KRL Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 A frustrating home opener as the Jets lose to MIA 20-12, basically the whole game can be wrapped up in one phrase, "missed opportunities". Let's take a look: Special Teams - A total turnaround from the DET game as the special teams couldn't flip field position and left the offense in negative territory all day - Lachlan Edwards had decent distance and hang time on his punts. Jason Myers scored half our points and had an impressive 55 yard FG. But missed PAT's will get you cut (missed opportunity) - Andre Roberts was taken out of the game as MIA punter & kicker had him fair catching all day - Caught an awful break on MIA second punt as they bounced the snap and got a 30 yard roll to pin the team at the 10 yard line (missed opportunity) Defense - Awful day for the rush defense as MIA was able to move the ball at key times and eat clock. Also they never had an answer for Tannehill's designed runs which killed them on multiple occasions. The pass defense was solid holding MIA under 170 yards but the 3rd & 19 screen to Gore was a back breaker (missed opportunity). It brought back memories of other Jet defenses not getting key stops when it counted - A new DLine scheme which had 2 DL and 2 OLB rushing the passer brought more pressure but I wonder if that left them vulnerable to the run - Good games by Brandon Copeland (2 sacks), Henry Anderson (sack), Jordan Jenkins (strip sack & fumble recovery) and Leonard Williams (multiple TFL's) - Avery Williamson got burned in coverage a couple of times and wasn't impactful in the run game. And Darron Lee had nowhere near the game he had in DET - Jamal Adams would've had an A+ game as he was all over the field with a sack, forced fumble and good coverage. But on the 3rd & 19 to Gore it seemed like Adams was responsible for covering him and he got caught up in the line Offense - The OLine got pushed around all day in both phases. Spencer Long struggled getting movement in the run game, James Carpenter and Kelvin Beachum picked up killer penalties - Chris Herndon got his first catches as a pro but he had an awful game. Not diving for the end zone at the end of the first half (missed opportunity). And dropping a 35+ yard completion down the sideline as the team was trying to come back (missed opportunity) - Poor ball security by Robby Anderson and Terrelle Pryor killed the team. Anderson fumbled when the team would've had a first down at midfield trailing only 7-0 (missed opportunity). And Pryor did an awful job finding the ball on the INT in the end zone which would've made the score 20-13 (missed opportunity). Which is too bad because other than that Pryor was very impactful (4 rec / 84 yards) - Quincy Enunwa was a beast making tough catches (7 rec / 92 yards) and running over people all day. And he almost made an incredible TD catch at the end of the first half as Sam Darnold was throwing the ball away - Bilal Powell struggled running the ball but was a terrific outlet for Sam Darnold in the passing game (5 rec / 74 yards) - Sam Darnold will get "credited" with his first loss and two INT's but there was a lot of encouraging things to take from his performance. In only his second game where his OLine struggled, had no running game and his receivers had awful ball security he was able to keep the team in the game. Darnold got banged around and was still able to be productive (25/41 334 yards) and maintain his accuracy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUM-KNEE Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Not our best effort by any stretch.... Nice read though KRL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Hard to disagree with any of this. My biggest frustration is that the defense was great until it wasn’t. I know the offense and ST put them in a ton of bad spots, but that last drive was inexcusable. On the plus side, I thought Darnold was impressive. When was the last time a Jets QB threw for 300+ yards on 8+ YPA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 I've been noticing the 2 dline formation as well think they did it a bunch last week too Skrub killed us and the defensive holding penalties after a stop on 3rd down should have ended 2 years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Better2bgreenthanblue Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 I'll miss Buster next year...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Ewww troll sandwich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Just now, dbatesman said: Hard to disagree with any of this. My biggest frustration is that the defense was great until it wasn’t. I know the offense and ST put them in a ton of bad spots, but that last drive was inexcusable. On the plus side, I thought Darnold was impressive. When was the last time a Jets QB threw for 300+ yards on 8+ YPA? Yep... I get the whole “the defense tired out” thing and the offense did screw them in the first half BUT why can’t they stop a QB option run in the fourth quarter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandy Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 The one thing that I got from the game today was that our 21 year old QB is just about the best player on this team already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Spot on assessment. Penalties at critical times were pivotal -- two 3rd down sacks wiped out and the usual Skrine nonsense were killers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusionCA Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 any corner on this team is better then Skrine . he should not see any snaps , maybe special team but he could **** up over there as well. #1 reason to fire Bowles , why Skrine is on the field? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 10 minutes ago, dbatesman said: Hard to disagree with any of this. My biggest frustration is that the defense was great until it wasn’t. I know the offense and ST put them in a ton of bad spots, but that last drive was inexcusable. On the plus side, I thought Darnold was impressive. When was the last time a Jets QB threw for 300+ yards on 8+ YPA? Darnold made some throws where he wasn't able to throw from a "normal" base and some of those throws were jaw dropping. That's a trait that will serve him well over the years. He can seemingly get the ball off from about any position, and do it accurately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinamite Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 One more bone to pick with Herndon... Right before the first half ended, he caught a ball by the sidelines. Rather than stepping out of bounds and saving a timeout (which became crucial) he thought for an extra inconsequential yard and cause the Jets to burn a time out and a few more seconds. He has talent but his head wasn't right during the game. He needs to step it up now that Sterling is likely out for Thursday's game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Above all this was a typical jets sequence under bowles. Win a game and look good. Then play sloppy, spot the other team a lead, drop passes, commit turnovers, sloppy penalties, and lose despite shutting out the opponent in the 2nd half. It’s hard to be real upset when a ‘bad’ game from a 21 yr old rookie qb is 60% completion and 336 yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 13 minutes ago, Better2bgreenthanblue said: I'll miss Buster next year...? BUSTER SUCKS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 12 minutes ago, Better2bgreenthanblue said: I'll miss Buster next year...? guy drives me absolutely nuts....as well as he plays at times in the slot...every other game he makes me scream at the TV that he should be cut that day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 7 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said: Darnold made some throws where he wasn't able to throw from a "normal" base and some of those throws were jaw dropping. That's a trait that will serve him well over the years. He can seemingly get the ball off from about any position, and do it accurately. Agreed. It really does seem like the stuff he’s good at is the stuff you can’t teach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaJetsFan Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Bowles is the worst head coach in the NFL and it’s not even close. Wish we had Marrone!Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Pretty spot on. Herndon was absolutely brutal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 17 minutes ago, Il Mostro said: Spot on assessment. Yep.Agreed. Kind of an encouraging loss. I was impressed w Darnold again. And minus albeit some major gaffes the D looked good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Just now, Matt39 said: Pretty spot on. Herndon was absolutely brutal. You hate to put a game on one guy, but there’s a solid mathematical argument that he single-handedly cost us the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsYanks13 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Your assessment speaks volumes about our loss today. I think the jets are the better team, however, we beat ourselves through sloppy football. You have to give the defense credit for playing a solid game, but in the most important drive of the game when they expected the run, they couldn’t stop it. Screen should have been benched early on to set some type of accountability message. Also, can’t blame the refs, but they made some horrendous calls and we couldn’t catch a break for nothing from them. It’s not all Bowles fault, but he must be blamed as the team was inconsistent at best. At least 2 blown assignments on defense helped towards the loss.Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 12 minutes ago, FloridaJetsFan said: Bowles is the worst head coach in the NFL and it’s not even close. Wish we had Marrone! Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app He’s in the bottom 5 no doubt.... yet we act like he is not a major part of the problems. He is not equipped to be an NFL head coach it’s very clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 All of our concerns came to fruition in this game. 1- Beachum & Carpenter need to be upgraded badly. 2- Robbie Anderson is not a 1or 2 WR & Pryor though talented is a lazy route runner. Tom Brady would hate this guy. His ex- teammates do too. 3- We are really missing Kearse, Sam needs a guy that will be where he should be. 4- The defense still makes mistakes at the worst possible moments. 5- Buster Skrine is the target of every opposing QB, that is 100% on Bowles. 6- Every team in the league has better special teams than us other than Detroit. 7- Do Jet fans still think Le'veon Bell wouldn't help Darnold? 8- We lack explosive offensive players so badly. Watching Bones Anderson & lazy Pryor, than I flip to Redzone & im watching KC, Pitt, Vikings, and you realize what this poor kid Darnold trying to win in this league with compared to these teams who have drafted stud offensive players. Hunt, Hill, Kelsey, Brown, Juju, Thielen, Diggs, Cook, it's not even fair. 9- Herndon might have single handedly been responsible for this loss as he had a bad rookie game for the ages. Not getting out of bounds, not running his route, 35 yard drop, not extending the ball on the goal line. Ouch. But, Parcells always said, your gonna lose games because of rookies making mistakes. I'm gonna go out on a limb & say we'll look back on this as the worst game of his career, I think he has talent & was overwhelmed, and was probably over thinking everything & not just playing. 10- Sam Darnold is really good & Bowles is not the right coach to get his best. Bowles is the most overrated coach I have ever seen. He just does not get the best out of his players & they have too many mistakes & poor preparation. It's like we try to play every team with the same game plan. He won't be here 15 years with Sam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelenOfTroy Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Isn't Herndon a rookie? Have to be as patient with him, as you guys are with Sam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 29 minutes ago, FloridaJetsFan said: Bowles is the worst head coach in the NFL and it’s not even close. Wish we had Marrone! Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Hue Jackson says hello Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vader Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 The Dolphins are not bad and are a tough out for us — they seem to match up well. And even though the Dolphins lead dominated the tone and tempo, both Darnold and the D were able to push back and put the team in a position to win. That said, in a sloppy game, the team that capitalizes on the turnovers, wins. That is what happened here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lego My Lageman Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 How did Dolphins fans buy out and entire section? They were near me and it was maddening.Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, Vader said: The Dolphins are not bad and are a tough out for us — they seem to match up well. And even though the Dolphins lead dominated the tone and tempo, both Darnold and the D were able to push back and put the team in a position to win. That said, in a sloppy game, the team that capitalizes on the turnovers, wins. That is what happened here. More than turnovers. Herndon- Anderson- Pryor. They play better Jets win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Pryor didnt even run a route on the second INT. The two plays where Darnold broke the pocket and threw dimes downfield to Herndon and Pryor which were both dropped were plays that you only see Elway and Rodgers make. If those two are caught Darnold has about 400 yards passing in the face of a ferocious pass run in which some are calling an "bad day" An off day in Sanchez and Geno's rookie year looked something like 12/29 for 133 yards 4 INTs and a fumble or two if they were in a good mood. Darnold has unbelievable talent hopefully as he matures the INTs get corrected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen X Jet Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Coaching Observations (MIA): SOS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Jets OLBs didn’t do a good job setting the edge. I saw Jenkins get sucked inside a couple plays and gave up big runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH1962 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 After a week long vacation from mediocrity, we saw the same Jets we have seen in 2016, 2017, and seemingly forever. Come out in the home opener with their feet in quicksand after a domnating win, probably thinking they are better than they actually are. I admit I bought into it, but was drop kicked back down to Earth today and reminded that this team is no better than a 5-6 win team. They just do not have the players. Shut out in the first half and left for dead (which they were) at 0-20, Miami stopped playing to sit on the lead. I take nothing from the second half, when the game was competitive, we were not. Cleveland has not won a game in 2 years and here we come. F**k me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnackExchange Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Young team. Rookie QB. Huge emotional win. Short week. Division opponent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 hour ago, KRL said: A frustrating home opener as the Jets lose to MIA 20-12, basically the whole game can be wrapped up in one phrase, "missed opportunities". Let's take a look: Special Teams - A total turnaround from the DET game as the special teams couldn't flip field position and left the offense in negative territory all day - Lachlan Edwards had decent distance and hang time on his punts. Jason Myers scored half our points and had an impressive 55 yard FG. But missed PAT's will get you cut (missed opportunity) - Andre Roberts was taken out of the game as MIA punter & kicker had him fair catching all day - Caught an awful break on MIA second punt as they bounced the snap and got a 30 yard roll to pin the team at the 10 yard line (missed opportunity) Defense - Awful day for the rush defense as MIA was able to move the ball at key times and eat clock. Also they never had an answer for Tannehill's designed runs which killed them on multiple occasions. The pass defense was solid holding MIA under 170 yards but the 3rd & 19 screen to Gore was a back breaker (missed opportunity). It brought back memories of other Jet defenses not getting key stops when it counted - A new DLine scheme which had 2 DL and 2 OLB rushing the passer brought more pressure but I wonder if that left them vulnerable to the run - Good games by Brandon Copeland (2 sacks), Henry Anderson (sack), Jordan Jenkins (strip sack & fumble recovery) and Leonard Williams (multiple TFL's) - Avery Williamson got burned in coverage a couple of times and wasn't impactful in the run game. And Darron Lee had nowhere near the game he had in DET - Jamal Adams would've had an A+ game as he was all over the field with a sack, forced fumble and good coverage. But on the 3rd & 19 to Gore it seemed like Adams was responsible for covering him and he got caught up in the line Offense - The OLine got pushed around all day in both phases. Spencer Long struggled getting movement in the run game, James Carpenter and Kelvin Beachum picked up killer penalties - Chris Herndon got his first catches as a pro but he had an awful game. Not diving for the end zone at the end of the first half (missed opportunity). And dropping a 35+ yard completion down the sideline as the team was trying to come back (missed opportunity) - Poor ball security by Robby Anderson and Terrelle Pryor killed the team. Anderson fumbled when the team would've had a first down at midfield trailing only 7-0 (missed opportunity). And Pryor did an awful job finding the ball on the INT in the end zone which would've made the score 20-13 (missed opportunity). Which is too bad because other than that Pryor was very impactful (4 rec / 84 yards) - Quincy Enunwa was a beast making tough catches (7 rec / 92 yards) and running over people all day. And he almost made an incredible TD catch at the end of the first half as Sam Darnold was throwing the ball away - Bilal Powell struggled running the ball but was a terrific outlet for Sam Darnold in the passing game (5 rec / 74 yards) - Sam Darnold will get "credited" with his first loss and two INT's but there was a lot of encouraging things to take from his performance. In only his second game where his OLine struggled, had no running game and his receivers had awful ball security he was able to keep the team in the game. Darnold got banged around and was still able to be productive (25/41 334 yards) and maintain his accuracy yep. the jet receivers didn't do darnold any favors (except for enunwa and powell). the rest of the guys had up and down games. i'm not sure about that anderson fumble though. it looked like he either didn't have possession or after he went down his was the first hand on the ball. at that point the ball was dean and he had it. as for the oline, they came back to earth. they better step it up a notch or two if they think they're going to keep cleveland off of darnold. at least the defense was able to put some good pressure on tannenhill and shut them out in the second half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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