Rumors sources...on good authority

[flgreen]

6 minutes ago, DoubleDown said:

 

 

Boyer would be my guess.

"Going to surprise people and not in a good way" sounds like an internal hire to me. Needs to be taken with the context that they haven't been able to interview any outside candidates yet. Could be wrong of course.

IMO, it will go one of two ways.

1)  The stupid way.   Woody will return, and want to do something real splashy, and hire the big name out there.

2)  The smart way.  Turn the team over to the only football guy in the building.  The GM, and let Douglas handle it.  If that happens  it will probably be someone from Douglas past.  If the Eagles part ways with Pederson, go for it.  That would be my guess

[FidelioJet]

9 minutes ago, RevisIsland610 said:

He was definitely not fully vested in this year. It's obvious. It's all about next year and beyond. 1OA, 6 picks in top 100, tons of cap space in a flat cap world, and no Gase. This year has hurt but no pain no gain. I would rather be 0-16 and in the position we are in now than 5-11 and picking 8th. 

I agree with everything you said right there.

The only point I'm really trying to make is we know very little about about JD other than he's capable of tearing things down.

Which btw.  I think he's done a very good job of - setting us up for next year.  Just don't know if he can execute the rebuild.

[SAR I]

10 minutes ago, RevisIsland610 said:

I got news for ya. The Jets are going 0-16 and both Gase and Darnold are gone. 

1-15, Gase stays, Darnold traded, #2 traded for a haul, Wentz reunites with Douglas.

SAR I

[sourceworx]

32 minutes ago, greenwichjetfan said:

Don’t like it one bit.

That being said, he wasn’t a terrible HC coach and his QBs generally produced. His playcalling was sh*t and he got into trouble when he tried to manage the roster - but if JD stays on top of personnel moves and if they can get an OC to call plays, we could do worse.

Again, I don’t like it one bit, but it’s better than Gase whom I despised even before he came here (on record).

Agree. So long as he isn't making personnel decisions, it wouldn't be the worst hire.

[Stark]

2 hours ago, mrcoops said:

I wouldn't hate Lewis at all.

Not my first choice by a long shot, but he's a good coach and would be a solid, if unexciting, choice after the Gase debacle.

 Lol

nothing like hiring a guy who’s upside is not winning playoff games. 

[BornJetsFan1983]

Lol I don't think it is going to be rex but I certainly got the feeling that Ownership is going with thier guy and Joe can't do much about it. 

If you have seen my other posts when getting this type of info, it is always accurate. That being said it's not like theybwere very specific, but it does seem to me that it's not anyone that has been speculated by most people.

I mena we have seen every prediction in the world on the forum but I think the top likely guys are not going to be it and that is disappointijg because I be happy with any of them.

Let's just hope who they go with isn't as terrible ad Gase, I mean what is the chances they could pick that bad two times in a row?

[BornJetsFan1983]

1 hour ago, SAR I said:

So Gase is staying.  

Cool.   

SAR I

Lol I don't think you really even want that. I mean I know you like him and everything but you got to be excited to see your team get someone new that might be able to have us get a winning season again

[fullblast]

2 hours ago, Ghost said:

That guy is a lifelong loser. Why would you want him? 

I don't want him. But if they're determined to make a mediocre hire he's probably the best of the bunch.

[mrcoops]

9 minutes ago, Stark said:

 Lol

nothing like hiring a guy who’s upside is not winning playoff games. 

Better than our recent history of not playing playoff games though.

[AbstraKt]

3 hours ago, Samtorobby47 said:

Dear god, we’re going after Bill O’Brien or Marvin Lewis aren’t we. 

Hue Jackson.

[Chrebetfan80]

1 hour ago, Maxman said:

Brant Boyer?  Joe Judge has changed the league.

In that pualine interview he hinted at an internal candidate being a name for interviews.  I believe that coach is Boyer.  No official word on it yet from anyone I know, just my gut feeling based on the things I've heard. 

[joewilly12]

 

[Lupz27]

3 hours ago, BornJetsFan1983 said:

My sources that accurately predicted the Adams move are now telling me that the HC move is going to surprise alot of people in a bad way.

This is not good. Because that makes me think it is another out side the box type pick.

That ownership is planning on making the move and Joe D is going to have to just take it, although they are getting input it seems they are planning on doing what they want.

Joe seems to be taking it fine and working just build the talent of the roster as number one priority. That he want to make this his team and by next season he is expecting alot of problems to be gone.

