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5 minutes ago, slats said:

In dealing with the Packers, it’s time for the Jets to act like New Yorkers

Posted by Mike Florio on March 22, 2023, 10:24 AM EDT

It’s been a week since quarterback Aaron Rodgers made a public plea for the Packers to be reasonable in their expectations from the Jets. In the past seven days, neither team has budged.

The Packers, as Rodgers said, are digging in their heels. The Packers, as we have reported, are content to wait until the draftto do a deal. The Packers, as I personally believe, have allowed the situation to become petty, and personal.

It’s not personal. It’s strictly business. And it’s time for the Jets to take a page from the Marty Lyons playbook and give the Packers the business.

These are the New York Jets. Technically, the New Jersey Jets. They should start demonstrating some of the attitude that those in their fan base would exhibit when dealing with difficult people in challenging situations.

The Jets need to go on the offensive. They perhaps need to be a little offensive. They need to tell the Packers how it’s going to be.

Why do you think Packers CEO Mark Murphy has suddenly opted to zip it? They know they’re running a grift by acting like they have the upper hand.

They don’t. They owe Rodgers nearly $60 million, fully guaranteed, for 2023. If they don’t trade him by Week One, his $58.3 million roster bonus becomes 2023 base salary — sending his cap number through the roof.

Amazingly, there are smart (supposedly) people who think the Packers actually have the leverage here. Much of the media has fallen in line with that mindset.

But the Jets don’t need Rodgers right now. They don’t need him for the early stages of the offseason program. They arguably don’t need him for OTAs, not when he: (1) knows the playbook like the back of his giant hand; and (2) probably doesn’t want to show up before training camp, anyway.

It’s always critical, in a deadline-driven business, to get two negotiating parties to agree on the deadline. The Packers think the deadline is draft. The Jets should take the initiative and say, “No, it’s the start of training camp.”

The Jets should make a non-negotiable offer that will remain open until the 2023 draft. They should tell the Packers that, after the 2023 draft, the non-negotiable offer will pivot to the 2024 draft — and possibly 2025, in the event Rodgers plays in 2024. They should tell the Packers the non-negotiable offer stays on the table until training camp opens.

At the same time, Rodgers should tell the Packers that, if he’s not traded before the start of training camp, he’ll be showing up, just like Brett Favre did 15 years ago. Rodgers should tell the Packers that he’ll be there, and that he’ll stay there, until he’s traded.

Rodgers also should tell the Packers that he fully expects to participate in practice (by rule, the team can’t put him on ice), creating the risk that he’ll suffer a season-ending injury that will put the Packers firmly on the hook for his full compensation package.

It will take coordination and commitment from the Jets and Rodgers to pull this off. But the Packers have been punking the Jets in part because the Packers believe they can. The Jets need to punch back, aggressively, to make the Packers realize that they don’t hold the cards on this.

Taking an aggressive stand with the Packers would have a collateral benefit. Rodgers clearly wants someone to take up his cause that the Packers are being prickly (or prick-y) about the situation. If the Jets tell the Packers to shove your feckin’ cheese up your ass, Rodgers will become even more determined to do everything he can to repay the Jets with a great performance in 2023.

Hell, maybe he’ll even gather his future teammates in California or wherever to get acquainted with them, on and off the field, as he moves closer to inevitably becoming a member of the team.

That’s the reality here. He will inevitably be a Jet. At the very absolute latest, it will happen just before Week One. The practical deadline is (or should be) the opening of camp. The sooner the Packers realize that, no, they don’t have the better of the leverage here, the sooner the deal will be done and everyone can move on.

And the best way to make that happen will be for the Jets to start acting like they’re from the place where the state bird is the middle finger

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2 hours ago, Dcat said:

I beg to disagree.  From all accounts, it's Packers trying to up the terms of the deal. Coincidentally,  ever since Rodgers embarrassed the Packers of that Mcafee show. 

Jets want Rodgers, but can and will pivot to a lesser choice if need be.
Packers need Rodgers gone, not just for Jordan Love's benefit, but otherwise they have two years of irreparable cap damage. 

It'll all get done  before the draft.  There is no way Green Bay turns down that upcoming 2nd 3rd round pick.  

Fixed it for you.

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8 minutes ago, JTJet said:

There is absolutely zero evidence to support this. 

This is an opportunity to renegiotate and get more money and he's not likely to let his last bite at the apple go easily.   

There is no evidence that Rodgers has ever taken less than full market price when he has leverage for his benifit at the expense of the team.  There is zero evidence Rodgers has ever put winning over money.

