Jets need to develop their young QB

[Yankeesrbest]

I’m done with the Jets bringing in old QBs to try to win for a season or two see Favre and O’Donnell.  They need to develop Zach Wilson and should not have hired a rookie OC to develop a rookie QB.  They also should have had an experienced QB from the get go of the kids carrier.  This team was not good enough to get to the playoffs this year.  They got lucky a few times during the year when they played hurt teams or the Browns blundered otherwise they would have had a worse record.  Fix the OL through the draft preferably, add another running back and continue to add true talent to the roster to compete for several years to come not just 1 or 2.  

[Untouchable]

Yeah and I want Alexandra Daddario to shove her t!ts in my face.

Good luck with that one

Go get Rodgers

[jbt]

You actually need to have some basic skills to be developed, like completing a 2 yard pass

[Gibby]

Sounds good in theory. But he absolutely stinks and cannot be developed. In the 5% chance  I am wrong- I’ll eat crow- but feel pretty good about my opinion 

[Tooooon]

11 minutes ago, Yankeesrbest said:

I’m done with the Jets bringing in old QBs to try to win for a season or two see Favre and O’Donnell.  They need to develop Zach Wilson and should not have hired a rookie OC to develop a rookie QB.  They also should have had an experienced QB from the get go of the kids carrier.  This team was not good enough to get to the playoffs this year.  They got lucky a few times during the year when they played hurt teams or the Browns blundered otherwise they would have had a worse record.  Fix the OL through the draft preferably, add another running back and continue to add true talent to the roster to compete for several years to come not just 1 or 2.  

You’re “done” with 2 moves that happened 27 and 15 years ago?

[y2k8]

Tired of the 2 times the Jets went all in on a vet the past 30 years.

Not tired of burning away the last 20 years on lottery ticket after lottery ticket that never pay out.

Got it.

My son is going to be a senior in college and doesn't remember Favre being the QB.

It's been a minute.

 

[JTJet]

20 minutes ago, Yankeesrbest said:

I’m done with the Jets bringing in old QBs to try to win for a season or two see Favre and O’Donnell.  They need to develop Zach Wilson and should not have hired a rookie OC to develop a rookie QB.  They also should have had an experienced QB from the get go of the kids carrier.  This team was not good enough to get to the playoffs this year.  They got lucky a few times during the year when they played hurt teams or the Browns blundered otherwise they would have had a worse record.  Fix the OL through the draft preferably, add another running back and continue to add true talent to the roster to compete for several years to come not just 1 or 2.  

[y2k8]

 

If the New York Jets ever find their "Mahomes"- it will be when they draft a kid in the middle to late first round, when they are not counting on him to be the savior of the franchise.

[Trotter]

14 minutes ago, Untouchable said:

Yeah and I want Alexandra Daddario to shove her t!ts in my face.

Good luck with that one

Go get Rodgers

Alexandra and Carla Gugino combined fir two of the best racks in a movie

[Gastineau Lives]

24 minutes ago, Yankeesrbest said:

I’m done with the Jets bringing in old QBs to try to win for a season or two see Favre and O’Donnell.  They need to develop Zach Wilson and should not have hired a rookie OC to develop a rookie QB.  They also should have had an experienced QB from the get go of the kids carrier.  This team was not good enough to get to the playoffs this year.  They got lucky a few times during the year when they played hurt teams or the Browns blundered otherwise they would have had a worse record.  Fix the OL through the draft preferably, add another running back and continue to add true talent to the roster to compete for several years to come not just 1 or 2.  

Yeah I would quit the Jets if this was the plan. 12 years is enough.

[UntouchableCrew]

Anyone who thinks the Jets should focus on “developing Zach Wilson” should be tarred and feathered.

[freestater]

34 minutes ago, Yankeesrbest said:

see Favre and O’Donnell

Lol

[Bronx]

The "one decade project"

seems like the right strategy for the hoodie guy.

 

[hawk]

[Yankeesrbest]

36 minutes ago, Untouchable said:

Yeah and I want Alexandra Daddario to shove her t!ts in my face.

Good luck with that one

Go get Rodgers

I’ll bet you that they bring Rodgers in and he’ll be around for about 2 years.  Maybe they make the playoffs maybe not and then the cycle of missing the playoffs  begins again.  

The Bills developed Allen.  Tell me he was good his 1st two-three seasons.  No, he wasn’t but they showed patience with him and Allen has turned into a pretty good QB. The Chiefs had a veteran in place when they brought in Mahomes and he developed.  Btw, both had good O-lines waiting for them.  Oh and the Chiefs had the benefit of having Andy Reid an offensive wizard with experience and ability to develop young talent.  

[Yankeesrbest]

7 minutes ago, hawk said:

I like your inability to use words to discuss a topic.  I’m sure you’re an Einstein.