For what it is worth, I hope to God they just pick someone that knows how to be a coach

I just heard from a Jets ticket rep that if the Jets don’t get the 1st pick they are gonna give Gase and Darnold another chance next season.  It was a rep calling a friend of mine from his personal phone not to pay the remaining balance over this info so take it for what it is pure rumor.

Also this is supposedly coming from Douglas wanting to keep Gase.

[bla bla bla]

2 hours ago, FidelioJet said:

Seriously? 

Let's start with - He put together the WORST roster in the history of the NFL.  But to get Specific...

• Every FA OL move he made has been awful.  He signed other teams back-ups as our starters and he expected something more?
• Not keeping the only offensive weapon this team and losing him over a $2mm
• Signing a 37 year old RB to be the starter
• Every draft pick after Becton and Mims and even Mims is a question mark - right now through 13 games he has total of 19 catches and 0 TD's.  I won't call him bad yet because Mims looks okay when he's playing, but he's gotta find a way to stay healthy.
• Corners FA pick ups - all disaster.
• Come to think of it, not a single good FA signing
• Trade of the decade? Trading away a top 10 pass rusher on a team that has no talent...Not a great move by a long shot.  I was okay with this move because the Jets needed offense over defense.  But he has to do something with those picks.  Drafting an impact level player like Adams with any of those 3 picks is by no means a lock.

I don't necessarily disagree with you but here is the counter points:

- was there an OL player you wanted that would have been better? The top guys were all tagged. Bringing in a top 10 Center in McGovern was a good move, why he hasn't played up to that level appears to be a mystery. Fant and Van Roten can all be moved on from after the season.

- losing Robby sucked, I'm sure Sam's deep ball accuracy would have drastically improved had we kept Robby... In all seriousness, I though we should have kept Robby though. Perriman looks to be a baller when there is a QB with an arm.

- 37 year old RB, I get that Douglas has roster control but bringing in a Gase guy is clearly to help Gase in the locker room. I'd have to imagine the plan was to play Bell as the starter

- Becton and Mims look legit, I understand the health issues with Mims but the kid has been legit when targeted. Not sure why he isn't being fed the ball in 1 on 1 matchups. Davis is a freak athlete and was a forward thinking pick knowing you'd be needing a safety whether you retained Adams or not. Hall looks like a baller, Mann has been solid, not great but solid. The biggest disappointments so far have been Zuniga, Clarke and Morgan. Although we have not seen either Clarke or Morgan.

- FA corners, similar to OL, who were you looking at? Jones was really the crown jewel and I'll be honest I'm glad we didn't give him the contract he got.

- Not a single good FA move, eh there was nothing from our class that I expected much out of other than McGovern and Perriman. Everything else was a body to fill a role while we draft our team.

- the Adams trade has the potential to be one of the best in our teams history. If Adams was on his best behavior I'd still make that deal. Zero chance Adams is worth $20m per year. Would you give a LB $20m per year with his numbers? I don't see the Seahawks giving him a second deal either.

[SAR I]

30 minutes ago, BornJetsFan1983 said:

Lol I don't think you really even want that. I mean I know you like him and everything but you got to be excited to see your team get someone new that might be able to have us get a winning season again

Did the source definitively say this disappointing news involves a new head coach?

SAR I

[JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF]

3 hours ago, jgb said:

Bieniemy. It's happening. Just totally fits Woody's M.O. I'd handicap at 80% chance.

Sure this is the extent of the way the owner can “critically” think...”white guy....black guy...white guy...black guy”...”right now I have a white guy so time to hire a black guy”.

[Philc1]

Call me an optimist but I think we end up with Jim Harbaugh.

[Philc1]

52 minutes ago, JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF said:

Sure this is the extent of the way the owner can “critically” think...”white guy....black guy...white guy...black guy”...”right now I have a white guy so time to hire a black guy”.

You need to relax.

[Smashmouth]

4 hours ago, JiF said:

That’s it, I refuse to be upset no matter the choice because nobody tells me how to feel!

The Jets tell you how to feel on Sundays ...Numb

Go Ahead tell me I'm wrong

[BornJetsFan1983]

1 hour ago, SAR I said:

Did the source definitively say this disappointing news involves a new head coach?

SAR I

Well....

[pointman]

Hmm.. Rex Ryan the Return?

