flgreen Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Have no idea what is going to happen, but keep in mind that Fant is only guaranteed $4.5M. Wonder if Joe is going to try to choke a couple of million out of him? We'll see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 54 minutes ago, IndianaJet said: All this good news makes me spend money: Added Jets future bets today: To Win East +2100: $50 to win $1050 Saleh Coach of the Year +2000: $90 to win $1800 Jets over 6 wins -110: $500 to win $454 Jets to make playoffs +500: $100 to win $500 Bolded seems like one of those lines that Vegas throws out there and you think it's a smart bet and then in hindsight you kick yourself for falling for it. Literally do this every boxing and MMA PPV. Oh wow this 40 year old vet is going at +600! I HAVE to take that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choon328 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 1 hour ago, HawkeyeJet said: Boys, maybe it's my rose(and green) colored glasses, but this significant push to sign Moses tells me that the staff and JD think they have enough talent to be competitive this year Yep, And some think they'll wait till next year to upgrade the TE position. It's happening this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post UntouchableCrew Posted June 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 17, 2021 29 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: Generally I agree, but as I said above, salaries seem down. If they can lock up Moses now for say 3 at a reasonable price, they might save money in the long run carrying Fant as a swing tackle. Moses was scheduled to make less than $8M and the WFT was unable to get anything for him. Lock him up for 3/$21M or 4/$28M with a couple of years guaranteed, they might save money over rolling with Fant and being in the market next offseason. I also suspect, whether they admit it publicly or not, there's some concern about Becton's foot/overall health. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 A legit RT (Moses) and then Fant is a swing tackle, he is much more suited to be the back up LT than mcDerrmott who is scary. I'm not a fan of Fant, never have been but he translates better to LT. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post choon328 Posted June 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 17, 2021 I think GVR is your starting right Guard. Good pass blocker, below average run blocker. Put him next to a road grader like Moses and all of a sudden his run blocking improves. Kind of like Elflein when he started next to Becton. The money they're paying Fant this year means nothing. Moses is an obvious upgrade and if last year is any indication Fant will be needed a bunch to relieve Becton at LT. One positional group JD has never been cheap with is the offensive line so I doubt he cares if his swing tackle is making $9 million this year. The real question is what dominoes fall after this to address TE. I think this FO is going to move quickly to improve this team before training camp. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choon328 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 1 hour ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: Yup and it tells us that they will be in the market for other players to fill holes (TE and CB). Listening to the Saleh press conference today it sounds like they're rolling with the young guys at CB. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, choon328 said: Listening to the Saleh press conference today it sounds like they're rolling with the young guys at CB. Love it. If nobody steps up you sign a solid vet who gets cut during camp. But no need to bring anyone right now. Let the young guys get all the reps in August. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 23 minutes ago, flgreen said: Have no idea what is going to happen, but keep in mind that Fant is only guaranteed $4.5M. Wonder if Joe is going to try to choke a couple of million out of him? We'll see Maybe? I don't see it as a necessity. Fant has an important role as the swing tackle (at minimum). Next year, they'll be able to cut him, if needed, and save $9.7M (with a $1M dead cap hit). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 31 minutes ago, Claymation said: I believe Moses from Richmond, the same as Mekhi. Well they will never go fishing together in a jon boat on the James river together. Tell you that right now. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 I love this, 100% this is because of Becton's health (even before the foot). Allow Moses to start at RT and then kick Fant to LT if Becton is out. I suspect they love AVT since he played LT at USC too so we have a ton of versatility! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 If this goes through then Fant will be one well paid backup and that’s fine with the cap space we have + importance in keeping our rookie QB upright. Moses will hopefully be a 3 year deal and kept for a few seasons, making Fant expendable after this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 30 minutes ago, choon328 said: Yep, And some think they'll wait till next year to upgrade the TE position. It's happening this year. Eh. I think they will pick up some TEs, but I don't think it's going to be some big deal like Ertz or Njoku. I predict they will be happy enough with Kroft and will make some bottom of roster moves for athletes they like and hope to come up with a Waller type find. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Even if Moses is a mild upgrade (not saying that he is or isn't), this is a good sign. ABI - Always be Improving. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jethead Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 I really hope JD is able to land this guy. Could be our Pete Kendall. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choon328 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 29 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: Eh. I think they will pick up some TEs, but I don't think it's going to be some big deal like Ertz or Njoku. I predict they will be happy enough with Kroft and will make some bottom of roster moves for athletes they like and hope to come up with a Waller type find. Maybe I'm wrong but this entire off-season, including this possible Moses deal, has been about upgrading every position possible on offense. It was reported that they made a run at Jonnu Smith in FA so I don't think they're done upgrading the position. Why would they choose to go balls to the wall upgrading the offense in FA and the draft and then just ignore the TE position? It was literally the worst TE room in the nfl in 2020 and all they did was add a career backup who couldn't start over Dawson Knox last year. Yesterday, a reporter asked LaFleur about the TE position and the best thing he could say about all of them is that they're professional and you can tell they've played on Sundays. There was no talk about being excited to see how Kroft or Herndon play in this offense or anything like that. They're not satisfied with the TE room and how could anybody? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 This also points to Douglas having a better feeling about this roster because last year when he had the cap $$$ he never really went after available vets when he had the chance (Clowney, Logan Ryan) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 38 minutes ago, Adoni Beast said: If this goes through then Fant will be one well paid backup and that’s fine with the cap space we have + importance in keeping our rookie QB upright. Moses will hopefully be a 3 year deal and kept for a few seasons, making Fant expendable after this season. could they ask him to restructure? i think they have now guaranteed half his salary for this year, and he's got 0 guaranteed next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Scoop24 Posted June 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 17, 2021 22 minutes ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said: Even if Moses is a mild upgrade (not saying that he is or isn't), this is a good sign. ABI - Always be Improving. 6th best RT in the nfl last year according to PFF . I would say he is more than mild upgrade 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SackExchangeNYJ Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 1 hour ago, UntouchableCrew said: I also suspect, whether they admit it publicly or not, there's some concern about Becton's foot/overall health. This is why I absolutely think Fant stays. He is being paid too much not to start. He's an upgrade at RG over anyone else on the roster. And he can slide into either OT spots in a pinch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Fant will walk next year and he will net us a compensatory pick. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jeremy2020 Posted June 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 17, 2021 3 hours ago, Ghost said: This is awesome. Players are choosing us! It's amazing how offering the most money usually convinces people to sign with you! Everything is so different! 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 1 hour ago, jeremy2020 said: It's amazing how offering the most money usually convinces people to sign with you! Everything is so different! "It's OK Stan, everything's changed" - Randy M. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Keep Fant, play him at RG cut Alex Lewis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 2 hours ago, k-met57 said: could they ask him to restructure? i think they have now guaranteed half his salary for this year, and he's got 0 guaranteed next year. I guess they could but if they’re not spending that $ elsewhere, do everything you can from him holding out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexVanDyke Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 3 hours ago, flgreen said: Have no idea what is going to happen, but keep in mind that Fant is only guaranteed $4.5M. Wonder if Joe is going to try to choke a couple of million out of him? We'll see Who was playing rg diring camp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, AlexVanDyke said: Who was playing rg diring camp? For the most part, Greg Van Roten. Didn't play very well last season, but IMO he's a bettr player then he showed last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 I fear this is more of concern becton can’t stay healthy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard13 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 5 hours ago, Ghost said: This is awesome. Players are choosing us! Must be a full moon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberjet Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Can you imagine if Fant doesn’t want to give up his #76?! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrebetfan80 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 ??? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alka Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 By the way, does anyone know why Washington let Moses go? I am a bit curious, and I haven't seen anything said on that subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 3 hours ago, Scoop24 said: 6th best RT in the nfl last year according to PFF . I would say he is more than mild upgrade In that case, this shouldn't be much of a decision for JD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawaiisOnlyJetsFan Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 13 minutes ago, Alka said: By the way, does anyone know why Washington let Moses go? I am a bit curious, and I haven't seen anything said on that subject. Cap casualty and they drafted Cosmi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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