced

Plus, tell us when JD said that they weren't going to sign a WR in FA, especially a good one

[Joe W. Namath]

Amari Cooper was a disappointment in Oakland and sent packing.  Amari Cooper was a disappointment in Dallas and is now getting sent packing again.  Joe Douglas will have 0 interest in this type of player.

Garrett Wilson is a total stud and will be better then Cooper ever was.

 

 

[Green Ghost]

2 hours ago, Jet Nut said:

This is exactly why you set yourself up with financial flexibility to pick up an Amari Cooper 

Agreed.

It was a relatively simple task to tear down this roster and acquire all this cap space, but now Now comes the hard part… Douglas needs to sign guys like this.

[Joe W. Namath]

On Friday, Jones didn’t hold back, expressing frustration with Cooper.

“How he fits in and he should take half the field with him when he goes and runs the field,” Jones said on 105.3 The Fan, via Mark Lane of WFAA. “Not half, that’s an exaggeration, of course, but a whole bunch of that defense should have to honor Cooper. He ought to be able to catch it when they’re going in the middle with him. Others do. You throw to people that are covered all the time in the NFL.”

His own GM wants nothing to do with him anymore.

[Untouchable]

How anyone is against Cooper is beyond me.

No, he’s not Davante Adams or Jamar Chase or Cooper Kupp, but he’s a legit #1 WR and one of the best pure route runners in the league. He’ll also have just turned 28 by the time the season starts.

Cooper, Davis and Moore is a damn solid trio for Zach.

Upgrade at TE and continue to solidify the OL and the Jets could field a competent offense for the foreseeable future.

[Integrity28]

2 hours ago, ZachEY said:

This feels like a no-brainer move.  More flexibility in the draft if you don't think value is there for a WR at 4 or 10, and makes taking defense a little more tenable, if that's really the best value at the pick.

Yes.

Even if you do think value is there, adding Cooped is a good move.

Cooper, Davis, Elijah, Rookie, Berrios + All new TE room.

[GreenFish]

1 hour ago, HighPitch said:

Man screw this. Too expensive. He isnt doninant. Just grab wilson/burkes/london

Setting expectations is key. If anyone is expecting Cooper to come in and be an alpha WR who can consistently beat double coverage, they’re bound to be dissapointed. That goes for all these FA WRs with the exception of Devante Adams. However, I would expect him to be a low end #1 who runs crisp routes, can beat single coverage while being an inside/outside guy. 

[The Crusher]

2 hours ago, Big_Slick said:

Just tired of the Jets being used and discarded like a .....

Team that hasn’t a winning record in a decade. 

[Larz]

12 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Amari Cooper was a disappointment in Oakland and sent packing.  Amari Cooper was a disappointment in Dallas and is now getting sent packing again.  Joe Douglas will have 0 interest in this type of player.

Garrett Wilson is a total stud and will be better then Cooper ever was.

 

 

This is what the hard cap is designed to do. Force player movement. 
If he is cut, it’s like a guy with a 60s Ferrari that can’t afford it anymore. It’s still a 60s Ferrari. 
 

The ripple effect would be dramatic. Davis is now facing the #2 DB and Moore #3. 
 

the draft becomes crystal clear. Edge at 4, DB, LB or another edge at 10. 
 

with the remaining picks you take TE, RG, and somewhere along the line a real actual FB. 
 

free agency you backfill with quality depth and the corpse of joe Flacco.  
 

[JoJoTownsell1]

2 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

On Friday, Jones didn’t hold back, expressing frustration with Cooper.

“How he fits in and he should take half the field with him when he goes and runs the field,” Jones said on 105.3 The Fan, via Mark Lane of WFAA. “Not half, that’s an exaggeration, of course, but a whole bunch of that defense should have to honor Cooper. He ought to be able to catch it when they’re going in the middle with him. Others do. You throw to people that are covered all the time in the NFL.”

His own GM wants nothing to do with him anymore.

And people here are trying to throw 20 million at this guy because they recognize his name. He has never had an elite season and the Cowboys seem more interested in giving Gallup, who just tore his acl, a long term deal. 

9 guys had 1200 yard seasons this year and last year. Cooper has never had a 1200 yard season and he's played with Dak and Derek Carr who routinely throws for 4k yards a year. 

Would he make our WR group better? Absolutely. Enough to give him a deal in the 20 million range? No. 

[T0mShane]

Feels like dropping $40+ mil per year on a receiving corps of Corey Davis, Amari Cooper, and Braxton Berrios is a poor use of cap dollars.