This take that Green Bay is the bad guy is insane.  They practically sucked him off nationally when he was dicking them around about leaving when he got the current deal he has that was made in good faith.  Rodgers has leverage over Green Bay because he has threatened them multiple times as a negiotating ploy and has won.

The fact that he is screwing them on a deal that everyone knew had to be regnegiotated if he didn't retire says alot about Rodgers.  He's a bitch.  

To think he's not using his last bite to get max value for himself is crazy.   

Granted I'm happy he's coming here for a year and we might actually win a game against NE if he does.

 

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It's one thing for Jets fans to want to take a swing with Rodgers who's extremely talented instead of whatever journeyman QB Douglas brings in.  It's another thing to act like he's a great guy because he's giving us leverage.  

He's a mercenary who's being brought in for a 1 year run to save the ass of Douglas and Saleh because the screwed the pouch on the QB.  

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32 minutes ago, slats said:

In dealing with the Packers, it’s time for the Jets to act like New Yorkers

Posted by Mike Florio on March 22, 2023, 10:24 AM EDT

It’s been a week since quarterback Aaron Rodgers made a public plea for the Packers to be reasonable in their expectations from the Jets. In the past seven days, neither team has budged.

The Packers, as Rodgers said, are digging in their heels. The Packers, as we have reported, are content to wait until the draftto do a deal. The Packers, as I personally believe, have allowed the situation to become petty, and personal.

It’s not personal. It’s strictly business. And it’s time for the Jets to take a page from the Marty Lyons playbook and give the Packers the business.

These are the New York Jets. Technically, the New Jersey Jets. They should start demonstrating some of the attitude that those in their fan base would exhibit when dealing with difficult people in challenging situations.

The Jets need to go on the offensive. They perhaps need to be a little offensive. They need to tell the Packers how it’s going to be.

Why do you think Packers CEO Mark Murphy has suddenly opted to zip it? They know they’re running a grift by acting like they have the upper hand.

They don’t. They owe Rodgers nearly $60 million, fully guaranteed, for 2023. If they don’t trade him by Week One, his $58.3 million roster bonus becomes 2023 base salary — sending his cap number through the roof.

Amazingly, there are smart (supposedly) people who think the Packers actually have the leverage here. Much of the media has fallen in line with that mindset.

But the Jets don’t need Rodgers right now. They don’t need him for the early stages of the offseason program. They arguably don’t need him for OTAs, not when he: (1) knows the playbook like the back of his giant hand; and (2) probably doesn’t want to show up before training camp, anyway.

It’s always critical, in a deadline-driven business, to get two negotiating parties to agree on the deadline. The Packers think the deadline is draft. The Jets should take the initiative and say, “No, it’s the start of training camp.”

The Jets should make a non-negotiable offer that will remain open until the 2023 draft. They should tell the Packers that, after the 2023 draft, the non-negotiable offer will pivot to the 2024 draft — and possibly 2025, in the event Rodgers plays in 2024. They should tell the Packers the non-negotiable offer stays on the table until training camp opens.

At the same time, Rodgers should tell the Packers that, if he’s not traded before the start of training camp, he’ll be showing up, just like Brett Favre did 15 years ago. Rodgers should tell the Packers that he’ll be there, and that he’ll stay there, until he’s traded.

Rodgers also should tell the Packers that he fully expects to participate in practice (by rule, the team can’t put him on ice), creating the risk that he’ll suffer a season-ending injury that will put the Packers firmly on the hook for his full compensation package.

It will take coordination and commitment from the Jets and Rodgers to pull this off. But the Packers have been punking the Jets in part because the Packers believe they can. The Jets need to punch back, aggressively, to make the Packers realize that they don’t hold the cards on this.

Taking an aggressive stand with the Packers would have a collateral benefit. Rodgers clearly wants someone to take up his cause that the Packers are being prickly (or prick-y) about the situation. If the Jets tell the Packers to shove your feckin’ cheese up your ass, Rodgers will become even more determined to do everything he can to repay the Jets with a great performance in 2023.

Hell, maybe he’ll even gather his future teammates in California or wherever to get acquainted with them, on and off the field, as he moves closer to inevitably becoming a member of the team.

That’s the reality here. He will inevitably be a Jet. At the very absolute latest, it will happen just before Week One. The practical deadline is (or should be) the opening of camp. The sooner the Packers realize that, no, they don’t have the better of the leverage here, the sooner the deal will be done and everyone can move on.

And the best way to make that happen will be for the Jets to start acting like they’re from the place where the state bird is the middle finger.