[Stark]

2 hours ago, mrcoops said:

Better than our recent history of not playing playoff games though.

Yeah. Sure. But the goal isn’t to just be better than bad. It’s to get a guy to lead you to a super bowl.

crazy to me that people just want a guy to be better that what we’ve had. Lol. 
 

might as well just call up Jeff Fisher and let us rot in mediocrity. You know, since it’s better than what we have. 

[Jet2020]

Here comes Rex..

[JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF]

1 hour ago, Philc1 said:

You need to relax.

Nah nothing racial...next coach will be a black guy.  Coach after him a white guy.  

[BornJetsFan1983]

****Big Update

Just has a follow up with my source today after seeing and hearing the recent press conference and apparently this all happened very quickly. Like the "come to Jesus" moment happened during and after the Patriots game and JD and ownership made the plan very quickly - but JD was very much ready with a path forward. I was basically like what the hell man, right now it seems like everything is different from what you told me. What's going on. 

He told me that literally before the game, it was just going to remain the same with some coach they would pick with JD having input but not making the call. But JD has been very politically savvy this season with Gase & ownership never going against either but merely being the diplomatic football guy giving answers and solutions to everything that has come up, pointing out potential problems that could arise and a couple ways to deal with them. This approach has benefited him greatly, not only gaining influence but also showing off his knowledge and making it easier for ownership to accept what he says at their own idea.

Apparently the Patriots game was the moment of clarity to ownership and that word came to let JD run the show and fix the team. Ownership really wants the turn the ship around but bought into was gase was telling them with the wins last season and the rose colored glasses they were wearing. But seeing Patriots running around the field laughing and joking during the game was the last straw, specifically Cam Newton of all people apparently really pisst them off. The total lack of respect by the new QB wearing patriots colors was like spit in the face. I was told that it was not only him but many others and that right at that moment Gase was pointed out to them as not only accepting it but showing no emotion or care. (my reaction to this was well he had to know he was getting fired - why the hell would he care)

I suspect it was JD who pointed it out but was not told that, JD's words carry alot of weight now and before he was not using his power at all but only carrying out and giving options because it let him gain power behind the scenes to the point now that for the first time Ownership feels comfortable trusting him with that power. 

As a fan at this point I'm like Jumping with Joy!! But my source is basically confirming that what was said in the PR by Chris is not just lip music but sincere. That ownership has already made the structure change that the HC will report to JD and that JD will select that HC. That this never happened before because no one  made them beleive that was going to work.

So anyway long story short the patriots of all things are the catalyst of this whole thing and pushed them to see the obvious. I'm sure it is not really just that and it was only the last straw type of thing along with JD pushing from behind the scenes, but I'm told JD really has the full authority now, that they aren't really admitting gase was a complete flat out failure because they picked him but are dead set on moving on past this whole last couple of years and coaches. That going forward they are going to give this new path - i.e. JD, the football guy and GM the power and control he wants, and that JD has maneuvered his way into running this team in a way where he is the in-between from ownership to everyone else.

All things will go through him, rubber stamped by ownership. Already staff and other people outside the team have congratulated chris and woody on the new path and given them high praise for doing what needed to be done. He left me with the following at the end of the conversation - The team is going to be rejuvenated and really become JD's vision going forward. That he is playing the game now as the GM on a very high level, and that all the craziness of the team is really just top down effect and now JD will be making those top down decisions with the owners blessing. Many didn't think it could have happened and that of all thing it is the Patriots game is what sealed the deal. everyone their has really high hopes and believes that ownership will stop holding the team back needlessly.

Oh I also asked if there was any word on who might be the new HC. He said hasn't heard anything but if recent events are an indicator of anything, that the pick for HC is wide open. He didn't have any info on that, but he did say if he had to bet, he thinks JD probably already knows who he wants and would accept, that all of this seems to have been JD's plan to take the team and power from the start. That JD by waiting has given him self the best chance to succeed. 

** a side not and my reaction to all of this is WTF!!! I mean I like  it is crazy to think our team is run by guys who have made such bad decisions, It shouldn't  take all these lost games and time to figure out to make a football guy your GM and let him pick the coach.

Go Jets! But DAMN!!

[nycdan]

What I took from this is that until yesterday, the plan was to keep Gase.

if that's true, then that is incredibly sad.  

[joewilly12]

Just now, nycdan said:

What I took from this is that until yesterday, the plan was to keep Gase.

if that's true, then that is incredibly sad.  

