Losmeister Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 read and discuss https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/jun/10/cam-newton-nfl-unemployed-free-agent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 I did not read but my guess is finally the nfl has really started to evolve regarding how to handle talented but misguided trouble makers. Adios 2 1 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nico002 Posted June 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 10, 2020 Because he’s an injury prone diva with a terrible personality who is probably demanding a starting job and a truckload of cash. Joe Flacco is a super bowl mvp and signed to be our QB3 for 1 million bucks. I’m sure cam could get that role if he wanted. 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 If he would 100% buy into Belicheat's philosophy, no doubt that NE is the place for Cam to land. I still believe that guy can play at a high level. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SAR I Posted June 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 10, 2020 Old. Past peak. History of selfish behavior. Thinks he's worth more than he is. All rebuilding teams already have young quarterbacks. Cam is someone who thinks he's a starter and, by current NFL definition, he's not. He will get a job. Happens every year, someone's starter will go down in camp and he'll be 2020's Teddy Bridgewater. SAR I 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Ok now i read it. Nothing much about him being a trouble maker. They focused on his injuries which i dont believe is the case. the guy is an a hole. He is full of himself. Im sure he wants WAY too much money and refuses to take less. Im also sure there are lots of behind the scenes gossip going on about what an ass he is. Him, kap and that steelers wr are out of work for a reason and I applaud it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 1 minute ago, SAR I said: Old. Past peak. History of selfish behavior. Thinks he's worth more than he is. All rebuilding teams already have young quarterbacks. Pretty much this^ Cam is 58-60% passer and he just doesn’t win games. He peaked in 2015. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 7 minutes ago, SAR I said: Old. Past peak. History of selfish behavior. Thinks he's worth more than he is. All rebuilding teams already have young quarterbacks. Cam is someone who thinks he's a starter and, by current NFL definition, he's not. He will get a job. Happens every year, someone's starter will go down in camp and he'll be 2020's Teddy Bridgewater. SAR I Rare these days that I agree with SAR, but well, here you go. +1 The combination of fast-declining skills, physical abuse/injuries, and demands for #1 jobs and huge money.....it's just not going to fly. Flacco is a good example of how to stay working in the league once your prime is behind you. If Cam (or Kap for that matter) was willing to take a #2/#3 job/money, they'd both be employed today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 The fumble he didn’t feel like recovering 4 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 I've always thought his throwing motion was just so uncomfortable to look at. When he was in his prime, he could compensate for the balky motion through his unparalleled, raw athletic ability -- the same athletic ability that allowed him to just plow the **** over people. But now that that has waned, and his injuries are mounting, his throwing deficiencies have gotten exposed and he's not as able to assert himself in the run game. In his mind, though, he probably thinks he's still the same guy. So he's holding out for a real legitimate shot at being a starter (if not being signed as the presumptive starter). All that said, I think he'll get a job before the season starts. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Jet Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Pre Darnold (and that’s just based on hope) Cam 2020 would’ve been the best player we had at QB since well a really long time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
predator_05 Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 His shoulder is dead. No other explanation. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sarge4Tide Posted June 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 10, 2020 Because he's a cheating Auburn bastage! 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nycdan Posted June 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 10, 2020 They say you should dress for the job you want. Maybe he's not applying for the right position. 1 3 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 If Baker Mayfield had a few really good years and then had a number of injuries that hurt his arm strength and made him less mobile I think many teams would be leery of bringing him as a backup. Some guys just aren't made to be backup QBs. Cam even suggested early on that he would not want to be a backup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HawkeyeJet Posted June 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 10, 2020 I think part of it is Cam simply isn't a plug and play QB into every system in the NFL. Cam has a very unique skill set, and to get the most out of his skills, you can't simply plug him into the same playbook as a guy who just sits back and throws from the pocket. I'll tell ya the team that should sign him is Buffalo. Makes too much sense. Good team with a question mark at QB. If Allen falters, you can plug in Newton and run the same offense with the same dynamic Allen had. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Jet Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said: I think part of it is Cam simply isn't a plug and play QB into every system in the NFL. Can has a very unique skill set, and to get the most out of his skills, you can't simply plug him into the same playbook as a guy who just sits back and throws from the pocket. I'll tell ya the team that should sign him is Buffalo. Makes too much sense. Good team with a question mark at QB. If Allen falters, you can plug in Newton and run the same offense with the same dynamic Allen had. Re: Buffalo its actually too perfect but Cam seems to be unwilling to be QB2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Pats will scoop him up IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 41 minutes ago, Losmeister said: read and discuss https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/jun/10/cam-newton-nfl-unemployed-free-agent Won't adhere to the dress code? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Pats will not sign Cam. They looking to tank for Trevor. Unlike Macc, BB knows how to tank. Possibly the Redskins would be a good fit. Owner loves making splash moves and Haskins is highly questionable and could use some grooming time. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 28 minutes ago, Sarge4Tide said: Because he's a cheating Auburn bastage! You bas*ard, you beat me to it. lol Roll Tide 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hael Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 I always felt he was one of the most overrated players in recent memory. He was only good one year (in fact only great for about eight games that season), and even then if you watched tape the successes were largely off bad decisions (eg tds of jump balls into double coverage) He is one of the greatest running qbs in history but that’s only a small fraction of what makes a good qb and he’s lackluster in most other domains. Eg he makes terrible decisions, is innacurate, doesn’t have a great mental and is a poor leader. Now with the injuries, it’s hard to see if he’s even starting viable. I remember thinking when the media was busy kissing his ass that they had it upside down.. that the really amazing running qb at the time was Russel Wilson who’s tape was just many levels beyond, but was stuck with a terrible supporting cast. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted June 10, 2020 Author Share Posted June 10, 2020 many of the thoughts here are some i have myself... arrogance, inaccuracy, injury and yet more arrogance and a disgusting habit of pouting like a HS cheerleader 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 17 minutes ago, Wonderboy said: Pats will not sign Cam. They looking to tank for Trevor. They're more likely to sign Cam than tank, but I really don't see them doing either. I don't think Cam is an NFL starter anymore, and I wouldn't want his personality on my team as a backup. I don't know where that leaves him. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxgreen Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 My guess is he wants the right situation. And teams are still stuck on whether his foots okay and if he can survive another season upright. Mariota is willing to be a backup to get to another shot. Newton's like, "Somebody'going to go down in pre season. Then I'll get my shot." I honestly thought the Pats or Chargers would bring him in. Anthony Lynn was talking up Easton Stick... I'm like ,"Uhhhh. Easton Stick?!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmat321 Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Same reason as Kaep, he sucks and wants to be paid like a starter. Lamar Jackson will be in the same boat in 5-10 years. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrebetfan80 Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 This is a tough time to be a veteran quarterback. There just arent as many open positions due to the influx of young QB talent around the league. I do think Cam is a better QB option than some of the starters out there, provided he is fully healthy. I think he can do as good a job for SF as Jimmy G has done, i think he can certainly be better than Trubisky in CHI. Outside of that what other teams are looking for QBs? In truth obviously SF looks at Jimmy G as thier guy so really the only teams that have QB comps going on would be CHI and prob JAX. Everywhere else there is either an established starter or young qb the franchise is banking on. He has to read the room and take a backup job even though i do think he can start and be successful, he's just never going to be a top 10 guy in the league, and truthfully no one wants to pay the amount he wants to be a below top 10 talent at the position. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrebetfan80 Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 1 minute ago, jmat321 said: Same reason as Kaep, he sucks and wants to be paid like a starter. Lamar Jackson will be in the same boat in 5-10 years. This is an interesting point in regards to Jackson. I think Jackson greatly improved as a passer last year in terms of his ability to throw. His throwing motion was refined, his mechanics got better, his overall vision got better. It's a real credit to him as a player and to the staff in Balt working with him and easing him into his development. Now the question is what does he do this year, arguably the best cast he's had around him, he has to develop even more as a passer. The real test to me will be if Greg Roman gets a HC job in the next few years. He has a track record now of developing these dual threat QB's and creating an offense where they can thrive. Kaeps drop off came after Roman was gone. I dont think its a coincidence that he had his best years under Roman, then immediately after he leaves at the end of the 2014 season Kaeps numbers nose dive. So I'm also really interested to see Jackson if he continues to develop, what happens when Roman leaves.. Does he stay on track and prove he's the player many think he can be, or is his success largely due to Greg Roman? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Sarge4Tide said: Because he's a cheating Auburn bastage! 43 minutes ago, Thai Jet said: You bas*ard, you beat me to it. lol Roll Tide Funny, I had the same thought. Well, except for the Roll Tide part. Go Dawgs!!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 21 minutes ago, slats said: They're more likely to sign Cam than tank, but I really don't see them doing either. I don't think Cam is an NFL starter anymore, and I wouldn't want his personality on my team as a backup. I don't know where that leaves him. Right, sort of like Kaepernick. He might be better as a starter than many backups (obviously than David Fales), but he isn't the kind of guy everybody will want on their team as a backup. Maybe that is unconscoius bias or racially motivated to an extent, but I think Cutler fell/falls in the same demographic. When somebody needs a starter to try to save their job, they will sign him. I think the current situation and inability to work out for teams isn't helping, but that he will get something if he wants it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxgreen Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Just now, Lith said: Funny, I had the same thought. Well, except for the Roll Tide part. Go Dawgs!!! "Them dawg's is hell! Don't they? Sick'em!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 13 minutes ago, jmat321 said: Same reason as Kaep, he sucks and wants to be paid like a starter. Lamar Jackson will be in the same boat in 5-10 years. What a disappointment Lamar Jackson will be to have only had a 12 year career! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 so what does superman want? the guy was good for a few years but never really got the hang of being a qb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 1 hour ago, nico002 said: Because he’s been injury prone the last few years. Corrected for brevity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljr Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 a team who loses their starting qb during the season , that has playoff potential will sign him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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