Does anyone else want Justin Fields?

[GodDamnSnack]

I feel like every thread is about Zach Wilson, Deshaun Watson or trading down. I think Fields is a terrific player and that he has a real shot at becoming a star in the league, if he's well supported. He seems to have a winner's edge to him and a lot of tools he can rely on. 

 

I know I'm not going to change anyone's mind and I don't want to spend the next several pages arguing on how good of a prospect he is. I'm just wondering if anyone else thinks choosing Fields is a solid move for the franchise at qb, like I do. 

[Beerfish]

Not sure what to think of Fields.  He looks so good at times and  not great at other times.  He is a big unknown in this draft.

[predator_05]

*raises hand

 

Fields could be just as good as Watson.

I'd rather take fields on a cheap rookie deal and build around him, splash the cash on Allen Robinson and Aaron Jones in FA, draft Kyle Pitts, etc.

maybe it's not as "sexy" as owning an established franchise QB but you're getting better value in the long term. 

[predator_05]

If the jets don't take him, I get th pe the feeling fields is gonna be the Watson of this draft class, he'll inexplicably fall down the order and some other team will get a steal. 

[Icer]

The whole board wanted him after the Sugar Bowl but saw him play hurt in the Championship game and jumped off that bandwagon fast

[slimjasi]

He’s my second favorite QB in the draft and I would draft him at 2 

 

[nycdan]

I was afraid this would bring out the Cult of Wilson in force.  Happy to see some support for Fields.  He's still my next man up after Trevor in this draft.  I'm open to being wrong, but at this point, I don't know that there's much that can change anyone's opinion without the combine to look forward to.

 

[RedBeardedSavage]

He's a lot like Darnold, actually. Both have some wow throwing moments, escapability, and toughness.

Both also struggle seeing the right throw and making the correct decision in a timely manner. 

They're both developmental talents that need to be supported early in their career with good NFL coaching and offensive talent.

If we did end up with Fields, I'd want to sit him for at least 8 games, preferably the entire first season, and make sure the team around was good enough to support his development/avoid creating bad habits. 

[David Harris]

He’s got all the tools but feel like he needs to sit a year to learn how to read defenses and then even after that he’s got 50% bust potential - but his ceiling is Russell Wilson, yeah, but that’s just the way drafting QB’s is

[nycdan]

Bucky Brooks is on the Fields train.

https://www.nfl.com/news/bucky-brooks-2021-nfl-mock-draft-1-0-jets-start-new-era-at-qb-with-justin-fields

In the video he talks about talent vs. skill.  Like most here would agree, he said Wilson is more 'skill' and Fields is more 'talent' but then at the end says that it's easier to improve skill than talent and that gives Fields the higher upside.  I think I agree.  With a pick this high, I'm okay shooting for the moon rather than settling for a 'very good' player with a lower ceiling.  To me, Fields could be Watson.  Wilson can't.  Wilson can become a very accurate pocket passer and if he maxxes out, he could be very good, but to me, Fields has more ways to be successful on days when he struggles than Wilson does.

[Paradis]

37 minutes ago, Icer said:

The whole board wanted him after the Sugar Bowl but saw him play hurt in the Championship game and jumped off that bandwagon fast

JN in a nutshell. 

[JohnnyLV]

Personally I think he will struggle. I expect him to drop in the draft. With the right situation like Lamar went to he could be successful. I think he is wrong for the Jets.

[win4ever]

I want Fields, I still like him over Wilson.  

I don't think he's a finished product, but I don't think anyone in this class is ready to come in day 1 and be a stud, including Lawrence.  He has all the physical tools to be a stud, with very good accuracy.  

There are a few things he needs to work on, but I think that's true for every QB.  One, as most QBs in college, he played in a simple read offense that determines reads based on a single defender.  If defender X does Y, you go to 1, if defender X does Z, you go to 2.  Therefore, he has a tendency to stare down receivers, when he should be scanning the field.  If you look at Murray, Mayfield, Watson, or even Herbert in college, they did the same thing.  

He needs to be more patient in the pocket, sometimes relying too much on his athleticism to make running plays.    

I think the biggest reason I want him is because I think he's perfect for the system.  I think having mobility with down field accuracy is much more useful in an outside zone rush offense because you can use his mobility to hold the LBs.   I think that's why Watson/Wilson have such success in the league as well, because they throw accurate deep passes, while holding defenses honest with their mobility.  In a different vein, that's the weakness of Lamar Jackson, he's not accurate throwing the ball down the field, thus his passing game suffers.  

I'm not going to be sad if it's Wilson, but I love the potential of Fields in this offense.  

[oatmeal]

1 hour ago, predator_05 said:

If the jets don't take him, I get th pe the feeling fields is gonna be the Watson of this draft class, he'll inexplicably fall down the order and some other team will get a steal. 

This.

i feel exactly like this, he’s going to be a stud 

[bla bla bla]

I would be pumped with Fields, I'm gonna be happy with whoever Joe takes. The Wilson/49ers system connection has everyone excited on him. The Jets are gonna have a lot of good routes they can take.

[Maxman]

2 hours ago, GodDamnSnack said:

I feel like every thread is about Zach Wilson, Deshaun Watson or trading down. I think Fields is a terrific player and that he has a real shot at becoming a star in the league, if he's well supported. He seems to have a winner's edge to him and a lot of tools he can rely on. 

 

I know I'm not going to change anyone's mind and I don't want to spend the next several pages arguing on how good of a prospect he is. I'm just wondering if anyone else thinks choosing Fields is a solid move for the franchise at qb, like I do. 

Wall Street is going short on Fields. They are sending him to the moon. Other teams will pass as they hold the line. Then the Jets will take Fields in the 3rd round.

