Trevor Lawrence is the answer: MERGED

[playtowinthegame]

3 hours ago, joewilly12 said:

 

 

[Creepy Lurker]

1 hour ago, UnknownJetFan said:

Hey the Brown did it for 5+ years in a row, so what are they privileged or something?. Now because of that they are on the cusp of the playoffs and have one of the most explosive offenses in the league.

I’m all for tanking. I just think that the NFL despises the Jets so much that they’ll have issue with it. 

[slimjasi]

3 hours ago, Bronx said:

The NFL should start a lottery system. Purposely tanking is a shameful process and a total disregard to loyal fans.

[maury77]

3 hours ago, Francis Sawyer 37 said:

11 more games and youre free.

The Morons will laugh at the Jets while youre set up at QB for the foreseeable future. Brady is gone and Belichick dont have that many years left. Blow by Josh Allen and the Division is the Jets.

Josh Allen is a poor man's Trevor Lawrence. 

[TuscanyTile2]

3 hours ago, Bronx said:

The NFL should start a lottery system. Purposely tanking is a shameful process and a total disregard to loyal fans.

Even though it could benefit the Jets this year, I have to agree with you on this point.  

[maury77]

If this really is the plan, as a season ticket holder, I'm glad they tanked the season that I didn't have to pay for any tickets. 

[FlagmanL11]

4 hours ago, Bronx said:

The NFL should start a lottery system. Purposely tanking is a shameful process and a total disregard to loyal fans.

Best year to tank as we did not have to be a STH. 

[King P]

3 hours ago, Rhg1084 said:

The only time I remember it legitimately working is when the Spurs tanked for Tim Duncan. They won a title his rookie year and went on to win 4 more. 
 

I mean if you have a shot at a possible generational player you almost gotta do it, no? 

Spurs didn't tank for Duncan. David Robinson was injured and out for the season, so of course they were terrible without him.

[Smashmouth]

4 hours ago, Bronx said:

The NFL should start a lottery system. Purposely tanking is a shameful process and a total disregard to loyal fans.

Lotteries suck ass just ask the Knicks. I'm not sure those extra 2 wins the Jets might get would mean so much to anyone.

[Beerfish]

This article by Bucky Brooks says it all about gase and jets decision making.

Panthers surprising everyone with potent offense; Ryan Tannehill's a top-five QB

Carolina's emergence as a contender in the NFC South is one of the most surprising early developments of the 2020 NFL season. Everyone expected the Saints and Buccaneers to be duking it out for top billing in the division, but not the Panthers, who own the same 3-2 record as New Orleans and Tampa Bay.

First-year head coach Matt Rhule arrived in Charlotte with plenty of fanfare, having fostered a reputation as a premium program builder at Baylor and Temple, but no one gave this roster much of a chance to compete in 2020. The key to Rhule's first Carolina club? A high-revving offense directed by another man fresh up from the college ranks, former LSU passing game coordinator Joe Brady. Despite the fact that Brady's calling plays on his own for the first time in his coaching career, the 31-year-old rookie offensive coordinator already has the Panthers humming at a high level. In fact, Carolina's currently on pace to finish with the highest total offense figure (399.6 yards per game) in team history. And the crazy part is that Brady's doing this while largely operating without the team's most dynamic weapon.

Think about that: The Panthers are operating at franchise-best levels -- in passing yards per game (281.6), giveaways per game (1.0) and passer rating (101.3), as well -- with first-team All-Pro playmaker Christian McCaffrey (high ankle sprain) having missed the past three games (all Carolina wins). At 24.4 points per game, the Panthers are scoring at a pace not seen since Cam Newton's MVP season of 2015.

How are the Panthers producing at such a high level behind an inexperienced play-caller who was unable to fully implement his system during the COVID-19-abbreviated offseason? Better yet, how are the Panthers balling out without the best running back in football in the lineup?

The answer is simple: Carolina's a tough-as-nails football team led by an underrated quarterback who knows how to maximize his gifted collection of pass catchers. Teddy Bridgewater is currently on pace to post career-highs in completion percentage (73.0), passing yards per game (292.0), yards per attempt (8.2) and passer rating (101.3). Picking apart opponents with pinpoint accuracy, Bridgewater has shown impressive anticipation and awareness as a distributor.

"Teddy is elite at knowing where to go with the ball," Rhule said, via the Charlotte Observer. "He's one of the best pocket-movement guys I've ever been around. ... And he's so smart. He has tremendous expectation and understanding of what we're trying to do."

