Pauline: Jets leaning towards Zach Wilson

[GreekJet]

Mentioned on his Thursday podcast. He also said Penei Sewell is in the mix. 
 

It sounds like the debate in Florham Pack is very similar to JetNation.com

[Jdub03]

I wonder if these are planned leaks to get either Cincinnati to come up for Sewell, or QB hungry team to come for Zack.

[Augustiniak]

somehow pauline is usually plugged in.  i believe him.

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

link?

[Bruce Harper]

After much consternation I'm thinking Wilson is the way to go.  I don't want to trade three or four Firsts for a QB, as good as he is.  We need a lot of good players.

[ganggreen305]

We don't need Sewell at #2.  If we trade down and still get Sewell later on, that makes sense.  But we don't draft Sewell at #2.

[shuler82]

[Joe W. Namath]

We desperately need a qb and zach wilson is the 2nd best qb in the draft.  Its not rocket science as to what we are doing.

The Jets will sprint to the podium to take wilson.

[derp]

I look forward to the Jets trading down based on this information.

[FidelioJet]

They're drafting Zach Wilson.  Anything else is just noise.

Barring them pulling out a move for Watson - There are two things that are pretty much locked in at this point

1) Sam Darnold will be traded

2) Jets will take Zach Wilson at #2

This has been this way for a couple of months already.  Nothing has changed.

[Icer]

Pauline is usually right about the Jets, so I'd take this with a bit more credence than usual.

[Wonderboy]

11 minutes ago, ganggreen305 said:

We don't need Sewell at #2.  If we trade down and still get Sewell later on, that makes sense.  But we don't draft Sewell at #2.

Take Sewell at #2, trade Becton to Cincy for their #5 and a 3rd rounder.  You've just upgraded the LT position with the best LT prospect in ages and traded the value of a #11 pick for the value of a #5 pick.  They would bite like a shark at the beach.  They are desperate for a LT.  Take whatever QB is there at #5 or trade back and get more picks. If JD is not absolutely sold on a QB in this draft then just add playmakers.  Sooner or later we have to luck out on a QB.  Herbert, Mahomes, Watson, Rodgers, Brady, etc etc etc were not top 5 picks.  Our roster STINKS and I'm not a big fan of how JD has brought in FA's. He seems to be better at drafting. But it's still early in his GM role so hopefully he hits pay dirt this year.  

[T0mShane]

In order for any trade scenario to work, other teams have to believe that the Jets are absolutely committed to taking Wilson in the 2 spot. Otherwise, the Texans, etc, could sit back and just cut a deal with the Dolphins.

[Morrissey]

3 hours ago, Wonderboy said:

Take Sewell at #2, trade Becton to Cincy for their #5 and a 3rd rounder.  They would bite like a shark at the beach.  Take whatever QB is there at #5 or trade back and get more picks. If JD is not absoluitely sold on a QB in this draft then just add playmakers.  sooner or later we have to luck out on a QB.  Herbert, Mahomes, Watson, Rodgers, Brady, etc etc etc were not top 5 picks.  Our roster STINKS and I'm not a big fan of how JD has brought in FA's. He seems to be better at drafting. But it's still early in his GM role so hopefully he hits pay dirt this year.  

Terrible idea.

 

How about we keep Becton and take 2nd best QB (not "whatever QB is there at 5")

[FidelioJet]

30 minutes ago, Jdub03 said:

I wonder if these are planned leaks to get either Cincinnati to come up for Sewell, or QB hungry team to come for Zack.

Not talking to you but in general...

Too often we want to believe these guys are like CIA agents...and everything is a clandestine operation.

It's not.  They're doing their due diligence and trying to keep their information in house - sometimes it gets out.  Usually by lower level people that hear internal rumors.  JD isn't leaking anything on purpose to trick anyone. In fact, it's the opposite, he's trying to keep his business his business.

 

 

 

 

[varjet]

Trading 3 picks for Darnold was very bad, and the Jets were still 7-9 2 seasons ago, after blowing all sorts of money on Mosley and Trumaine as well. 

