genot Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 28 minutes ago, Doggin94it said: That's not how statistical modeling works This isn't modeling the amount of people who call in sick after the Super Bowl. If you can't give an accurate number on how many people will get the virus, then STFU. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBeardedSavage Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 10 minutes ago, genot said: This isn't modeling the amount of people who call in sick after the Super Bowl. If you can't give an accurate number on how many people will get the virus, then STFU. All modeling is a projection given the data available. Experts in this field will continue to rework their models as new data becomes available. While it’s not worth freaking out over right now it is worth paying attention to current projections and to continue to look at new models as they’re put out. I’m saying trust the experts and don’t sh*t on the current models because it’s based on the best information we have right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, RedBeardedSavage said: All modeling is a projection given the data available. Experts in this field will continue to rework their models as new data becomes available. While it’s not worth freaking out over right now it is worth paying attention to current projections and to continue to look at new models as they’re put out. I’m saying trust the experts and don’t sh*t on the current models because it’s based on the best information we have right now. I'm sorry. An 80 million disparity tells me they need to wait until they come up with more reliable data. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustEndTheSuffering Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Can we just go back like a month or even a couple of weeks. It was a simpler time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBeardedSavage Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, genot said: I'm sorry. An 80 million disparity tells me they need to wait until they come up with more reliable data. It tells me that regardless of anyone’s political beliefs, risk tolerance or skepticism, life will change, at least a little bit, for the next few weeks/months. Act accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Dunnie said: Bad flu ??? Dude ... Flu mortality rate is .1 %.... This is far worse in those terms Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk It's almost impossible to determine if this is far worse or not (I will concede that it is likely higher than .1pct). However, the mortality rate for healthy people and young people is next to zero. For the elderly and people with underlying conditions it's pretty high. I read that not a single child under 9 has died. So there are some good signs that aren't being reported. What we do know is that many people who contract Covid never get tested, recover and are not a part of the data. Right now, most of the people testing positive are people who get seriously sick (or were exposed to someone who got seriously sick) so obviously they are more likely do die thereby skewing the mortality rate. Remember, we were specifically told to stay home if you have mild symptoms and NOT go to the Dr or the hospital. My guess (and this is all just speculation) is that the amount of cases in america is VASTLY higher than being reported but that also means the percentage of people dying is vastly lower than being reported. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nico002 Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Lith said: So, it looks like my options for the weekend are English Premier League, or sitting with the wife watching Ghost Adventures, Real Housewives or Home Makeover shows. English Premier League it is. Go Tottenham Hotspur!! An EPL coach got diagnosed, no shot they play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 9 minutes ago, RedBeardedSavage said: It tells me that regardless of anyone’s political beliefs, risk tolerance or skepticism, life will change, at least a little bit, for the next few weeks/months. Act accordingly. Without a doubt. Everyone needs to do the obvious to protect themselves, and the people around them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfield Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 17 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: It's almost impossible to determine if this is far worse or not (I will concede that it is likely higher than .1pct). However, the mortality rate for healthy people and young people is next to zero. For the elderly and people with underlying conditions it's pretty high. I read that not a single child under 9 has died. So there are some good signs that aren't being reported. What we do know is that many people who contract Covid never get tested, recover and are not a part of the data. Right now, most of the people testing positive are people who get seriously sick (or were exposed to someone who got seriously sick) so obviously they are more likely do die thereby skewing the mortality rate. Remember, we were specifically told to stay home if you have mild symptoms and NOT go to the Dr or the hospital. My guess (and this is all just speculation) is that the amount of cases in america is VASTLY higher than being reported but that also means the percentage of people dying is vastly lower than being reported. I agree, many more people have covid 19 than realize it. Its been going around for months. But, in regards to the fatality rate, people with mild symptoms of the flu also don’t go to the doctor, and don’t get tested, and therefore aren’t part of that equation either. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Lith said: Nohting to do with the movie, but monkey gang wars are becoming a thing in Thailand. reminds me of soccer hooligan days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 3 hours ago, Dunnie said: At least people care about their own asses ... This is the toilet paper isle in the 3rd store I visited Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk is the thing i dread most if the apocolypse comes, lack of TP... ( not even kidding) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 There is only one possible explanation to all these cancellations: racism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Lots of unfortunate things going on. One of the bad things just from a morale and psychological way for us is that our forms of entertainment such as sport, music etc are what we use to get away from the pressures or tough things of life (work, finances, family issues). We watch sports, music, art etc to relieve our stresses. With these 'distractions' gone this plays on the human psyche even moreso. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebuzzardman Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 6 hours ago, CTM said: The funny thing to me is the same people wanting all of this stuff cancelled are the same people saying this is a huge issue because China hasn't actually curbed it and it will explode there once they re enter the world. ( i agree with this) Either this is going to be dissipated by warmer weather or its going to spread like wildfire eventually once people get bored with staying home (or can no longer afford too do so I can see merit to slowing it down until warmer weather arrives, but the current solutions aren't really going to stop this thing long term. It will just spike again once people reenter the world Or there is a lull with warmer weather and it comes back in the fall/winter. EXACTLY like the 1918 Spanish Flu. Obviously what we know about influenza, antibiotics being available for secondary infections non viral, ICU care etc make it not the same, but it could be bad. Not you, but I see people making in political to even acknowledge it might be an issue. Oh well. Sometimes I guess humanity gets what it deserves. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 7 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Lots of unfortunate things going on. One of the bad things just from a morale and psychological way for us is that our forms of entertainment such as sport, music etc are what we use to get away from the pressures or tough things of life (work, finances, family issues). We watch sports, music, art etc to relieve our stresses. With these 'distractions' gone this plays on the human psyche even moreso. Some of us are Jets/Islanders/Knicks fans. My stress levels will go down now if I don't have to watch them. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxgreen Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 46 minutes ago, nico002 said: An EPL coach got diagnosed, no shot they play Arteta too of all people. As if he didn't have enough problems at Arsenal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebuzzardman Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 3 hours ago, genot said: Italy is a filthy country, sad to say. I'm Italian. Have they instituted pooper-scooper laws yet? The outbreak is the worst in Lombardy, which is in northern Italy, and quite clean. And fairly wealthy. I lived in the region for 18 months. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 The last I heard the NFL will go with it's March calendar which is free agency and that can all be handled by telephone, online, etc. There's no reason to cancel it. Or reason for anyone to have to travel. Contracts can be faxed etc. As for the draft it's in April and it's not essential even though the NFL has made a big deal about and made a lot of money from it. It's now on network TV, there are events around the draft, etc. I can't see it being live in person with thousands of people. I think we'd all agree that if they can cancel the NBA, NFL, NCAAs they can conduct it but only on TV. They could even do it without the key players present. Do a live feed from their homes no parties just the kid and his immediate fam. I actually like that better than cramming the kid into the green room and sometimes embarrassing them. Remember Geno Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 50 minutes ago, thebuzzardman said: Or there is a lull with warmer weather and it comes back in the fall/winter. EXACTLY like the 1918 Spanish Flu. Obviously what we know about influenza, antibiotics being available for secondary infections non viral, ICU care etc make it not the same, but it could be bad. Not you, but I see people making in political to even acknowledge it might be an issue. Oh well. Sometimes I guess humanity gets what it deserves. If I had to bet it dissipates this spring / summer and then we have a race between human ingenuity and the onset of winter. I think we figure it out. They've made so much progress so quickly. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 5 hours ago, CTJetsFan said: I respectfully disagree. The # of people with this as a % of the US population is miniscule. It's not ebola. It's a bad case of the flu. In addition to "reporting the facts", the mainstream media thrives on a good crisis and is fueling the flames causing a panic. Link? It’s a pandemic. The numbers in the US are going to skyrocket. This is very bad. Trust me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Charlie Brown Posted March 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2020 Sports will return in the summer so relax..... However this is not a "flu" in the sense of the word that folks are used to...... Please be careful The full story has not been written or told!! Let's have Compassion for one another and all will be well......... 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 5 hours ago, Butterfield said: I don’t disagree that the media never helps, but neither do gross generalizations. This is nothing like the flu. Isn't saying "it's nothing like the flu" a gross generalization? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 34 minutes ago, CTM said: If I had to bet it dissipates this spring / summer and then we have a race between human ingenuity and the onset of winter. I think we figure it out. They've made so much progress so quickly. I’m not as optimistic. I heard that the CDC hired Maccagnan and asked him to “draft” some plans for the pandemic. I’ll show myself out...... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Integrity28 Posted March 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2020 Pretending to have it all figured out, and therefore criticizing/shaming others for concerns or reliance upon facts, is a grotesque manifestation of fear... baser instincts that inhibit the ability to show empathy or compassion (true strength). In short, some of you insecure dummies need to **** off. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman10023 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 5 hours ago, Jimmy 2 Times said: How many people live check to check that now have to stay home with the kids? Live. That’s what they are trying to do. We have a lot of folks who are at risk in this country. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfield Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 18 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said: Isn't saying "it's nothing like the flu" a gross generalization? No, they aren’t close to being related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandy Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 I HAD BOX TICKETS TO A SPRING TRAINING GAME TOMORROW I'm extremely distraught. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Butterfield said: No, they aren’t close to being related. Yes, it is. By saying it's nothing like the flu, but then offering nothing other than a very vast general statement is exactly what a "gross generalization" is. I am not talking about the epidemiology of the virus. The term "it's nothing like the flu" is absolutely one of those "gross generalizations" you were on your soap box about. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfield Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 9 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said: Yes, it is. By saying it's nothing like the flu, but then offering nothing other than a very vast general statement is exactly what a "gross generalization" is. I am not talking about the epidemiology of the virus. The term "it's nothing like the flu" is absolutely one of those "gross generalizations" you were on your soap box about. What was that nonsense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 4 hours ago, genot said: I'm sorry. An 80 million disparity tells me they need to wait until they come up with more reliable data. An 80 million disparity tells you there are variables in play that can dramatically impact the outcome. No more, no less. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Grandy said: I HAD BOX TICKETS TO A SPRING TRAINING GAME TOMORROW I'm extremely distraught. I had tickets to the Yankees on Tuesday. Not happening. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 3 hours ago, Beerfish said: Lots of unfortunate things going on. One of the bad things just from a morale and psychological way for us is that our forms of entertainment such as sport, music etc are what we use to get away from the pressures or tough things of life (work, finances, family issues). We watch sports, music, art etc to relieve our stresses. With these 'distractions' gone this plays on the human psyche even moreso. CoD Warzone just came out, re-upped my Live membership, I'm ready for the end of dayz! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 8 hours ago, CTJetsFan said: I respectfully disagree. The # of people with this as a % of the US population is miniscule. It's not ebola. It's a bad case of the flu. In addition to "reporting the facts", the mainstream media thrives on a good crisis and is fueling the flames causing a panic. Jesus there is a whole lotta WRONG in those two sentences.... 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Well, first it was safe spaces, pound me too, and now mass hysteria over the flu. This is a bunch of ?. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 1 hour ago, bla bla bla said: CoD Warzone just came out, re-upped my Live membership, I'm ready for the end of dayz! I've been playing world of tanks a fair bit again, might go back to some of my fav older mp games like mass effect 3 multiplayer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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