jetstream23 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 35 minutes ago, bitonti said: as a Sewell at 2 fan, this is a silver lining of the Johnson's not knowing what a sunk cost is what's the worst that happens they take an All Pro tackle and find an identity Fair point. The concern is that the Jets end up exactly where Philly is right now if they exercise the 5th year option or extend Sam. They have an expensive QB that's difficult to unload and they're drafting in No Man's Land between say 8 and 15 the next few years with no real ability to find Sam's replacement. How about Fields at #2 and Sam Cosmi or Alex Leatherwood later in Round 1? There's also no reason you couldn't also keep Sam in this scenario. The Jets extended Sanchez (without a big commitment) while also drafting Geno Smith. The Eagles extended Wentz and drafted Hurts. Why not use some of the huge Cap space for 2022 to exercise Sam's 5th year option, gaining a bit of time and leverage, while also drafting someone like Fields? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post UntouchableCrew Posted January 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 4, 2021 8 minutes ago, Jetsbb said: "I’m a huge fan of Sam. I think he’s a great QB,” Johnson said, via Ralph Vacchiano of SNY. “I think he has wonderful talent and drive and leadership. I don’t think the book has been written on Sam. He has a very big future. And I personally hope it’s on this team. That’s what I told him after the game: I hope he is a Jet going forward. But that decision will be made by Joe Douglas and our new coach. That’s about as definitive as I can get on Sam.” The most concerning part of this quote is that he told Darnold personally he wants him to stay a Jet. This could have been dismissed as just standard talk to hype his trade value until he revealed his personal conversation with Darnold. This is not good. When Joe talks to the media I fully expect him to say Sam Darnold is the starting QB in 2021. Typical Jets investing in sunk cots basing decision on value they gave up for previous mistakes instead of moving on. I think he's just being nice because he genuinely likes Sam (and it's not like we should be saying bad things about a guy we're about to trade.) Right after saying that he gave himself the "out" that it's not his decision. JD is the "bad guy" who's gonna dump him. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peekskill68 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 7 minutes ago, rangerous said: i don't know how anyone can say this? parcells and the bellichicken certainly took an interest in the offense even though they were defense guys. i'm not sure where john harbaugh came from but he was the special teams coach before becoming head coach. this whole ceo designation is getting people tied up in knots. to me it just means the next coach is going to be more of an overseer. he not necessarily going to be calling offensive or defensive plays. this is a good thing. Parcells had Charlie Weis call and design the offense and Belichick call and design the defense. Not sure I can imagine seeing a new HC like Daboll not being more like a Gase where he focuses on the offense and his DC is almost like an equal... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 5 minutes ago, flgreen said: I suspect Harbaugh doesn't even get a call. Douglas is going to hire someone he, or Rex Hogan is familar with. Didnt they report that Harbaugh and Michigan were near an extension through 2026? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BettyBoop Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 15 minutes ago, Ohhthepain said: JOE DOUGLAS is the true ALPHA MALE FOOTBALL GUY that this franchise needed. The ultimate catalyst He trimmed the fat. He forced the fake news journalist to be banished from the NFL. He traded/cut the malcontents like Adams/Bell when they were alienated by their HC. He fired the meek, bookworm pencil pusher that was Adam Gase who couldnt connect with the whole team. He aced his first draft and masterfully played the board like a RESPECTED GM. Leave the keys in the hands of the true FOOTBALL personnel GUY, the ALPHA LEADER of the franchise. He is the KRYPTONITE of the eeyore SOJ "fans" that thrive and consume misery 24/7. SOJ fans hate him and everything he does. In other words he is exactly what the Dr ordered. Ohhthepain It’s SORE II!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 I'm not going to worry until I hear what the new head coach says. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 29 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Thanks for the update guys I missed the presser. I had a 12:30 appointment at the firing range. Money well spent. So did Gase ? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullblast Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 This means nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Warfish Posted January 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 4, 2021 You want scared? Try this: 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Yeah, I bet it terrified Sam Darnold, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgivs21 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 He really should just keep quiet. This is the same idiot who called Gase an offensive genius a few months ago. The only time we need to hear from him is when he introduces the new HC. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted January 4, 2021 Author Share Posted January 4, 2021 He spun this same bs wen they hired Gase. No, Chris, we’re on the verge of not caring anymore lol. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 The fact that Douglas didnt run the call today leads me to believe nothing is really changing. How was he not involved in this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Warfish said: You want scared? Try this: ^^ Still looks more sane than Adam Gase. