Jetsfan80 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Last night the Buccaneers got a 20-14 road win over the Panthers, during which the Tampa Bay defense held Christian McCaffery to 53 total yards from scrimmage, 1 week removed from McCaffrey putting up 209 yards from scrimmage against the Rams. The TB front 7 was aggressive all night against Norv Turner's Panther offense, with Bowles clearly getting the better of him. Discuss. 2 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 He’s had success as a DC before also, one game 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 ...and the hits just keep on coming on station WTHF 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RoadFan Posted September 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 13, 2019 No thanks. I'm still trying to forget his penchant for punting the ball back to HOF QBs down two scores late in the 4th quarter on 4th and 2 from midfield. 10 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Beerfish Posted September 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 13, 2019 While leading 20-14 Tampa thinking carolina was going to score called a time out. After the time out there was massive confusion on the tampa D side of the ball and they called ANOTHER time out thus taking a penalty and instead of it being 4th and about 3 it was 4th and less than a yard. Tampa was bailed out by an excellent play by Humprhies that tackled mccaffery and ended the game. Apparently Chris Webber is their time out consultant. Todd Bowles at his finest. 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Bowles has always been a good dc. That has no bearing on how you are as a hc. So here comes idiot jet fan posts about how todd bowles sucks. 6 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Are we supposed to be upset we let the golden goose slip from our grasp? Because we didn't. Whatever he may or may not be as a DC is irrelevant. Dude was an awful head coach and can smd. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nico002 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Meh one game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Averagejetsfan1421 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 There olb recorded 3 sacks yesterday!! Why couldn’t he find us one of those!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Well the biggest difference . Is he isnt use kacey Rodgers to run the defense. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Bowles wasn't the DC here, his pal Kacey Rodgers was, not sure what we are going for here..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jetstream23 Posted September 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 13, 2019 Bowles as DC > Bowles as HC Some people still don’t understand this. Have you ever seen Wayne Gretzky play hockey? Ever seen him coach? Some guys are well-suited for one thing and just really not good at something else even if it seems closely related. The Jets have taken two excellent defensive coordinators in Rex Ryan and Todd Bowles who they unfortunately hired to be head coaches. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 19 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Last night the Buccaneers got a 20-14 road win over the Panthers, during which the Tampa Bay defense held Christian McCaffery to 53 total yards from scrimmage, 1 week removed from McCaffrey putting up 209 yards from scrimmage against the Rams. The TB front 7 was aggressive all night against Norv Turner's Panther offense, with Bowles clearly getting the better of him. Discuss. Cam Newton missed wide open WRs all night. With that said, I think Bowles is a solid DC. You can be a good DC and be totally unqualified to be a head coach (see the mistake at the end of the game that almost gave the Panthers a free first down). 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 21 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Discuss. Why? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, NoBowles said: Bowles wasn't the DC here, his pal Kacey Rodgers was, not sure what we are going for here..... It’s obvious what people are going for around here lately. Anything that makes the Jets look bad, anything that makes it seem as if teams are benefiting from Jets decisions or bad fortune. All of that is fair game and gets a full thread. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 The claims that Bowles was a bad DC were only ever bitterness from (understandably) fed up fans. He absolutely was a terrible HC and clearly not fit for the position, but he's far from the first one who can still succeed as a coordinator both before and after having shown that. We even get a momentary glimpse of that here, when the Jets D immediately performed significantly better when he took over play-calling short term. Don't get me wrong, he's certainly not some unbelievably great savant at it all, but he's still good enough for the job. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 10 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: Bowles has always been a good dc. That has no bearing on how you are as a hc. So here comes idiot jet fan posts about how todd bowles sucks. He's the Ken Whisenhunt of Defensive Coordinators... Bowels good DC, awful HC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Maxman Posted September 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 13, 2019 Bowles was a really good DC. As a head coach two things hurt him 1) his inability to put together a great staff \ loyalty to Kacy and 2) having Macc put together a roster that he had to coach. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Cam Newton handed him that game, pressure on the QB comes with the right players in place and usually results in a win. TB still stinks as far as i'm concerned. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 29 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Last night the Buccaneers got a 20-14 road win over the Panthers, during which the Tampa Bay defense held Christian McCaffery to 53 total yards from scrimmage, 1 week removed from McCaffrey putting up 209 yards from scrimmage against the Rams. The TB front 7 was aggressive all night against Norv Turner's Panther offense, with Bowles clearly getting the better of him. Discuss. Lame attempt at drama. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Extraordinaire: outstanding or remarkable in a particular capacity. What about Todd Bowles defense is outstanding or remarkable?? Nobody questioned his ability to be a DC, he is fine, what anyone with half a brain questioned was his ability to be a HC. His staff's were awful, he is not HC material. Doesn't have anything to do with his ability to be a DC, which is fine, but not in anyway extraordinaire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Todd Bowles is not our coach anymore. Nothing he does, positive or negative, has any impact on the Jets unless he is playing us or a team we are competing with for a playoff spot. Was different when Rex left and went to a Divsiion rival. I really don't care if he is or is not successful in Tampa. His defense played well last night. So be it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH1962 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 24 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: Bowles as DC > Bowles as HC Some people still don’t understand this. Have you ever seen Wayne Gretzky play hockey? Ever seen him coach? Some guys are well-suited for one thing and just really not good at something else even if it seems closely related. The Jets have taken two excellent defensive coordinators in Rex Ryan and Todd Bowles who they unfortunately hired to be head coaches. Excellent post WITHOUT having to call others "idiots". 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 after seeing the long line of failed mac draft picks it makes you wonder why bowles just didn't quit instead of take it. imo bowles gets far too much blame for the jets record. he made some some mistakes with discipline and he was more of a players coach than the jets needed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 He looked a little lively on the sideline too talking a lot with his play sheet in his hand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 So....now we're pining for Todd Bowles again? Who started giving out free Chrystal Meth? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenbloodblitz Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 28 minutes ago, Creepy Lurker said: I love me some Gladys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shuler82 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Anyone watching that game and walked away thinking the Tampa D success was due to Bowles and not Cam Newton’s health is either a NFL network announcer, a Tampa Bay fanboy, or a troll on a Jets message board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Gase is the opposite of Bowles, in that he is an offensive guru that owns the offense as HC, similar to Doug Pederson. There are other HCs who hire capable people to run both offense and defense. that is harder to do because those people are scarce, and you have to pay them. Gase pays the Hobbit to help. Bowles failure was delegating his defense to Kacy. Similarly, Mac delegated the scouting to Barzigan and others. In both cases, the results were disasterous. I think the only team that gives Bowles a second chance to HC is TB when Arians retires again. I think that is the plan. I think Bowles is a personal project for Arians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 They have better players? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said: Last night the Buccaneers got a 20-14 road win over the Panthers, during which the Tampa Bay defense held Christian McCaffery to 53 total yards from scrimmage, 1 week removed from McCaffrey putting up 209 yards from scrimmage against the Rams. The TB front 7 was aggressive all night against Norv Turner's Panther offense, with Bowles clearly getting the better of him. Discuss. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 I thought Bowles was a good leader and a solid guy. But he’s a former DB and his secondary regularly got torched. I can’t see blaming all of it on the DC Bowles was in charge and the D reflected him. He had 4 years his specialty is defense and they sucked. So his firing was deserved. The season opener for the Bucs a home game they lost 31-17 although mostly because Jameis threw 3 picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: Last night the Buccaneers got a 20-14 road win over the Panthers, during which the Tampa Bay defense held Christian McCaffery to 53 total yards from scrimmage, 1 week removed from McCaffrey putting up 209 yards from scrimmage against the Rams. The TB front 7 was aggressive all night against Norv Turner's Panther offense, with Bowles clearly getting the better of him. Discuss. What exactly is the purpose of this thread ? BTW : Errr didn't Todd's D just give up 31 last week against the 49ers or am I mistaken ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 13, 2019 Author Share Posted September 13, 2019 1 hour ago, rangerous said: after seeing the long line of failed mac draft picks it makes you wonder why bowles just didn't quit instead of take it. imo bowles gets far too much blame for the jets record. he made some some mistakes with discipline and he was more of a players coach than the jets needed. ^^^^ This was the purpose of the thread, for those wondering. Bowles' most egregious mistake was hiring, and keeping on, Kacy Rodgers as the DC. Otherwise he deserves much more of a pass than he gets around here. Bowles found a DC job in 5 minutes. Macc.....still unemployed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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