prime21 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Ther will be some players cut in a few months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 You're going to have them at $45 million over the cap when they sign Denarius Moore. I'm no capologist, so correct me if I'm wrong, but a $57 million dollar contract in first year value is a bit excessive, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 You're going to have them at $45 million over the cap when they sign Denarius Moore. no I'm just going on reported average salary. gilchrist was a curveball, and a pleasant one. I think cro + purdem is at least 6 million this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Social media should also hammer the person who did not show up for the trial and thus led to his case being dismissed. Yeah. We should totally victim blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 I'm no capologist, so correct me if I'm wrong, but a $57 million dollar contract in first year value is a bit excessive, no? Imagine the confidence it would give him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsRay Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 He's exactly the kind of wide out that the Jets need to go along with what they have Agreed, once we signed Marshall, we need a speedster. Moore is also a KR and PR, also a need with Harvin moving on. This move doesn't mean we can't draft a WR either, just allows us more flexibility in strategy and execution. Moore was a stud his rookie year, it is fair to ask what happened last year and year before, though the QB position and offense has been in complete disarray for several years over there. I would guess that last year was a growing year for Carr and the conservative offensive game planning to limit Carr's mistakes impacted Moore's effectiveness in any downfield opportunities and in the passing game as a whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patman Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Teams visit and work out players they have no intention of drafting all the time. They also draft players they've never spoken to all the time too. but not in the first few rounds they don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsRay Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 but not in the first few rounds they don't. Your policing of Jets fans on this forum is annoying... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Adam Gillespie @AG680 3m3 minutes ago 29 of 32 NFL teams attended #UGAProDay15 3 teams that didn't show Cardinals, Bengals & Jets Gurley out of the picture? I wouldn't read too much into that -- Gurley did not work out today. We could still schedule a private workout with him next month when his rehab is further along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSfaninNE Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Anyone know if the jets were represented at Bryce Petty's workout? apparently Rex went down there to work him out, so I guess Bills are interested. I'm going to guess Petty is a running QB. lol I'm pretty sure Jets were represented for Hundley's pro day. I'm hoping we take Hundley in the 2nd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 but not in the first few rounds they don't. Yes, they do. Teams shock each other with who they do and don't take every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Anyone know if the jets were represented at Bryce Petty's workout? apparently Rex went down there to work him out, so I guess Bills are interested. If they were interested in the QB, then why send Rex? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 No idea how they let Murray walk and then sign this guy. Last season I started to think Jones had it figured out, and then this. Wow Elite DL vs a running back that wasn't jack until last season? Not exactly a dumb move. I am not saying Murray was a one hit wonder, but there is no evidence to prove he wasn't. Elite WR and DL trump RB if the vault is not overflowing -- they played it the right way IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBallhawk Posted March 19, 2015 Author Share Posted March 19, 2015 I want to take a moment to thank the Jets organization for all they have done for me; it was an honor… https://t.co/oaXL0fKONo — kenrick Ellis (@KenrickEllis) March 19, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 looks like the jets are at about $9 million after cro and purdem. not too bad. take away $4 million for rookies and $5 million for in season moves, and the jets are basically keeping thier heads above water. basically anybody they sign now means someone is getting cut looking at post june 1 cuts, the players who are the most attractive to cut are; calvin pace, especially if the jets draft a pass rusher jeff cumberland also saves money Antonio allen is also on the hot seat darrin walls should start packing Perfect. The cap is not so tight that we can't make 1 more "big" move if we want to. If, say, Brees/Rivers magically came available we could cut all 4 of those guys. I also would add Jason Babin to that list. That would free up a little over $8M of additional cap space by cutting those 5, or about $5-6M if we cut 3 of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBallhawk Posted March 19, 2015 Author Share Posted March 19, 2015 Giants sign Jets bust Kenrick Ellis to fortify D-line #nyj: http://t.co/bUV1ge4tEU via @nypost — Brian Costello (@BrianCoz) March 19, 2015 Is there a bigger (literally) piece of sh*t in the media than Pastabello? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Is there a bigger (literally) piece of sh*t in the media than Pastabello? Ellis was a third round pick who couldn't get on the field behind a couple undrafted guys. If the Jets were weak on the DL, Ellis being a bust would be a regular topic of conversation. Fortunately, the team has had enough talent up front that no one noticed that Ellis wasn't contributing. His one year deal is downright Ducasse-like, as has been his career to date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBallhawk Posted March 19, 2015 Author Share Posted March 19, 2015 Ellis was a third round pick who couldn't get on the field behind a couple undrafted guys. If the Jets were weak on the DL, Ellis being a bust would be a regular topic of conversation. Fortunately, the team has had enough talent up front that no one noticed that Ellis wasn't contributing. His one year deal is downright Ducasse-like, as has been his career to date. I'm still waiting for you to go "got you!" but I'm getting a feeling that you're actually being serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Ellis was a third round pick who couldn't get on the field behind a couple undrafted guys. If the Jets were weak on the DL, Ellis being a bust would be a regular topic of conversation. Fortunately, the team has had enough talent up front that no one noticed that Ellis wasn't contributing. His one year deal is downright Ducasse-like, as has been his career to date. Ellis was no bust and certainly not Ducasse-like. Yes, he was often injured and inconsistent but he also had moments where he dominated. We happened to have better players but he is by no means a bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 I'm still waiting for you to go "got you!" but I'm getting a feeling that you're actually being serious. Good, young, healthy, former third round picks don't sign one-year, $1.65M contracts in free agency. Those are reserved for potential reclamation projects - which is what Ellis is. Don't kid yourself, or be jaded by your hatred for a particular reporter, Ellis was essentially a bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Good, young, healthy, former third round picks don't sign one-year, $1.65M contracts in free agency. Those are reserved for potential reclamation projects - which is what Ellis is. Don't kid yourself, or be jaded by your hatred for a particular reporter, Ellis was essentially a bust. He was a third round pick that saw consistent playing time (when not injured) He certainly didn't turn into the all-pro we hoped he could be... But 3rd round picks that see regularly playing time are in NO WAY busts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 He was a third round pick that saw consistent playing time (when not injured) He certainly didn't turn into the all-pro we hoped he could be... But 3rd round picks that see regularly playing time are in NO WAY busts. His new contract disagrees with you. If the league viewed him as a talented guy stuck behind more talented guys, he'd've signed a multi-year deal for significantly more money. He's not viewed that way. He's seen as a disappointment to this point in his career - if you don't like the word bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raideraholic Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Agreed, once we signed Marshall, we need a speedster. Moore is also a KR and PR, also a need with Harvin moving on. This move doesn't mean we can't draft a WR either, just allows us more flexibility in strategy and execution. Moore was a stud his rookie year, it is fair to ask what happened last year and year before, though the QB position and offense has been in complete disarray for several years over there. I would guess that last year was a growing year for Carr and the conservative offensive game planning to limit Carr's mistakes impacted Moore's effectiveness in any downfield opportunities and in the passing game as a whole. Denarius Moore isn't really a punt returner, or kick returner. ( you have a problem if he's in that role). HE is a very good deep threat who the Raiders used Andre Holmes 6'4 225 ( same one trick pony) instead. Denarius Moore is way better than Holmes in that role, but there were a lot of questionable decisions last year coaching staff made with the Personnel. If the Jets are looking for him to be just that deep threat( get single coverage he dangerous) but if your counting on him to be more, than your going to be disappointed . He has a world of talent, but isn't the sharpest tool in the shed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 looks like the jets are at about $9 million after cro and purdem. not too bad. take away $4 million for rookies and $5 million for in season moves, and the jets are basically keeping thier heads above water. basically anybody they sign now means someone is getting cut looking at post june 1 cuts, the players who are the most attractive to cut