Zach Wilson has AB smarts.  He will not be terrible like some others.  Taking him with the 2 pick will not destroy the team for the $10mm/year he costs.  The Jets can always sign a Veteran to hold the fort to build the roster.  
 

What will destroy the team is giving trading away all those draft picks for Watson. Miami has a better roster and better situated to do that.  Without those picks, the Jets will never be good during Watson’s contract.  

[RedBeardedSavage]

2 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

In order for any trade scenario to work, other teams have to believe that the Jets are absolutely committed to taking Wilson in the 2 spot. Otherwise, the Texans, etc, could sit back and just cut a deal with the Dolphins.

Also why Sewell was mentioned. 

"Hey Cincinnati..."

[joewilly12]

3 minutes ago, Wonderboy said:

Take Sewell at #2, trade Becton to Cincy for their #5 and a 3rd rounder.  They would bite like a shark at the beach.  Take whatever QB is there at #5 or trade back and get more picks. If JD is not absoluitely sold on a QB in this draft then just add playmakers.  sooner or later we have to luck out on a QB.  Herbert, Mahomes, Watson, Rodgers, Brady, etc etc etc were not top 5 picks.  Our roster STINKS and I'm not a big fan of how JD has brought in FA's. He seems to be better at drafting. But it's still early in his GM role so hopefully he hits pay dirt this year.  

[varjet]

Just now, varjet said:

Trading 3 picks for Darnold was very bad, and the Jets were still 7-9 2 seasons ago, after blowing all sorts of money on Mosley and Trumaine as well. 

Zach Wilson has QB smarts.  He will not be terrible like some others.  Taking him with the 2 pick will not destroy the team for the $10mm/year he costs.  The Jets can always sign a Veteran to hold the fort to build the roster.   The issue is whether we keep Darnold because of durability Issues. 
 

What will destroy the team is giving trading away all those draft picks for Watson. Miami has a better roster and better situated to do that.  Without those picks, the Jets will never be good during Watson’s contract.  

 

[FidelioJet]

4 minutes ago, Wonderboy said:

Take Sewell at #2, trade Becton to Cincy for their #5 and a 3rd rounder.  They would bite like a shark at the beach.  Take whatever QB is there at #5 or trade back and get more picks. If JD is not absoluitely sold on a QB in this draft then just add playmakers.  sooner or later we have to luck out on a QB.  Herbert, Mahomes, Watson, Rodgers, Brady, etc etc etc were not top 5 picks.  Our roster STINKS and I'm not a big fan of how JD has brought in FA's. He seems to be better at drafting. But it's still early in his GM role so hopefully he hits pay dirt this year.  

So you want to trade our 2nd year, 1st round LT to get another LT and be left with "whatever QB is there" rather than taking our choice at #2 and keeping Becton?

In order to pick up a 3rd rounder?

Wow...I'm sorry, but that's a very bad trade.

[DoubleDown]

We'll see.  I think their #1 choice is to trade down if a team makes a fair, reasonable offer.

[FidelioJet]

6 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

In order for any trade scenario to work, other teams have to believe that the Jets are absolutely committed to taking Wilson in the 2 spot. Otherwise, the Texans, etc, could sit back and just cut a deal with the Dolphins.

There is still a possibility they trade for Watson - but outside of that Jets are taking Wilson at 2.  It really shouldn't be a mystery to you or anyone else around here.

 

[BigRy56]

I’m not surprised, but not sure how I feel about it. I will take a wait and see approach with Wilson

[playtowinthegame]

5 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

Not talking to you but in general...

Too often we want to believe these guys are like CIA agents...and everything is a clandestine operation.

 It's more logical for Joe Douglas to keep everyone guessing to see if he can bait someone into making a trade offer he can't refuse. Remember this is the guy who got not one, but two first round picks for Jamal Adams. That alone is worthy of JD being in the CIA. 

[Patriot Killa]

The rest of you should just get on board with Zach Wilson. It’s okay. Join the dark side.

[Beaver]

7 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

Not talking to you but in general...

Too often we want to believe these guys are like CIA agents...and everything is a clandestine operation.