They surely held onto the bum I think it was their plan that fell apart as the season went on and we were 0-13 

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

36 minutes ago, BornJetsFan1983 said:

****Big Update

Just has a follow up with my source today after seeing and hearing the recent press conference and apparently this all happened very quickly. Like the "come to Jesus" moment happened during and after the Patriots game and JD and ownership made the plan very quickly - but JD was very much ready with a path forward. I was basically like what the hell man, right now it seems like everything is different from what you told me. What's going on. 

He told me that literally before the game, it was just going to remain the same with some coach they would pick with JD having input but not making the call. But JD has been very politically savvy this season with Gase & ownership never going against either but merely being the diplomatic football guy giving answers and solutions to everything that has come up, pointing out potential problems that could arise and a couple ways to deal with them. This approach has benefited him greatly, not only gaining influence but also showing off his knowledge and making it easier for ownership to accept what he says at their own idea.

Apparently the Patriots game was the moment of clarity to ownership and that word came to let JD run the show and fix the team. Ownership really wants the turn the ship around but bought into was gase was telling them with the wins last season and the rose colored glasses they were wearing. But seeing Patriots running around the field laughing and joking during the game was the last straw, specifically Cam Newton of all people apparently really pisst them off. The total lack of respect by the new QB wearing patriots colors was like spit in the face. I was told that it was not only him but many others and that right at that moment Gase was pointed out to them as not only accepting it but showing no emotion or care. (my reaction to this was well he had to know he was getting fired - why the hell would he care)

I suspect it was JD who pointed it out but was not told that, JD's words carry alot of weight now and before he was not using his power at all but only carrying out and giving options because it let him gain power behind the scenes to the point now that for the first time Ownership feels comfortable trusting him with that power. 

As a fan at this point I'm like Jumping with Joy!! But my source is basically confirming that what was said in the PR by Chris is not just lip music but sincere. That ownership has already made the structure change that the HC will report to JD and that JD will select that HC. That this never happened before because no one  made them beleive that was going to work.

So anyway long story short the patriots of all things are the catalyst of this whole thing and pushed them to see the obvious. I'm sure it is not really just that and it was only the last straw type of thing along with JD pushing from behind the scenes, but I'm told JD really has the full authority now, that they aren't really admitting gase was a complete flat out failure because they picked him but are dead set on moving on past this whole last couple of years and coaches. That going forward they are going to give this new path - i.e. JD, the football guy and GM the power and control he wants, and that JD has maneuvered his way into running this team in a way where he is the in-between from ownership to everyone else.

All things will go through him, rubber stamped by ownership. Already staff and other people outside the team have congratulated chris and woody on the new path and given them high praise for doing what needed to be done. He left me with the following at the end of the conversation - The team is going to be rejuvenated and really become JD's vision going forward. That he is playing the game now as the GM on a very high level, and that all the craziness of the team is really just top down effect and now JD will be making those top down decisions with the owners blessing. Many didn't think it could have happened and that of all thing it is the Patriots game is what sealed the deal. everyone their has really high hopes and believes that ownership will stop holding the team back needlessly.

Oh I also asked if there was any word on who might be the new HC. He said hasn't heard anything but if recent events are an indicator of anything, that the pick for HC is wide open. He didn't have any info on that, but he did say if he had to bet, he thinks JD probably already knows who he wants and would accept, that all of this seems to have been JD's plan to take the team and power from the start. That JD by waiting has given him self the best chance to succeed. 

** a side not and my reaction to all of this is WTF!!! I mean I like  it is crazy to think our team is run by guys who have made such bad decisions, It shouldn't  take all these lost games and time to figure out to make a football guy your GM and let him pick the coach.

Go Jets! But DAMN!!

You didn't need to write a novel to just tell us you were wrong. 

It's aright man, we all mess up.

[Losmeister]

On 12/20/2020 at 10:37 AM, TeddEY said:

Predicting Jets fans will be unhappy with the coaching hire definitely requires some deep intel.  This source must be well imbedded in the organization.

talking with his inside sauces

 

[Matt39]

42 minutes ago, BornJetsFan1983 said:

****Big Update

Just has a follow up with my source today after seeing and hearing the recent press conference and apparently this all happened very quickly. Like the "come to Jesus" moment happened during and after the Patriots game and JD and ownership made the plan very quickly - but JD was very much ready with a path forward. I was basically like what the hell man, right now it seems like everything is different from what you told me. What's going on. 