are; calvin pace, especially if the jets draft a pass rusher jeff cumberland also saves money Antonio allen is also on the hot seat darrin walls should start packing Not sure why Allen would be on the hot seat. I recall him being effective against TEs last season when he was playing S and not CB. But more importantly, I only see four Safeties on the roster, Pryor, Gilchrist, Allen and Miles. I can't see Allen being expendable unless we at least sign another Safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 His new contract disagrees with you. If the league viewed him as a talented guy stuck behind more talented guys, he'd've signed a multi-year deal for significantly more money. He's not viewed that way. He's seen as a disappointment to this point in his career - if you don't like the word bust. Won't disagree with that. I loved his potential - the times when he completely blew people off the LOS - was very impressive. Never really materialized... I guess the word Bust, to me, means something much harsher - especially for a 3rd round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Allen Not sure why Allen would be on the hot seat. I recall him being effective against TEs last season when he was playing S and not CB. But more importantly, I only see four Safeties on the roster, Pryor, Gilchrist, Allen and Miles. I can't see Allen being expendable unless we at least sign another Safety. Agree. I think Allen is the type-of player Bowles would like in his system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 I like to see Barnes to get some more time anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 2 weeks into FA, where's the love for Kyle Wilson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Ellis was not good, and was drafted largely because Rex sympathized with his difficult past. It's in the book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Yeah. We should totally victim blame. Yes we should 100% for sure blame the victim........for not testifying and thus letting this dirt bag off the hook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Denarius Moore isn't really a punt returner, or kick returner. ( you have a problem if he's in that role). HE is a very good deep threat who the Raiders used Andre Holmes 6'4 225 ( same one trick pony) instead. Denarius Moore is way better than Holmes in that role, but there were a lot of questionable decisions last year coaching staff made with the Personnel. If the Jets are looking for him to be just that deep threat( get single coverage he dangerous) but if your counting on him to be more, than your going to be disappointed . He has a world of talent, but isn't the sharpest tool in the shed. i hope we sign him. going from the likes of clyde gates to the likes of moore can't be a bad thing even if he can only run 1 route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Corey Hilliard - T - Free Agent Free agent OT Corey Hilliard will visit the Jets. Hilliard missed most of last season after suffering a Lisfranc injury in Week 1. An eight-year veteran, Hilliard is a competent swing tackle when healthy. His next contract will likely be a one-year deal. Related: Jets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 classy. The Jets did do a lot for him off the field. The Jets were instrumental in assisting Ellis with legal help in his efforts not to be deported. There were some serious issues he faced with his residency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Agreed, once we signed Marshall, we need a speedster. Moore is also a KR and PR, also a need with Harvin moving on. This move doesn't mean we can't draft a WR either, just allows us more flexibility in strategy and execution. Moore was a stud his rookie year, it is fair to ask what happened last year and year before, though the QB position and offense has been in complete disarray for several years over there. I would guess that last year was a growing year for Carr and the conservative offensive game planning to limit Carr's mistakes impacted Moore's effectiveness in any downfield opportunities and in the passing game as a whole. Whether it is Moore or someone else, this team is still paper thin at WR behind Decker, Kerley and Marshall. If one of those 3 goes down, we are not much better off than we were last year. We have 4 guys on the current roster who have never caught an NFL pass (Evans, Enunwa, Walt Powell and Salim Hakim) and two guys (Owusu and Graham) who have about 75 catches between them. I like the fact that Mac is looking at other experienced WRs -- Moore may not be a great receiver, but he does have 140+ catches in a four year career. If we can bring in an experienced, cheap vet like Moore or someone else and add a rookie early in the draft, we will be much better off than we are now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 classy. The Jets did do a lot for him off the field. The Jets were instrumental in assisting Ellis with legal help in his efforts not to be deported. There were some serious issues he faced with his residency. Absolutely true. Nice to see a guy who appreciates things like that. Wish him the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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