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31 minutes ago, slats said:

In dealing with the Packers, it’s time for the Jets to act like New Yorkers

Posted by Mike Florio on March 22, 2023, 10:24 AM EDT

It’s been a week since quarterback Aaron Rodgers made a public plea for the Packers to be reasonable in their expectations from the Jets. In the past seven days, neither team has budged.

The Packers, as Rodgers said, are digging in their heels. The Packers, as we have reported, are content to wait until the draftto do a deal. The Packers, as I personally believe, have allowed the situation to become petty, and personal.

It’s not personal. It’s strictly business. And it’s time for the Jets to take a page from the Marty Lyons playbook and give the Packers the business.

These are the New York Jets. Technically, the New Jersey Jets. They should start demonstrating some of the attitude that those in their fan base would exhibit when dealing with difficult people in challenging situations.

The Jets need to go on the offensive. They perhaps need to be a little offensive. They need to tell the Packers how it’s going to be.

Why do you think Packers CEO Mark Murphy has suddenly opted to zip it? They know they’re running a grift by acting like they have the upper hand.

They don’t. They owe Rodgers nearly $60 million, fully guaranteed, for 2023. If they don’t trade him by Week One, his $58.3 million roster bonus becomes 2023 base salary — sending his cap number through the roof.

Amazingly, there are smart (supposedly) people who think the Packers actually have the leverage here. Much of the media has fallen in line with that mindset.

But the Jets don’t need Rodgers right now. They don’t need him for the early stages of the offseason program. They arguably don’t need him for OTAs, not when he: (1) knows the playbook like the back of his giant hand; and (2) probably doesn’t want to show up before training camp, anyway.

It’s always critical, in a deadline-driven business, to get two negotiating parties to agree on the deadline. The Packers think the deadline is draft. The Jets should take the initiative and say, “No, it’s the start of training camp.”

The Jets should make a non-negotiable offer that will remain open until the 2023 draft. They should tell the Packers that, after the 2023 draft, the non-negotiable offer will pivot to the 2024 draft — and possibly 2025, in the event Rodgers plays in 2024. They should tell the Packers the non-negotiable offer stays on the table until training camp opens.

At the same time, Rodgers should tell the Packers that, if he’s not traded before the start of training camp, he’ll be showing up, just like Brett Favre did 15 years ago. Rodgers should tell the Packers that he’ll be there, and that he’ll stay there, until he’s traded.

Rodgers also should tell the Packers that he fully expects to participate in practice (by rule, the team can’t put him on ice), creating the risk that he’ll suffer a season-ending injury that will put the Packers firmly on the hook for his full compensation package.

It will take coordination and commitment from the Jets and Rodgers to pull this off. But the Packers have been punking the Jets in part because the Packers believe they can. The Jets need to punch back, aggressively, to make the Packers realize that they don’t hold the cards on this.

Taking an aggressive stand with the Packers would have a collateral benefit. Rodgers clearly wants someone to take up his cause that the Packers are being prickly (or prick-y) about the situation. If the Jets tell the Packers to shove your feckin’ cheese up your ass, Rodgers will become even more determined to do everything he can to repay the Jets with a great performance in 2023.

Hell, maybe he’ll even gather his future teammates in California or wherever to get acquainted with them, on and off the field, as he moves closer to inevitably becoming a member of the team.

That’s the reality here. He will inevitably be a Jet. At the very absolute latest, it will happen just before Week One. The practical deadline is (or should be) the opening of camp. The sooner the Packers realize that, no, they don’t have the better of the leverage here, the sooner the deal will be done and everyone can move on.

And the best way to make that happen will be for the Jets to start acting like they’re from the place where the state bird is the middle finger.

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40 minutes ago, slats said:

In dealing with the Packers, it’s time for the Jets to act like New Yorkers

Posted by Mike Florio on March 22, 2023, 10:24 AM EDT

It’s been a week since quarterback Aaron Rodgers made a public plea for the Packers to be reasonable in their expectations from the Jets. In the past seven days, neither team has budged.

The Packers, as Rodgers said, are digging in their heels. The Packers, as we have reported, are content to wait until the draftto do a deal. The Packers, as I personally believe, have allowed the situation to become petty, and personal.

It’s not personal. It’s strictly business. And it’s time for the Jets to take a page from the Marty Lyons playbook and give the Packers the business.

These are the New York Jets. Technically, the New Jersey Jets. They should start demonstrating some of the attitude that those in their fan base would exhibit when dealing with difficult people in challenging situations.