It's not.  They're doing their due diligence and trying to keep their information in house - sometimes it gets out.  Usually by lower level people that hear internal rumors.  JD isn't leaking anything on purpose to trick anyone. In fact, it's the opposite, he's trying to keep his business his business.

 

 

 

 

Agreed.  I think too many people believe the NFL operates like Game of Thrones.   Most likely they are just trying to keep things quiet but it never stays quiet.  I remember early a few years ago there was talk of Gettleman liking Saqaon Barkley for months and everyone said it was a smoke screen and he really wanted Darnold.    

[joewilly12]

[DetroitRed]

Becton is probably the best pick since Revis

[HighPitch]

19 minutes ago, Wonderboy said:

Take Sewell at #2, trade Becton to Cincy for their #5 and a 3rd rounder.  You've just upgraded the LT position with the best LT prospect in ages and traded the value of a #11 pick for the value of a #5 pick.  They would bite like a shark at the beach.  They are desperate for a LT.  Take whatever QB is there at #5 or trade back and get more picks. If JD is not absolutely sold on a QB in this draft then just add playmakers.  Sooner or later we have to luck out on a QB.  Herbert, Mahomes, Watson, Rodgers, Brady, etc etc etc were not top 5 picks.  Our roster STINKS and I'm not a big fan of how JD has brought in FA's. He seems to be better at drafting. But it's still early in his GM role so hopefully he hits pay dirt this year.  

Actually a good idea if they bit

[genot]

8 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

There is still a possibility they trade for Watson - but outside of that Jets are taking Wilson at 2.  It really shouldn't be a mystery to you or anyone else around here.

 

It's amazing how people can look at the same info, and draw different conclusions. If Wilson was the choice. Ths Jet's would have no reason to leak anything to anybody 

[T0mShane]

10 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

There is still a possibility they trade for Watson - but outside of that Jets are taking Wilson at 2.  It really shouldn't be a mystery to you or anyone else around here.

 

I don’t think the fact that you’re saying something that hasn’t happened yet is an absolute truth should make it any less of a mystery(?)

[Tranquilo]

Take Wilson and draft an OL with one of the next few picks.

[Wonderboy]

1 minute ago, FidelioJet said:

So you want to trade our 2nd year, 1st round LT to get another LT and be left with "whatever QB is there" rather than taking our choice at #2 and keeping Becton?

In order to pick up a 3rd rounder?

Wow...I'm sorry, but that's a very bad trade.

You have to look at Sewell. He's considered the best LT to come out in years.  Cincy would jump all over him at #2 as would Miami.  The trade would really be Becton for Cincy's #5 and a 3rd. You're looking at it like we are losing our #2. Becton was taken at #11. Sewell will go top 5.  What's the point value between 11 and 5? Its 900 or which equates to a mid 1st round pick.  In other words, to move up from 11 to 5 you'd have to surrender a mid 1st round pick.  Essentially you're switching a better prospect out for the other and I'm sure they'd be able to add a pick or two to the deal.  As for the QB's in this draft, there is no sure thing. And you'd still have the #5 to take one of Fields, Wilson, Lance. They all seem to be pretty much on the same plane, young, raw, unproven.  Of course Cincy would have to first trade for Becton first before the draft.

[FidelioJet]

9 minutes ago, playtowinthegame said:

 It's more logical for Joe Douglas to keep everyone guessing to see if he can bait someone into making a trade offer he can't refuse. Remember this is the guy who got not one, but two first round picks for Jamal Adams. That alone is worthy of JD being in the CIA. 

There was nothing clandestine about that though - he let people know he would move Adams - and took the best offer he got.

[football guy]

The Jets will not take Penei Sewell at #2. If they do stick with Darnold and opt against taking a QB #2, they will trade down and seek to draft Pitts. Joe Douglas has been monitoring him since his early high school years and is extremely high on him. If they traded down and he were to get selected ahead of their pick, then its hard to say what direction they would go. They're high on Jaylen Waddle, but I'm not sure if they're high enough to select him top 10. I say this with conviction because I trust the sources that have told me this... they've never steered me wrong RE: draft in the past 6 years