southtown24th Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 I will pack his bags for him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 37 minutes ago, Ghost said: You guys are ridiculous if you think a team is giving up a 2nd round pick for this scrub. I’d gladly eat crow. Did it taste good after everyone said Richardson would never bring back a 2 and a WR, Were as sure as you are about the younger, Leo? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Are we really keeping Bell beyond next year? I'd much rather trade him and draft a young player. I'm still of the opinion that if you draft a good OL, you can plug in a RB and he'll be fine. Yes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Jet Nut said: Did it taste good after everyone said Richardson would never bring back a 2, were as sure as you are about the younger, Leo? I still can’t believe we got a 2nd for Sheldon. Look at the Steelers this year trading a top 10 draft pick for Minkah. They already knew Big Ben was done for be year. There’s always a sucker out there. I just hope we have a shrewd/active GM. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Big fan of this new strategy of drafting players with high picks and then unloading them for mid to late rounders. Really brilliant stuff here. You look at the consistently successful franchises in the NFL and this is something they all clearly engage in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Just now, Creepy Lurker said: I still can’t believe we got a 2nd for Sheldon. Look at the Steelers this year trading a top 10 draft pick for Minkah. They already knew Big Ben was done for be year. There’s always a sucker out there. I just hope we have a shrewd/active GM. Exactly. Leo still gets pretty good to good press. I could see a team thinking a change of scenery or a change in scheme, linemates etc would unlock what he was thought to be 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 1 minute ago, RutgersJetFan said: Big fan of this new strategy of drafting players with high picks and then unloading them for mid to late rounders. Really brilliant stuff here. You look at the consistently successful franchises in the NFL and this is something they all clearly engage in. I understand your point but we are just cutting our losses because UNLIKE successful franchises, we don’t draft well with top picks at all. That’s the glaring issue. Not unloading jags for mid to late rounders. We have fix the source of the problem which is TERRIBLE drafting. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post UntouchableCrew Posted October 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2019 If we're going to turn this around we're going to do it by Joe Douglas drafting good players, which means we want to get him as many draft picks as possible to work with. If we can get a third or better this is a no brainer. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: Big fan of this new strategy of drafting players with high picks and then unloading them for mid to late rounders. Really brilliant stuff here. You look at the consistently successful franchises in the NFL and this is something they all clearly engage in. You're a Jets fan. This is not new nor brilliant but you knew that already. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 13 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Are we really keeping Bell beyond next year? I'd much rather trade him and draft a young player. I'm still of the opinion that if you draft a good OL, you can plug in a RB and he'll be fine. If hes the Bell whos a top of the NFL back? To play with Sam? Ugh, yes, we would Because the opinion that you can just plug and play any RB with a good OL has been proven wrong time and time again? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icer Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 What's the compensatory pick look like if he signs during FA with another team? Depends on the $, I would assume Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Icer said: What's the compensatory pick look like if he signs during FA with another team? Depends on the $, I would assume Best we could get is a 3rd rounder in that case. Doubt he signs for 3rd rounder money though. Best case we get a 4th. better to try and trade him first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: If hes the Bell whos a top of the NFL back? To play with Sam? Ugh, yes, we would Because the opinion that you can just plug and play any RB with a good OL has been proven wrong time and time again? Didn't the Steelers' backup RB do very well last year? Connor I think was his name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darnold Schwarzenegger Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Didn't the Steelers' backup RB do very well last year? Connor I think was his name. Is that the same rb who hasn't topped 56 yards rushing this year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Ghost said: You guys are ridiculous if you think a team is giving up a 2nd round pick for this scrub. I’d gladly eat crow. He’s probably worth a 3rd or 4th so if you can get someone big eyed and desperate enough... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 42 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: https://thejetpress.com/2019/10/13/new-york-jets-leonard-williams-bidding/ Per Adam Schefter, the price for Williams would be in a similar range or even higher than other deals we’ve seen in the last two years for other defenders. For example, the Houston Texans traded former No. 1 overall pick Jadeveon Clowney to the Seattle Seahawks for a third-round draft choice, Barkevious Mingo and Jacob Martin. The other example from 2018 was the Jacksonville Jaguars sent pass rusher Dante Fowler Jr. to the Los Angeles Rams for third and fifth-round draft picks. Schefter is reporting that the Jets can get at least that and probably even more stemming from a possible bidding war. Not sure who this Schefter is but JN intelligentsia has told me that we should take a 4th and run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Pac said: Why would you take anything less when they can get a 3rd round comp pick for letting him walk. Because we have to turn over a lot of the roster, meaning we might be buyers in free agency. That would negate the 3rd round compensatory pick we MIGHT get in 2021. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 44 minutes ago, slats said: That's no guarantee. And at best, it would be something like the last pick in the third round in 2021 vs. a higher third round pick in 2020. A third would definitely be on the table. I don't think so.. but I guess we'll find out soon enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 40 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: Big fan of this new strategy of drafting players with high picks and then unloading them for mid to late rounders. Really brilliant stuff here. You look at the consistently successful franchises in the NFL and this is something they all clearly engage in. What do you suggest they do with him? Re-sign? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 42 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: Big fan of this new strategy of drafting players with high picks and then unloading them for mid to late rounders. Really brilliant stuff here. You look at the consistently successful franchises in the NFL and this is something they all clearly engage in. Joe Douglas didn't draft Leonard Williams. I'd like to fire Macc again if we could. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 not sure this will help as much as Gase and GW saying it, but Leo is playing great. Now trade him for the best offer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 We are not getting any comp picks most likely so forget that. If we are dumping price vets and adding to the cap so we can spend we will not get comp picks unless the team carries over a lot of cap space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 57 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Did it taste good after everyone said Richardson would never bring back a 2 and a WR, Were as sure as you are about the younger, Leo? At least Richardson flashed before. Leo is GARBAGE! A team will be idiotic to give up a 2nd for him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Ghost said: At least Richardson flashed before. Leo is GARBAGE! A team will be idiotic to give up a 2nd for him. They will wait and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, Beerfish said: We are not getting any comp picks most likely so forget that. If we are dumping price vets and adding to the cap so we can spend we will not get comp picks unless the team carries over a lot of cap space. This is a good point. Have to figure Joe Douglas will be more of a buyer than seller in next year's free agent market. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache 51 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 1 minute ago, slats said: This is a good point. Have to figure Joe Douglas will be more of a buyer than seller in next year's free agent market. Get rid of the fat now, get ducks in a row and build his team. I am looking forward to what he will do we have been waiting for a long time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Age is on our side. Production not so much. Need Williams to keep pumping that doing-the-dirty-work angle and maybe we can see a 2nd, or 3rd and late-rounder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCP63 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 1 hour ago, RutgersJetFan said: Big fan of this new strategy of drafting players with high picks and then unloading them for mid to late rounders. Really brilliant stuff here. You look at the consistently successful franchises in the NFL and this is something they all clearly engage in. Don't fall into the trap of loss aversion. We don't want to compound our mistake by trying to remediate it when it can't be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BurnleyJet Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Philc1 said: I could see the chiefs offering us a 5th You think they will over pay by that much? ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 21 minutes ago, Ghost said: At least Richardson flashed before. Leo is GARBAGE! A team will be idiotic to give up a 2nd for him. The Seahawks gave up a 2nd and a player for Sheldon.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 I hope he has a fluke big game today which can propel his *ss out of here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmajet Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 If we let him walk, we get a 3rd (unless we are active in FA) a year later; so, I would expect we won't trade him unless we get at least a 3rd. There may be other teams who care about more than just stats.... I never thought we would get a 2nd for Sheldon - here is hoping... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Jump for joy at a 3rd. For a guy we're not resigning anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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