[The Crusher]

3 minutes ago, Yankeesrbest said:

I’ll bet you that they bring Rodgers in and he’ll be around for about 2 years.  Maybe they make the playoffs maybe not and then the cycle of missing the playoffs  begins again.  

The Bills developed Allen.  Tell me he was good his 1st two-three seasons.  No, he wasn’t but they showed patience with him and Allen has turned into a pretty good QB. The Chiefs had a veteran in place when they brought in Mahomes and he developed.  Btw, both had good O-lines waiting for them.  Oh and the Chiefs had the benefit of having Andy Reid an offensive wizard with experience and ability to develop young talent.  

Allen, Mahomes and Wilson. Hardly tell them apart. 

[Fantasy Island]

Develop Zach? Do you think he could work concessions?

[Darnold Schwarzenegger]

7 minutes ago, Yankeesrbest said:

I’ll bet you that they bring Rodgers in and he’ll be around for about 2 years.  Maybe they make the playoffs maybe not and then the cycle of missing the playoffs  begins again.  

The Bills developed Allen.  Tell me he was good his 1st two-three seasons.  No, he wasn’t but they showed patience with him and Allen has turned into a pretty good QB. The Chiefs had a veteran in place when they brought in Mahomes and he developed.  Btw, both had good O-lines waiting for them.  Oh and the Chiefs had the benefit of having Andy Reid an offensive wizard with experience and ability to develop young talent.  

In theory you’re right. Jets should have had a respectable vet on the roster (not Flacco) and Zach shouldn’t have started from the jump. Also Lafleur was a mistake.

Allen wasn’t great his first 2 seasons but he was no where near as bad as Zach wilson has looked. Zach wilson is not the future. Do you really believe he can be salvaged?

Bringing a vet in gives him a chance to watch from the sidelines for the next 2 seasons and maybe he starts to figure things out. I highly doubt it happens but we basically need to go the veteran route at this point.

And just because we sign a veteran doesn’t mean we can’t draft a qb in the middle rounds (2-4) and develop him behind said veteran. 

 

And as for your original post, I don’t think we need another rb. I would much prefer another wr. When Breece is back Michael Carter and bam are fine 2nd and 3rd stringers.

[Untouchable]

7 minutes ago, Yankeesrbest said:

I’ll bet you that they bring Rodgers in and he’ll be around for about 2 years.  Maybe they make the playoffs maybe not and then the cycle of missing the playoffs  begins again.  

The Bills developed Allen.  Tell me he was good his 1st two-three seasons.  No, he wasn’t but they showed patience with him and Allen has turned into a pretty good QB. The Chiefs had a veteran in place when they brought in Mahomes and he developed.  Btw, both had good O-lines waiting for them.  Oh and the Chiefs had the benefit of having Andy Reid an offensive wizard with experience and ability to develop young talent.  

1. I’ll gladly take 2 years of Aaron Rodgers 

2. Plenty of us have been waiting around since the mid-70’s for the Jets to develop a franchise QB.

And we aren’t getting any younger.

I’m done with hoping that we find some young phenom through the draft.

We’re pushing 15 years of this team not even making the playoffs. We’re in 2000’s Browns/Lions territory at this point.

Even if we don’t end up winning a championship with Rodgers, odds are still in favor of him providing the best QB play that anyone under 60 has seen in their lifetime as a fan of this godforsaken team.

At least our Sunday afternoons will be enjoyable during the fall and winter.

Sign me up. 10x over.

[GreenFish]

From the sounds of it, that’s the plan.

As you said

1) get an experience OC - Hackett

2) get a veteran QB - Rodgers TBD

3) Saleh said they will prioritize the OL TBD

They messed up the last two years, but sounds like they are course correcting. 

They haven’t giving up on Zach.

[BurntDice]

56 minutes ago, Trotter said:

Alexandra and Carla Gugino combined fir two of the best racks in a movie

Time to quick google image search the second one for research purposes 

[shawn306]

1 hour ago, Yankeesrbest said:

I’m done with the Jets bringing in old QBs to try to win for a season or two see Favre and O’Donnell.  They need to develop Zach Wilson and should not have hired a rookie OC to develop a rookie QB.  They also should have had an experienced QB from the get go of the kids carrier.  This team was not good enough to get to the playoffs this year.  They got lucky a few times during the year when they played hurt teams or the Browns blundered otherwise they would have had a worse record.  Fix the OL through the draft preferably, add another running back and continue to add true talent to the roster to compete for several years to come not just 1 or 2.  

You forgot Boomer Esiason

[GangGreened]

Serious question - how do they plan on developing ZW when they are looking at all of these vets that will be here for 2+ years? Are they going to pick up his 5th year option?

I think he’s done here and it’s nothing but lip service.