As the point guard for the Panthers' fast-break offense, Bridgewater excels at getting the ball into the hands of wide receivers Robby Anderson, D.J. Moore and Curtis Samuel on the perimeter, as well as running back Mike Davis, who's done a fabulous job filling in for McCaffrey. This quartet of catch-and-run playmakers possesses the wiggle, bounce and power to get through traffic. Brady takes advantage of their skills by featuring a horizontal-based offense that's similar to the scheme that has helped Drew Brees thrive in New Orleans. Given that Brady and Bridgewater both spent two years with the Saints (crossing over in 2018), swiping New Orleans' playbook is sensible, especially considering the quarterback's success in the system as a temporary starter in 2019.

The Panthers' new QB1 has picked up where he left off in New Orleans by focusing on getting the ball to the playmakers and getting out of the way. Whether he is hitting Anderson or Moore on a variety of short and intermediate routes or tossing the rock to Samuel or Davis out of the backfield (Bridgewater has targeted players aligned in the backfield on 22.5 percent office attempts, per Next Gen Stats, the third-highest rate in the NFL), the seventh-year vet is taxing defenses with his balanced distribution to all areas. This tactic has not only forced opponents to defend the entire field, but it has made No. 5 a nightmare to defend due to a quick-rhythm approach that neutralizes the pass rush.

And keep in mind: The eventual return of McCaffrey will add an explosive dimension to the offense that could vault the Panthers' attack from good to great. Davis has performed admirably and put up some juicy fantasy football numbers (90-plus scrimmage yards and a touchdown in three straight games), but he's not CMC. The electric playmaker's return will add substantial spice to an offense that's already rounding into form.

Carolina has quietly entered the conversation as a playoff contender behind an offense that has more pop than expected. With Bridgewater and Co. finding a groove and McCaffrey expected back by month's end, is it possible these underdogs could make a wholly unexpected run at the NFC South title?

Ryan Tannehill: Elite QB? It's high time to put some respect on Tannehill's name as a top-five quarterback. The Titans' QB1 started to change the narrative surrounding him after capturing the 2019 Comeback Player of the Year award, but he deserves to be considered as one of the top quarterbacks in the game today, given the strong resume of work he's put together over the last year in Tennessee.

In 14 regular-season starts with the Titans, Tannehill has guided the Titans to an 11-3 mark with 3,602 pass yards (257.3 per game), a 31:6 touchdown-to-interception ratio and a 116.6 passer rating, while also running for an additional 258 yards and five scores. Compare that to Patrick Mahomes' production over his last 14 games: 11-3 record, 3,674 pass yards, 28:6 TD-to-INT ratio and 102.3 passer rating, with 266 yards rushing and four scores. Considering all the verbal bouquets scouts, coaches and observers toss at the 2018 MVP/reigning Super Bowl MVP, the football world needs to give Tannehill his due as an elite player.

That's hard for some skeptics who are still hung up on his inconsistent play in Miami, but the former No. 8 overall pick's streakiness might've been a byproduct of questionable teaching and instruction from his former Dolphins coaches. That's not a direct shot at Adam Gase alone, but it is hard to ignore the significant improvement in production and performance from Tannehill since his relocation to Nashville. He has played at an A+ level as a Titan, and his ability to thrive as a playmaker has propelled Tennessee into title contention.

If we are judging quarterbacks based on their individual accomplishments and team achievements, Tannehill must be included among the elites at the position.

[CanadienJetsFan]

I didn’t get the memo.

[doitny]

theres no tanking going on here. we really suck. and the schedule is that tough.  were the same team as last year expect missing Adams and Bell. Becton has missing what a game and a half and this sunday too. no Mimms yet. and that safety who i forgot his name hasnt played yet neither.

the thing im worried about is that they all 3 come back and get us a win or 2 and we lose Lawrence.

[choon328]

If this is the case then you trade:

Maye

Williamson

Jordan Jenkins

Herndon

Quinnen

 

Anybody that you can get something for in order to ensure the tank and also add some draft assets in the middle rounds this year. 

[fusionCA]

1 hour ago, King P said:

Spurs didn't tank for Duncan. David Robinson was injured and out for the season, so of course they were terrible without him.

Not entirely true,  they could have been much more competitive if they wanted too.

Anyway it worked so good for the sixers the nba had to black list sam hinkie (don't confuse the results after the league took over the sixers and run them to the ground)

[Lupz27]

5 hours ago, Rhg1084 said:

If it takes losing every game this season to land a possible All Pro QB it’s a no brainer

They already have a potential All Pro QB 23 he just being ruined by Gase, and the entire Jets organization.

[varjet]

• Gase stinks, but none of us thought that last year when he was hired.   We thought he could get it together. 
• There was not a tank this year, even after Adams was traded.
• Look at Tannehill and all of the other playersthriving after Gase, Darnold on the Jets, and other teams’ successes, and it is clear that Gase needs to go.  
• But it should be a tank now.  Keep Gase this year, fire him in December, trade players, and get a new QB on a 4 year rookie deal.  That is the answer. 

