JTJet Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Just now, ZachEY said: FYI, that’s long since closed. Damn, didn't realize that. Well if he ever responds, maybe hell be a good citizen and donate to a charity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 2 hours ago, neckdemon said: he was? because his pass blocking wasn't even all that good. he was only a good run blocker This is just untrue. He had a few rough starts, hardly uncommon for a rawer, rookie LT. In most starts he was above average in pass blocking. This year was a total loss with Becton, but he'll be starting for the Jets next season. I see no need to move/demote Fant to RT, though. I do think they'll go with more than a McDermott type as the OT3, and with neither Fant nor Becton costing crazy money it's something they can easily fit again. Another ~$4MM veteran RT like Moses was, since both Fant and Becton can legitimately play LT. Too early to tell what they'll do re: C/RG, but they'll be heavily leaning towards bringing back McGovern at C. They may draft his replacement as early as day 2, but higher than that seems unlikely. Some are really over-valuing the center position with suggestions of using a top 10 pick that'll never happen. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Prodigal Syndicate said: Canada believes in wild concepts like health care are better uses for money. oh yeah well at least we don't have to worry about getting butt ****ed by a moose 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryu79 Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 I know this is crazy... But isn't it possible that Saleh is telling the truth and Mekhi's leg just took longer to heal despite everyone's best efforts? See a lot of conflating of his injury recovery with his merits in the draft and his performance last year - the later two are debatable (though I'd argue different themselves) and the former really only he and his doc know. For example, he could have been lights out last year (subjective plenty of media thought he was great) and awesome this training camp (consensus he wasn't) and still just had a slower recovery then projected because no one knows how a body his size heels given low sample? Would be still get this stick then? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ZachEY Posted December 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 28, 2021 19 minutes ago, maury77 said: Giving a mulligan while admitting the first 2 picks are bad is like saying the food at a restaurant sucks but they have great bread service, but you are certainly entitled to your opinion. Isn’t this literally The Olive Garden’s business model? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 11 minutes ago, JTJet said: Damn, didn't realize that. Well if he ever responds, maybe hell be a good citizen and donate to a charity. He messaged me directly asking for the link. I suspect he’ll make good on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 minute ago, ZachEY said: He messaged me directly asking for the link. I suspect he’ll make good on this. Cool beans. Let him know it's not like this is a dire situation. Just ragging on him a bit in good fun. Hell toss it towards a JetNation outting and buy some beers for people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 3 hours ago, freestater said: *Canadien "Canadien Bacton" How have we not thought of this yet? Lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 2 hours ago, 68JET11 said: In hindsight you might be right... however the need for LT far outweighed the one for RT. Wirfs is not playing LT, and GASE needed someone to protect Darnold. Now in the new offensive system, seems that Becton might not be a good fit. I don't think he'll ever be a 340lb dude, so unless he can come in at 350 next year and in the shape of his life, I'm not sure of his future here either. ML just proved Fant handled the position just fine. Nope. No hindsight necessary. I'm absolutely positive you could find posts from myself and others on draft night saying why didn't we take Wirfs? Dude broke the bench press record at Iowa. An o-line factory. I said at the time, I guess I'll defer to JD's knowledge. Now I know better. I was all in on Fant. Matter of fact, we should just do what I want all the time. ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 20 minutes ago, ZachEY said: Isn’t this literally The Olive Garden’s business model? Those are some damn good breadsticks 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Just now, maury77 said: Those are some damn good breadsticks 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: Easy to spend your money on that when you have the blanket of protection of the world’s greatest military force as your next door neighbor. Not to mention a population of just 38 million people. Sleep tight, Canadiens, and enjoy your hockey and the cheap and safe living arrangement! I hear the strip joints in Canada are spectacular 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rex-n-effect Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 54 minutes ago, ryu79 said: I know this is crazy... But isn't it possible that Saleh is telling the truth and Mekhi's leg just took longer to heal despite everyone's best efforts? See a lot of conflating of his injury recovery with his merits in the draft and his performance last year - the later two are debatable (though I'd argue different themselves) and the former really only he and his doc know. For example, he could have been lights out last year (subjective plenty of media thought he was great) and awesome this training camp (consensus he wasn't) and still just had a slower recovery then projected because no one knows how a body his size heels given low sample? Would be still get this stick then? I know plenty of people who have taken way longer to heal from similar injuries. Sure, they didn't have access to the kind of care an NFL starter has. Just because somebody says he should be healed in X weeks doesn't mean he's absolutely ready to get down in that position and have another 250-300lb dude crash into him all week in that. We also don't know if the team undersold the injury to make teams down the schedule spend time preparing for multiple OL rosters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 4 hours ago, Prodigal Syndicate said: Saleh says Becton is done for the year “barring a diet.” 