RoadFan Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 8 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: Why trade a 4th round pick for a player that we can sign in free agency? Is there a rush to win 7 games this year? Your point is 100% correct. But how did you come up with 7 wins? That would be a stretch even with DeAndre Hopkins... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 48 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: What about just keeping our draft picks and signing free agents? Can we sign the free agent wrs that we drafted and cut? I hear good things about a couple of young guys called hansen and stewart that we can sign if we pay enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 33 minutes ago, choon328 said: Draft picks are overrated. The Browns have had 46 draft picks in the last 4 years and their record is 6-49-1. The amount of draft picks you have means nothing. 3rd round picks fail about 80% of the time. Would you rather take that chance or bring in a proven veteran player that can help your team immediately? Immediately is deceiving. Yeah, he'd help but only if he returned next year. Tate's in the last year of his deal. You would need assurances or its just a waste of time. At best you slide a 7th but doubt the Lions bite at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Tate is a guy you bring in on a veteran team thats close to winning it all. Hes not a guy you bring in when you are in a rebuild like the jets. These threads are getting ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 11 minutes ago, CotcheryifyouCan said: gona be someone like desean jackson ha Funny, I was thinking of him yesterday watching the Bucs/bengals conclude. Unforunately has similar skill set as Robby Anderson. Plus the baggage. I'd pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 hour ago, The Walrus said: My head says we really need to develop our own. What own? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 46 minutes ago, Matt39 said: I sense a Percy Harvin type move incoming. He may still be hiding in the endzone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 22 minutes ago, bealeb319 said: Of course injuries can happen to anyone a guy like Quincy is a game changer for us when he is playing but he suffered a season ending injury last year and an injury this year. When you have your best receivers injured all at once though it really hurts our team and darnolds development Sent from my LGUS991 using JetNation.com mobile app Of course. So what’s the concern again? I’m not concerneced at all about resigning Q. He’s 1 piece to the puzzle and this is why you want depth at these positions instead of 1 superstar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 22 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: Tate is a guy you bring in on a veteran team thats close to winning it all. Hes not a guy you bring in when you are in a rebuild like the jets. These threads are getting ridiculous. The issue is there isnt even baseline NFL talent at the position right now with the injuries. The Pryor release remains completely puzzling. Throwing Darnold to the wolves with AAAA type players at wideout is really silly. It wouldnt shock me to see the Jets make a trade here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choon328 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 hour ago, Creepy Lurker said: I agree that late round picks are ok to trade for the right type of player but I can assure you a 30 year old WR that’s worse than Q and Enunwa, surely isn’t the right way to do things. 4th round isn’t that late and we used to do really well in the 4th round (Leon washington, Brad Smith). We need to save draft picks and use FA for crappy-mediocre players like Tate. No way you trade for him. That’s my opinion and we can agree to disagree. The guys on pace for over 90 catches and 1100 yards. He's a better WR than anybody on the Jets roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, choon328 said: The guys on pace for over 90 catches and 1100 yards. He's a better WR than anybody on the Jets roster. I’d say that’s right in line with Q and Robbie if they were in a more ideal offense. Similar skill level. Our guys are younger and part of the future. Tate costs a pick. Let’s leave it at that. I would totally trade for someone younger with upside but Like I said, they aren’t available for cheap. I’m hopeful that a new GM will be calling the shots and the pick will actually be valuable. I know it’s wishful thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreenDover Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Sterling Shepard would be nice we need to pull off shocking trade. Acquire a young devolving player under contract or one we can take on.... Not a rest of the year rental Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I hate Golden Tate (lots of reasons, none rational) but he would be a huge add for this team and Darnold's development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 5 hours ago, nico002 said: Seeing as he called Bates trash on Twitter I’d say no. Wait what? WhEn did he say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I’m old enough to remember when the two big free agent WRs were Tate and Eric Decker. There was a ton of debate on this board about who to sign back then. I pounded the table for Tate. The rest is history. Sigh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nico002 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 7 hours ago, GreenFish said: Wait what? WhEn did he say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Golden Tate is already 30? Wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 No trades! Just sign Tyrell Williams & draft offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 14 hours ago, jamesr said: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000980498/article/detroit-lions-seeking-midround-pick-for-golden-tate Article suggests he could be had for a 4th ... but also that the Lions would need to be "blown away" by an offer. He's 30, and in a contract year, but given our situation with WRs at the moment, if a 4th would get it done I'd be interested. We have the cap room to extend him next year. Thoughts? Even a 4th is too high a price for me. Like you said he's 30 and a FA after the season. We are not contending this year so we should not be renting players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 13 hours ago, Untouchable said: I don’t want that silly haired dickbag anywhere near Darnold. Agreed . Heard that NE is interested. Good for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I like him, but he's a free agent at the end of the year. Even if you decide he's one of the guys you want, why trade for him now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 1 hour ago, nico002 said: He goes under the name Showtime Tate? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 3 hours ago, CrazyCarl40 said: I pounded the table for Tate. Shocking, absolutely shocking, I tell you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckkieB Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 As much as I would like to get a few legit WR's for Sam to throw to the rest of the season, it doesn't make much sense to burn a pick on a rental during a season where the playoffs were never a goal. The team has to ride it out with what they have and hope Sam continues to play smart football and make good decisions despite the lack of talent around him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 28 minutes ago, Gastineau Lives said: Shocking, absolutely shocking, I tell you. Say what you will, Tate was better than Decker then and only one of them is still in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said: Say what you will, Tate was better than Decker then and only one of them is still in the league. I agree. I just think you're hysterical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Golden Tate is not coming here. A tweet from the Bleacher Report podcast, Simms and Lefkoe, asked if the Jets should fire Bowles if the team loses to the Denver Broncos on Sunday. Tate responded “no,” instead writing that Bates should be the first to go. He ended the tweet with a trash can emoji. https://www.google.com/amp/s/jetswire.usatoday.com/2018/10/07/lions-wr-golden-tate-thinks-the-jets-should-fire-jeremy-bates/amp/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 12 minutes ago, Gastineau Lives said: I agree. I just think you're hysterical. Like hysterical funny or hysterical in the mad, shouty way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Yup about 5 years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 OK, so he's gone to Philly for a 3rd rounder. I'm still wondering who we expect Sam to throw to the rest of the year though. Many of his incompletions on Sunday weren't drops / near things, they were throwaways as no-one was open. How does that help his development? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTJetsFan Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I'd like the Jets to check with the Eagles to see if Agholor is available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayRay Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 1 minute ago, jamesr said: OK, so he's gone to Philly for a 3rd rounder. I'm still wondering who we expect Sam to throw to the rest of the year though. Many of his incompletions on Sunday weren't drops / near things, they were throwaways as no-one was open. How does that help his development? I expect he'll be throwing to Anderson and Enunwa and the rest of the receivers. They suffered ankle sprains. That's all. They'll be back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 10 minutes ago, BroadwayRay said: I expect he'll be throwing to Anderson and Enunwa and the rest of the receivers. They suffered ankle sprains. That's all. They'll be back. Agree. Without knowing firsthand what Tate's strengths/weaknesses are here in 2018 - I don't exactly watch endless film on him lol - I don't think he'd be worth anything more than a 5th round pick to give that a try since he's a FA after the season. Usually I wouldn't even go that high halfway through an obvious non-contender season, but I figure we could probably recoup a 5th or 6th as a comp pick a year later, or make him the offset FA lost instead of a higher pick like Enunwa (if we lose him as well). Plus with a pair of 3s it's plenty easy to recoup a 5th this year by trading down just a half dozen slots, or a low 5 / high 6 by trading down just 2-3 slots. It's all moot since Philly was willing to fork over a 3rd rounder. They have a bye this week, and while they're 2.5 games back from Washington they still have 2 head-to-head games with them coming up and even if they don't take the division they're still very much in the WC hunt. Guess no matter what happens they won't accept a later WR injury as the straw that breaks the camel's back on their season. At 4-4 they have a lot less room for error than Washington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 38 minutes ago, BroadwayRay said: I expect he'll be throwing to Anderson and Enunwa and the rest of the receivers. They suffered ankle sprains. That's all. They'll be back. Anderson had a hammy, which can be a nagging issue for a WR whose game is mostly based on speed. Enunwa likely will be limited till after the bye. I guess everyone will be counting on Burnett to get us the yards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 6 hours ago, Jetster said: No trades! Just sign Tyrell Williams & draft offense. I despise fraud agency... But TW is a player I would key on. I could stomach it if they only have to overpay a little... as long as it isn't exorbitant. He is a rising talent. Not coming off an injury, like so many others in FA like Allen Robinson and Cameron Meredith. TW can make big plays which is always a plus. The biggest hole in the Jets offense is a chain moving centerpiece though. The 3 and outs are brutal. Like a Le'Veon Bell. Not sure if he is the guy... But like him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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