 

[Bronx]

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[playtowinthegame]

For me it's any easy decision; it's Justin Fields with the 2nd overall pick if we don’t trade for Watson. Zach Wilson is my 3rd choice for quarterback, due to durability concerns in the NFL.  

1 a. Deshaun Watson (Trade)

1 b. Justin Fields (Draft)

2.   Zach Wilson ( Draft)

[Irish Jet]

No. He is my biggest fear in fact. Bust written all over him.

Wilson isn't too much better though. Both trash for a potential #2.

[Wonderboy]

4 hours ago, GodDamnSnack said:

I feel like every thread is about Zach Wilson, Deshaun Watson or trading down. I think Fields is a terrific player and that he has a real shot at becoming a star in the league, if he's well supported. He seems to have a winner's edge to him and a lot of tools he can rely on. 

 

I know I'm not going to change anyone's mind and I don't want to spend the next several pages arguing on how good of a prospect he is. I'm just wondering if anyone else thinks choosing Fields is a solid move for the franchise at qb, like I do. 

I’d be fine with either Fields or Wilson. As far as fitting in, Fields is probably better suited to play in NY. Both have similar skill set but Fields has the edge and has played against much better competition. Edge: Fields.

[Wonderboy]

4 hours ago, predator_05 said:

If the jets don't take him, I get th pe the feeling fields is gonna be the Watson of this draft class, he'll inexplicably fall down the order and some other team will get a steal. 

Exactly. Which is why I hope JD doesn’t sell the farm for Watson. A fair offer not some wacked out desperate one. Fields has the same makeup as Watson in so many ways. Fields is 6’3 228. 4.42  40. Watson is 6’2 215. 4.67  40.  Both have big arms and both played vs. top competition.  You have to love what Fields did against Clemson and Trevor. That was his Championship bowl game. 

[mrcoops]

I really like Justin Fields, and would love to have him as a Jet.

I do wonder if he is the best fit for the scheme, and I think he could benefit for sitting for a year behind a veteran.

But I also think he's supremely talented, with immense upside.

If the Jets love him and pick him, I'll be very happy with that.

[predator_05]

1 hour ago, Irish Jet said:

No. He is my biggest fear in fact. Bust written all over him.

Wilson isn't too much better though. Both trash for a potential #2.

 

Whats wrong with him?

[Irish Jet]

21 minutes ago, predator_05 said:

 

Whats wrong with him?

No pocket awareness, his decision making when it comes to running is abysmal, can't throw to the side line without balls sailing on him, very simplistic system and shows little to no ability to go through progressions.

Avoid. Interception machine in the NFL.

 

[Charlie Brown]

Yes I like and want Fields.  This silly discussion reminds me of Mahomes when I wanted him and folks made up stuff to downgrade him for another so called can’t miss guy at #1, who was overrated   

While I like Wilson you can’t honestly compare him in terms of production to Fields.  Wilson had one good year after stinking before and was not so good against coastal this year.

Fields has played against far superior opponents than Wilson, has statistics that match Lawrence’s, is bigger, stronger and faster QB than Wilson and outperformed the  #1 QB in the world head to head when his team was the underdog. 
 

So yes, I want to have Fields.  I will await, all those 5 years from now who say “Oh no one knew he would be this good” yet again.  

[The Crusher]

6 hours ago, GodDamnSnack said:

I feel like every thread is about Zach Wilson, Deshaun Watson or trading down. I think Fields is a terrific player and that he has a real shot at becoming a star in the league, if he's well supported. He seems to have a winner's edge to him and a lot of tools he can rely on. 

 

I know I'm not going to change anyone's mind and I don't want to spend the next several pages arguing on how good of a prospect he is. I'm just wondering if anyone else thinks choosing Fields is a solid move for the franchise at qb, like I do. 

@JiF

[The Crusher]

I honestly have no idea. I just hope we don’t start Sam next year. 

[68JET11]

6 hours ago, Beerfish said:

Not sure what to think of Fields.  He looks so good at times and  not great at other times.  He is a big unknown in this draft.

He's certainly not a given @ #2. For that matter none of the QB's not even TL is a given and are only taken this early because of QB needy teams. I believe JD will roll with Darnold for one more year, while giving him some help next year, along with picking up a VET that fits Lafleur's offense. I believe he will trade #2 pick, and use the extra picks to sure up WR, OL early with a CB or Edge sprinkled in around the top of the draft. So for fans of the all or nothing for Watson, I think you better have a drink and get used to seeing either Darnold, or a VET starting for the NYJ next year.

[Biggs]

If Morgan can start and we can get a 3 or better for Sam sure.  

[QB1]

Fields is the #2 overall worthy talent and the most criminally underrated player in this draft. The same NFL folks/scouts that still love Darnold are the ones that question Fields because of a supposed slowness in checking down... yet they are happy to ignore the generational downfield throwing ability (note not talking arm strength), the size/speed combo, and the production. 

[32EBoozer]

6 hours ago, David Harris said:

He’s got all the tools but feel like he needs to sit a year to learn how to read defenses and then even after that he’s got 50% bust potential - but his ceiling is Russell Wilson, yeah, but that’s just the way drafting QB’s is

Russell Wilson is special even in college. Quick thinking, processes what he sees and seems to be 1 step ahead. If Fields became 60% of Wilson I'd sign on.

[T0mShane]

Sounds like the guy we already have.

[Butterfield]

No.

[The Crusher]

7 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Sounds like the guy we already have.

At this point most criticism pretty much would. 

[GangGreened]

1 hour ago, Irish Jet said:

No pocket awareness, his decision making when it comes to running is abysmal, can't throw to the side line without balls sailing on him, very simplistic system and shows little to no ability to go through progressions.

Avoid. Interception machine in the NFL.

 

Don’t let this kind stuff get in the way!