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Sperm Edwards said: This is just untrue. He had a few rough starts, hardly uncommon for a rawer, rookie LT. In most starts he was above average in pass blocking. This year was a total loss with Becton, but he'll be starting for the Jets next season. I see no need to move/demote Fant to RT, though. I do think they'll go with more than a McDermott type as the OT3, and with neither Fant nor Becton costing crazy money it's something they can easily fit again. Another ~$4MM veteran RT like Moses was, since both Fant and Becton can legitimately play LT. Too early to tell what they'll do re: C/RG, but they'll be heavily leaning towards bringing back McGovern at C. They may draft his replacement as early as day 2, but higher than that seems unlikely. Some are really over-valuing the center position with suggestions of using a top 10 pick that'll never happen. He didn't even give up a sack until like week 10 or something like that last year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 41 minutes ago, maury77 said: I hear the strip joints in Canada are spectacular The quality of strip clubs in a country and its fear of nuclear winter are inversely correlated. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Syndicate Posted December 28, 2021 Author Share Posted December 28, 2021 7 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: He didn't even give up a sack until like week 10 or something like that last year He allowed 7 sacks last season, 5th most among tackles. He also took 7 penalties, 9th most among tackles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 This sucks I had high hopes for him. Hope he comes back healthy and not over weight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, Prodigal Syndicate said: He allowed 7 sacks last season, 5th most among tackles. He also took 7 penalties, 9th most among tackles. I remember him giving up several later in the season but thought he started out really strong. Can't seem to find the by game sacks allowed stats right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sciond Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 The Big Ticket was not a box office smash 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Willie White Shoes Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 I guess McCaffrey is fat, lazy and not motivated to play football after missing half the season with a minor hamstring injury. It can't be that some injuries take longer to heal than expected, right? Becton was a consensus top rookie last season. What happened since then to make him a bust? I just don't understand the negativity. I have seen or heard nothing to indicate that this is anything more than a longer than expected recovery. I think too many of you are still stuck on the narrative pushed by "experts" such as Dick Cimini (who never has written a good thing about the Jets and constantly drums up BS preseason controversy) and DJ Bien-Aime (who is just terrible ) that he had a horrible training camp and lost the ability to block between last December and July. How about we see how this develops over the next 6 months before trading or cutting him? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, Joe Willie White Shoes said: I guess McCaffrey is fat, lazy and not motivated to play football after missing half the season with a minor hamstring injury. It can't be that some injuries take longer to heal than expected, right? Becton was a consensus top rookie last season. What happened since then to make him a bust? I just don't understand the negativity. I have seen or heard nothing to indicate that this is anything more than a longer than expected recovery. I think too many of you are still stuck on the narrative pushed by "experts" such as Dick Cimini (who never has written a good thing about the Jets and constantly drums up BS preseason controversy) and DJ Bien-Aime (who is just terrible ) that he had a horrible training camp and lost the ability to block between last December and July. How about we see how this develops over the next 6 months before trading or cutting him? Mccafrey has been a walking injury since he started getting his johnson tugged by Olivia Culpa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, Joe Willie White Shoes said: I guess McCaffrey is fat, lazy and not motivated to play football after missing half the season with a minor hamstring injury. It can't be that some injuries take longer to heal than expected, right? Becton was a consensus top rookie last season. What happened since then to make him a bust? I just don't understand the negativity. I have seen or heard nothing to indicate that this is anything more than a longer than expected recovery. I think too many of you are still stuck on the narrative pushed by "experts" such as Dick Cimini (who never has written a good thing about the Jets and constantly drums up BS preseason controversy) and DJ Bien-Aime (who is just terrible ). How about we see how this develops over the next 6 months before trading or cutting him? He came into the season fighting off plantar faciitus (which is incredibly painful, I developed it training for a triathlon and had to shut down for a month plus and Bechton’s leg weighs as much as me) and then dislocated his kneecap, tore cartilage and had surgery. 