He told me that literally before the game, it was just going to remain the same with some coach they would pick with JD having input but not making the call. But JD has been very politically savvy this season with Gase & ownership never going against either but merely being the diplomatic football guy giving answers and solutions to everything that has come up, pointing out potential problems that could arise and a couple ways to deal with them. This approach has benefited him greatly, not only gaining influence but also showing off his knowledge and making it easier for ownership to accept what he says at their own idea.

Apparently the Patriots game was the moment of clarity to ownership and that word came to let JD run the show and fix the team. Ownership really wants the turn the ship around but bought into was gase was telling them with the wins last season and the rose colored glasses they were wearing. But seeing Patriots running around the field laughing and joking during the game was the last straw, specifically Cam Newton of all people apparently really pisst them off. The total lack of respect by the new QB wearing patriots colors was like spit in the face. I was told that it was not only him but many others and that right at that moment Gase was pointed out to them as not only accepting it but showing no emotion or care. (my reaction to this was well he had to know he was getting fired - why the hell would he care)

I suspect it was JD who pointed it out but was not told that, JD's words carry alot of weight now and before he was not using his power at all but only carrying out and giving options because it let him gain power behind the scenes to the point now that for the first time Ownership feels comfortable trusting him with that power. 

As a fan at this point I'm like Jumping with Joy!! But my source is basically confirming that what was said in the PR by Chris is not just lip music but sincere. That ownership has already made the structure change that the HC will report to JD and that JD will select that HC. That this never happened before because no one  made them beleive that was going to work.

So anyway long story short the patriots of all things are the catalyst of this whole thing and pushed them to see the obvious. I'm sure it is not really just that and it was only the last straw type of thing along with JD pushing from behind the scenes, but I'm told JD really has the full authority now, that they aren't really admitting gase was a complete flat out failure because they picked him but are dead set on moving on past this whole last couple of years and coaches. That going forward they are going to give this new path - i.e. JD, the football guy and GM the power and control he wants, and that JD has maneuvered his way into running this team in a way where he is the in-between from ownership to everyone else.

All things will go through him, rubber stamped by ownership. Already staff and other people outside the team have congratulated chris and woody on the new path and given them high praise for doing what needed to be done. He left me with the following at the end of the conversation - The team is going to be rejuvenated and really become JD's vision going forward. That he is playing the game now as the GM on a very high level, and that all the craziness of the team is really just top down effect and now JD will be making those top down decisions with the owners blessing. Many didn't think it could have happened and that of all thing it is the Patriots game is what sealed the deal. everyone their has really high hopes and believes that ownership will stop holding the team back needlessly.

Oh I also asked if there was any word on who might be the new HC. He said hasn't heard anything but if recent events are an indicator of anything, that the pick for HC is wide open. He didn't have any info on that, but he did say if he had to bet, he thinks JD probably already knows who he wants and would accept, that all of this seems to have been JD's plan to take the team and power from the start. That JD by waiting has given him self the best chance to succeed. 

** a side not and my reaction to all of this is WTF!!! I mean I like  it is crazy to think our team is run by guys who have made such bad decisions, It shouldn't  take all these lost games and time to figure out to make a football guy your GM and let him pick the coach.

Go Jets! But DAMN!!

Great! Now lets hear this from Douglas himself. 

[SouthernJet]

On 12/20/2020 at 1:45 PM, jgb said:

They may let JD pick, but give him such a limited budget that he won't bring home lobster and caviar.

I know for a fact the Johnsons would break the bank for Harbaugh or a cowher as they are enamored with both of them. I’m not saying that’s the right decision but those are the only two I know of that they would literally have an open checkbook because of their public relations perception it would have on the market which I don’t even know if that true either

[redlichtie]

So Cam Newton chuckling after a play yesterday was the catalyst to change everything !?

OK

[DJF71]

Until the Jet fans stop supporting this trash organization, nothing will change. 

[Jet_Engine1]

28 minutes ago, nycdan said:

What I took from this is that until yesterday, the plan was to keep Gase.

[Matt39]

7 minutes ago, redlichtie said:

So Cam Newton chuckling after a play yesterday was the catalyst to change everything !?

OK

You would have figured the 13 game losing streak would have been the come to jesus moment, not losing to a team by 14 points who they havent beaten in 5 seasons.