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetstream Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 10 minutes ago, sourceworx said: "The book hasn't been written on Sam." They said the same thing about Hackenberg right before they got rid of him. He's referring to his check book.... my understanding is he also said It won't be his decision... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post bitonti Posted January 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 4, 2021 1 minute ago, jetstream23 said: How about Fields at #2 and Sam Cosmi or Alex Leatherwood later in Round 1? how about Sewell at 2 and Trey Lance or Wilson later in rd 1 how about James Morgan, a vet and rookie in a competition for the job 2 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: The concern is that the Jets end up exactly where Philly is right now if they exercise the 5th year option or extend Sam. i don't think we have to be concerned that the Jets will fall down the stairs and accidentally give Sam Darnold 25 million dollars. even if they decline the option and he turns into a star somehow in year 4 they have the tags worst case which is basically like 5th year option for a QB at 3 overall. it's a huge wad of cash either way, maybe the same top5 average for the position. it's more of a concern the Jets draft Fields (or even TL at 2 if he falls) and the dude gets Joe Burrow'ed 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 12 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: No worries. This is classic good cop, bad cop. Owner says all the nice things, Joe Douglas steps up behind Joe Pesce with the gun in the empty room from Goodfellas. This. If new HC or JD get rid of Sam, then it’s a signal the owners are staying out of it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Matt39 said: The fact that Douglas didnt run the call today leads me to believe nothing is really changing. How was he not involved in this? I hope it's because he's too busy doing real work. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icer Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Sam is a nice guy so everyone wants him to succeed, its normal. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jgb Posted January 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 4, 2021 Shut up and sign the check for the guy JD wants. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 I guess discussing this in the Christopher Johnson presser thread made way too much sense? LOL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Just now, Spoot-Face said: I hope it's because he's too busy doing real work. Communications is real work. Arguably the most important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Fleming Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 He did say “I hope” after each statement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 11 minutes ago, k-met57 said: thats great to hear man...Darnold should get the shot to prove he is the guy with some help. Yes he can walk into a Dr's office have a physical and prove , he is a guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 12 minutes ago, Carnival Barker said: He also said he wanted Jamal Adams to remain a Jet. No one wanted that though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said: I hope it's because he's too busy doing real work. Or its because it was CJs presser. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 6 minutes ago, Warfish said: You want scared? Try this: Gase's mom? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 NO IT IS NOT stop with this what is he gonna say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 9 minutes ago, slimjasi said: I'm not going to worry until I hear what the new head coach says. bingo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxgreen Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Joe Douglas has roster control written into his contract. CJ even mentioned "I hope he stays." Hope being the key word there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Communications is real work. Arguably the most important. More important than organizing the search for the HC? Please tell me you're being sarcastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlito1171 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 JD has been handed the keys to the franchise....that’s all we can ask for at this point! Hope he’s the guy for the task and let the chips fall where they may.... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 18 minutes ago, Jetsbb said: "I’m a huge fan of Sam. I think he’s a great QB,” Johnson said, via Ralph Vacchiano of SNY. “I think he has wonderful talent and drive and leadership. I don’t think the book has been written on Sam. He has a very big future. And I personally hope it’s on this team. That’s what I told him after the game: I hope he is a Jet going forward. But that decision will be made by Joe Douglas and our new coach. That’s about as definitive as I can get on Sam.” The most concerning part of this quote is that he told Darnold personally he wants him to stay a Jet. This could have been dismissed as just standard talk to hype his trade value until he revealed his personal conversation with Darnold. This is not good. When Joe talks to the media I fully expect him to say Sam Darnold is the starting QB in 2021. Typical Jets investing in sunk cots basing decision on value they gave up for previous mistakes instead of moving on. There is nothing bad about this. Our owner can be a fan. As long as Douglas and the new coach are making the decisions, that is progress. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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