4-8 weeks just as easily been a prognosis of 4-20 weeks. Yet some doctors here are giving out their own prognoses with zero personal knowledge and putting forth guesses months ago as facts they KNEW. And want to be congratulated for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waka Flocka Flacco Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Peace Frog said: He came into the season fighting off plantar faciitus (which is incredibly painful, I developed it training for a triathlon and had to shut down for a month plus and Bechton’s leg weighs as much as me) and then dislocated his kneecap, tore cartilage and had surgery. 4-8 weeks just as easily been a prognosis of 4-20 weeks. Yet some doctors here are giving out their own prognoses with zero personal knowledge and putting forth guesses months ago as facts they KNEW. And want to be congratulated for it. 4-8 weeks could just as easily have been a prognosis of 420 pounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 hour ago, RutgersJetFan said: oh yeah well at least we don't have to worry about getting butt ****ed by a moose Preposterous. Everyone knows Moose prefer straight up missionary. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecuadorian Jet Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Both Leveon Bell and CJ Mosley skipped a year for different reasons, and when they came back, they simply were not the same players. On Becton´s case, we didn´t fully get to see his potential. I am sure we all could at least agree that Becton when he returns will not play well. The Jets deserve to get someone else for the LT spot, and Becton should fight it out for the RT spot, if, big "if", healthy. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 I remember the 2020 Draft vividly. Wirfs set the Iowa weight room records and was a great prospect. His arms were kind of short. People thought he would have to play G, maybe RT. The Jets needed a LT. Becton had a LT profile, obviously great attributes but some negatives. JD rolled the dice on the upside on Becton. Becton worked his tail off preparing for the draft. He was in great shape. He had some great positives his rookie year. Had some odd moments pulling himself out of games, and he got hurt a lot, but it was an overall rookie positive. The Jets changed coaches and conditioning staff, and there was obviously disruption. It would appear to me that Becton showed up to off season periods, mini-camp, training camp in terrible physical condition. He got beat like a drum by Lawson, Preston Smith and others. He got hurt in a “fluke” injury (that no one else on the OL has suffered this year) and did not meet his recovery expectations. In Becton’s absence, Fant has done a very good at LT. I do not think the Jets’ CS has discussed with Becton a move to RT. But they can read, and he think Becton has a smart team. They see the writing on the walls, and the lower paycheck in 2014-2015. Becton still has potential to contribute to the Jets. I don’t think he can be trusted to be T2 without a real T3 (like the Jets entered the season at G). So to me we try to give Becton a chance but need a Plan B. If the BPA at 4 is Neal, I think the Jets have to serious consider taking him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68JET11 Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 hour ago, freestater said: Nope. No hindsight necessary. I'm absolutely positive you could find posts from myself and others on draft night saying why didn't we take Wirfs? Dude broke the bench press record at Iowa. An o-line factory. I said at the time, I guess I'll defer to JD's knowledge. Now I know better. I was all in on Fant. Matter of fact, we should just do what I want all the time. ? Wasn't doubting you liked Wirfs... I think lots of us did. You just also pointed out why we need to draft Linderbaum ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 15 minutes ago, 68JET11 said: Wasn't doubting you liked Wirfs... I think lots of us did. You just also pointed out why we need to draft Linderbaum ? A likely future top NFL C was drafted last year in the bottom of the second round. I think Linderbaum has a good PR agent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 I'm shocked, I tells ya, shocked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 6 hours ago, 92ShaunEllis92 said: Guys that don’t fit their “scheme” they (coaching staff) are unwilling to coach up and develop and just stick them in the doghouse: aka Mims And what does this mean? You think the issue is the CS didn’t want Becton playing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92ShaunEllis92 Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Matt39 said: Mccafrey has been a walking injury since he started getting his johnson tugged by Olivia Culpa. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 2 hours ago, maury77 said: I hear the strip joints in Canada are spectacular It was -41.6 C (-42,8 F) here as a low temp this am. I took an old pair of jeans wet them down and set them down for about 10 minutes on my back porch this am, this was the result. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 hour ago, BroadwayJoe12 said: Preposterous. Everyone knows Moose prefer straight up missionary. So they can look you in the eye? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darnold Schwarzenegger Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 2 hours ago, varjet said: In Becton’s absence, Fant has done a very good at LT. I do not think the Jets’ CS has discussed with Becton a move to RT. But they can read, and he think Becton has a smart team. They see the writing on the walls, and the lower paycheck in 2014-2015. 1st of all, what? 2nd of all what year are we currently in? forgive me I am quite stoned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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