The Jets need to go on the offensive. They perhaps need to be a little offensive. They need to tell the Packers how it’s going to be.

Why do you think Packers CEO Mark Murphy has suddenly opted to zip it? They know they’re running a grift by acting like they have the upper hand.

They don’t. They owe Rodgers nearly $60 million, fully guaranteed, for 2023. If they don’t trade him by Week One, his $58.3 million roster bonus becomes 2023 base salary — sending his cap number through the roof.

Amazingly, there are smart (supposedly) people who think the Packers actually have the leverage here. Much of the media has fallen in line with that mindset.

But the Jets don’t need Rodgers right now. They don’t need him for the early stages of the offseason program. They arguably don’t need him for OTAs, not when he: (1) knows the playbook like the back of his giant hand; and (2) probably doesn’t want to show up before training camp, anyway.

It’s always critical, in a deadline-driven business, to get two negotiating parties to agree on the deadline. The Packers think the deadline is draft. The Jets should take the initiative and say, “No, it’s the start of training camp.”

The Jets should make a non-negotiable offer that will remain open until the 2023 draft. They should tell the Packers that, after the 2023 draft, the non-negotiable offer will pivot to the 2024 draft — and possibly 2025, in the event Rodgers plays in 2024. They should tell the Packers the non-negotiable offer stays on the table until training camp opens.

At the same time, Rodgers should tell the Packers that, if he’s not traded before the start of training camp, he’ll be showing up, just like Brett Favre did 15 years ago. Rodgers should tell the Packers that he’ll be there, and that he’ll stay there, until he’s traded.

Rodgers also should tell the Packers that he fully expects to participate in practice (by rule, the team can’t put him on ice), creating the risk that he’ll suffer a season-ending injury that will put the Packers firmly on the hook for his full compensation package.

It will take coordination and commitment from the Jets and Rodgers to pull this off. But the Packers have been punking the Jets in part because the Packers believe they can. The Jets need to punch back, aggressively, to make the Packers realize that they don’t hold the cards on this.

Taking an aggressive stand with the Packers would have a collateral benefit. Rodgers clearly wants someone to take up his cause that the Packers are being prickly (or prick-y) about the situation. If the Jets tell the Packers to shove your feckin’ cheese up your ass, Rodgers will become even more determined to do everything he can to repay the Jets with a great performance in 2023.

Hell, maybe he’ll even gather his future teammates in California or wherever to get acquainted with them, on and off the field, as he moves closer to inevitably becoming a member of the team.

That’s the reality here. He will inevitably be a Jet. At the very absolute latest, it will happen just before Week One. The practical deadline is (or should be) the opening of camp. The sooner the Packers realize that, no, they don’t have the better of the leverage here, the sooner the deal will be done and everyone can move on.

And the best way to make that happen will be for the Jets to start acting like they’re from the place where the state bird is the middle finger.

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The time to act like New Yorkers has passed.  If the Jets had acted like New Yorkers at the start of the process we would not be in this pickle.

Also all this talk of 'oh it's fine for the deal to get done as long as it is just before camp, Aaron knows the play book he can just show up and we are good to go!'   Is totally faulty thinking.

One of the big reasons listed for Green Bays bad start to the season last year was Rodgers not being familiar with his new receivers.

With the amount of money, time and resources invested him him he needs to be here for all off season workouts and if he skips voluntary workouts it will say a lot about his true commitment to winning.

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I think what we are seeing now is that the Packers media momentum is slowing. They had momentum at first because they have media outlets. The Jets don't. The Packers are a national team, a stalwart of the football world. The Jets are nationally mocked at every turn. Meanwhile, the Packers' local media market is practically PR for the team, while the Jets get as little love in the New York market as they get across the nation. So the Packers had their media put out how much the scales were tipped toward them, while the Jets remained silent. The big difference is that once this pro-Packer line was out there long enough, it was no longer taken at face value and it became scrutinized.

So the Jets, without any help from the media and without having said anything at all, have sat back and watched the storyline go from how much the Packers have the advantage to how much the Packers need to move him. No need for Jets spin. They have the facts on their side. Just say silent, and let the trade value come down to their terms.

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4 minutes ago, SackExchangeNYJ said:

I think what we are seeing now is that the Packers media momentum is slowing. They had momentum at first because they have media outlets. The Jets don't. The Packers are a national team, a stalwart of the football world. The Jets are nationally mocked at every turn. Meanwhile, the Packers' local media market is practically PR for the team, while the Jets get as little love in the New York market as they get across the nation. So the Packers had their media put out how much the scales were tipped toward them, while the Jets remained silent. The big difference is that once this pro-Packer line was out there long enough, it was no longer taken at face value and it became scrutinized.