[southparkcpa]

31 minutes ago, The Crusher said:

Allen, Mahomes and Wilson. Hardly tell them apart. 

All available to us on draft day.  

[Warfish]

1 hour ago, Yankeesrbest said:

I’m done with the Jets bringing in old QBs to try to win for a season or two see Favre and O’Donnell.  They need to develop Zach Wilson and should not have hired a rookie OC to develop a rookie QB.  They also should have had an experienced QB from the get go of the kids carrier.  This team was not good enough to get to the playoffs this year.  They got lucky a few times during the year when they played hurt teams or the Browns blundered otherwise they would have had a worse record.  Fix the OL through the draft preferably, add another running back and continue to add true talent to the roster to compete for several years to come not just 1 or 2.  

Zach Wilson is an unsalvagable bust.

[ASH1962]

1 hour ago, jbt said:

You actually need to have some basic skills to be developed, like completing a 2 yard pass

This begs the question about our scouts and GM not noticing that this guy couldn't throw a golf ball into a soccer net.

[maury77]

1 hour ago, Untouchable said:

Yeah and I want Alexandra Daddario to shove her t!ts in my face.

Good luck with that one

Go get Rodgers

Only after I’m done

[Dunnie]

I agree ... But am not averse to bringing in a dominant vet as a bridge. Then Zach ascends or disappears.

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7 minutes ago, Warfish said:

Zach Wilson is an unsalvagable bust.

Most likely, but you have to pay him anyway. As much as it sucks to lose the roster spot, it is worth it to just see what happens if plan A is win with Rodgers. Anything from Zach is bonus at this point.

 

• 2 years behind Rodgers

• Exercise 5th year option if you see improvement behind the scenes this year, it's only guaranteed for injury. Rodgers has started every game the last 5 years. I'd gamble on Zach not getting injured in practice and if you really don't like what you see then you deactivate him and cut him.

• 2025 - Rodgers retires, $60m dead cap hit and you tank that season. Or Zach showed enough to justify having Rodgers retire after June 1st. Keep Zach for his 5th year while splitting the dead cap of Rodgers over 2 years. If Zach bottoms out then the team implodes, Saleh may be gone, the Jets could have a high pick to take a QB coming out in 2026. Conveniently, that happens to be when Arch Manning should declare - along with others.

 

You likely sacrifice Becton and Moore in order to go this route but Wilson, Breece, Sauce, AVT, and JJ will all have their big money hit in 2026, after their rookie deals expire. (Contracts will be signed earlier). Unless someone offers us a pick for Zach, I think this is a good route.

[Yankeesrbest]

46 minutes ago, Darnold Schwarzenegger said:

In theory you’re right. Jets should have had a respectable vet on the roster (not Flacco) and Zach shouldn’t have started from the jump. Also Lafleur was a mistake.

Allen wasn’t great his first 2 seasons but he was no where near as bad as Zach wilson has looked. Zach wilson is not the future. Do you really believe he can be salvaged?

Bringing a vet in gives him a chance to watch from the sidelines for the next 2 seasons and maybe he starts to figure things out. I highly doubt it happens but we basically need to go the veteran route at this point.

And just because we sign a veteran doesn’t mean we can’t draft a qb in the middle rounds (2-4) and develop him behind said veteran. 

 

And as for your original post, I don’t think we need another rb. I would much prefer another wr. When Breece is back Michael Carter and bam are fine 2nd and 3rd stringers.

The reason Allen wasn’t as bad was because he had a ready O-line not the crap Wilson has had in front of him.  I know a lot of Jets fans were in love with White, a guy who has five years in the league.  Yeah, I’d expect him to be more experienced and have a better understanding of the defenses but even his quicker release didn’t help to keep healthy.  He’s lucky the crappy O-line didn’t get him killed.  They couldn’t open up holes for the running backs or protect their QBs.  Things got bad after Breece went down and worse after Vera-Tucker went down.  

[JiF]

They're going to develop him, it's all part of the plan, Saleh said so.

[jeremy2020]

1 hour ago, UntouchableCrew said:

Anyone who thinks the Jets should focus on “developing Zach Wilson” should be tarred and feathered.

Are you in charge of this effort because, if so, let me tell you where Woody is at..

[Larz]

Can’t believe we overlooked this. 
 

 

[Yankeesrbest]

1 hour ago, Fantasy Island said:

Develop Zach? Do you think he could work concessions?

Yes, I do believe the kid can be developed but he needs a good O-line in front of him, and WRs who can actually catch a football.  I still wonder why the Jets signed drop specialist Corey Davis. The man drops more than he catches.  A few of the other receivers also had the drops.  Now, I’m not gonna say Zach doesn’t need to work on his precision cause he does.  He needs to do what Jalen Hurts did during last off season.