So the Jets, without any help from the media and without having said anything at all, have sat back and watched the storyline go from how much the Packers have the advantage to how much the Packers need to move him. No need for Jets spin. They have the facts on their side. Just say silent, and let the trade value come down to their terms.

time kills deals

GB should know this

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I do think sometime next week is ideal for a move to be official. And this is why. I think this story is just all over the media. Final 4, MLB season start the end of next week with NHL playoffs and NBA playoffs not far behind that. And that will start taking over the media. So if they want this to still be the focus... early next week is ideal before all that other stuff happens. 

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Gio is right about this.

“Dov Kleiman” is a joke

Literally all the guy / bot does is quote actual reporters who have sources and essentially retweet them as “per” whoever.

He presents them in a nice-looking format with a photo and that’s it.

Even fooled GW into thinking Rodgers was already locked up.

 

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On 3/21/2023 at 9:58 AM, Falco21 said:

Joe D has never lost a trade. I do not expect him to do so this go around.

Joe D has never lost a trade where he's liquidating assets 

He's never won a trade where he's acquiring them

Joe Flacco, James Robinson these were bad trades by any measure 

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1 hour ago, Biggs said:

This is an opportunity to renegiotate and get more money and he's not likely to let his last bite at the apple go easily.   

There is no evidence that Rodgers has ever taken less than full market price when he has leverage for his benifit at the expense of the team.  There is zero evidence Rodgers has ever put winning over money.

This take that Green Bay is the bad guy is insane.  They practically sucked him off nationally when he was dicking them around about leaving when he got the current deal he has that was made in good faith.  Rodgers has leverage over Green Bay because he has threatened them multiple times as a negiotating ploy and has won.

The fact that he is screwing them on a deal that everyone knew had to be regnegiotated if he didn't retire says alot about Rodgers.  He's a bitch.  

To think he's not using his last bite to get max value for himself is crazy.   

Granted I'm happy he's coming here for a year and we might actually win a game against NE if he does.

 

Nobody has made more money over the years than Rodgers.   All those years Brady was taking less and winning SBs we were coming up just short and he was getting PAID

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29 minutes ago, sciond said:

time kills deals

GB should know this

Imagine Jordan love tears his knee up in offseason workouts, trey Lance style 

It is possible 

All of a sudden the Jets have zero leverage

The idea that this team is one player away is flawed and the idea that the Jets hold all the cards is just wishful thinking 

End of the day they have 2 viable options

The Jets have Zach. That's why the Jets have no leverage to close this deal on the cheap. Because jd screwed up the qb room so badly. They put all their hopes on Aaron Rodgers and the Packers know this 

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39 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

The time to act like New Yorkers has passed.  If the Jets had acted like New Yorkers at the start of the process we would not be in this pickle.

Also all this talk of 'oh it's fine for the deal to get done as long as it is just before camp, Aaron knows the play book he can just show up and we are good to go!'   Is totally faulty thinking.

One of the big reasons listed for Green Bays bad start to the season last year was Rodgers not being familiar with his new receivers.

With the amount of money, time and resources invested him him he needs to be here for all off season workouts and if he skips voluntary workouts it will say a lot about his true commitment to winning.

The “acting like a New Yorker,” bit is cheese, I posted it as a daily reminder that the Jets hold the cards in this negotiation -as Florio clearly states- no matter how much the Packers want to pretend otherwise. I don’t agree about training camp as a deadline, and have been saying all along that I expect it to get done no later than during the draft. That’s a big line for the Packers. If they want to keep playing games, they get no 2023 draft pick. Simple as that. 
 
But this isn’t a pickle, lol, I doubt that there’s anything Douglas could do to get it done sooner other than to give them more, and I’m very happy that he’s holding firm. I’d like it done by OTAs but, as you imply, there’s no guarantee he’ll show up, anyway. There’s no rush to get it done outside of fan impatience, and **** that, who cares? 
 
All these articles and posts about what Joe Douglas should be doing are useless being that no one knows where they’re at. Everyone involved knows the implications of dragging it past the draft, or the opening of training camp, or the league’s opening day. I’m highly confident that it’s been discussed between the parties, and believe that it’s extremely likely that JD has already issued some terms with one of them being to tell the Packers to shut the **** up in the media about it, which they’ve done. 
 
Bottom line -just like yesterday, or the day before- it’s a done deal, it’s just a matter of when. 

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