[Charlie Brown]

5 hours ago, ScouserJet said:

I want TL, but my ******* god I hate Gase.

 

if this is true then we’re keeping Gase for a 3rd term.

 

the guy is a parasite on this football team.

And it is a disgrace as to what they are doing to Sam Darnold.  It is things like this that make me lose some of my fandom. Darnold comes in here they have the worst OL, no skill players and horrific coaching and then we say we will ruin a good portion of your career and will tank for your replacement!

It's a joke!

[pointman]

Lose all 16. I don't care. My one and only concern is that somehow they try to justify Gase getting another season since this one was a full tank job. 

[Charlie Brown]

5 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said:

If the Jets put us through a purposeful 0-16 season and Trevor Lawrence isn't the next Peyton Manning or snubs us like the actual Peyton Manning ... I don't think there's any coming back from that. 

They need to think things like...

INJURIES HAPPEN!!!!

[More Cowbell]

6 hours ago, Rhg1084 said:

This was all part of Douglas plan 

Right, I'm sure the Jets upper management put out this statement. 

[Charlie Brown]

3 hours ago, Greenseed4 said:

Here’s the thing:
 

If Sam Darnold wants to prevent his job from being taken by TL, he has the option of playing better to ‘ruin the tank.’

If he can’t win games on his own he deserves to be replaced. 

This isn't boxing or tennis you can't win games by yourself in football

[Greenseed4]

13 minutes ago, Charlie Brown said:

This isn't boxing or tennis you can't win games by yourself in football

Thanks, Charlie. 

[Gastineau Lives]

6 hours ago, Team archer said:

They let the colts suck for luck and aint do sh*t. They were more blatant than us.

they actually weren't...and they didn't

[Greenseed4]

Hey guys, it’s been brought to my attention that football is a team sport. Perhaps getting a better QB is a bad idea because they can’t single handedly win football games. 

[Sperm Edwards]

16 hours ago, Rob Moore said:

Question:  Has tanking/attempting to tank ever truly worked for an NFL team? 
 

I know then bucs reportedly tanked a game to secure the #1 spot in order to draft Jameis.  After some promise he turned into a turnover machine and is gone. 

 

The colts reportedly did it once Manning was done in order to get Luck.  They had success with Luck but injuries piled up and he retired way before his time.

 

The goal of a tank is to acquire that most desirable rookie and as a result build a long term winning team and ultimately a super bowl.  Have these teams, or any other teams that tried to tank, actually  achieved these goals? 

The Colts didn't tank for Luck. It's revisionist history to make the means match the ends & is one of the league's great fairy tales. 

FFS they'd just given Manning a new contract that summer, cut nobody, jettisoned no one away for draft picks before the trade deadline, and even signed a veteran starting QB in August - the only one available - to hopefully keep them in the hunt until Manning returned. They ultimately went back to their 4th QB in picking up Orlovsky, but the team liked Painter better before that: he & Collins made the roster & Orlovsky didn't. It's not like Orlovsky - who sucked himself - had ever QB'd a winning game in the NFL before that; he hadn't. Their OL sucked: they had a rookie LT who missed 1/3 of the season, mostly playing next to a rookie LG, an over-promoted a RT (not like the Jets haven't done this plenty since y2k), a has-been RG whose career was over after 2011, and 36 year-old Jeff Saturday in the middle. Their defensive captain / MLB went on IR after 1 game and never played again. Their starting SS a week later (and also never played again). Manning didn't go on IR until after they'd gone to Orlovsky. 

Manning's neck injury was already known when they extended him on July 31st but they thought he'd be on the field that year. Nobody team to tank for a QB extends their veteran QB with a $100MM contract if they truly think he's going to miss the season after which they're going to dump him. Then in their home stretch at 0-13 they won 2 games that put that #1 pick in jeopardy, followed by every indication they were trying to win the final game in the end which would have sealed losing it. A tanking team never would have replaced the 0-8 Painter at all. His first few starts he wasn't great but we've seen far worse. Then he - and the D in particular - both hit the wall & collapsed. 

You can't get over 50 players + coaches in on a conspiracy and then get them to keep their mouths shut after they were cut/fired for their cooperation. It's lazy thinking, or lack of thinking. Sometimes teams just suck -- it happens every year without exception, and every team that sucks isn't trying to suck on purpose.

What the Jets are doing this year looks like a far more obvious tank job for the season, by a wide margin, over the 2011 Colts. Just like 2017, except the team won a few more games than planned.

[Skeet Ulrich]

5 hours ago, FidelioJet said:

I’m so tired of hearing this.  He wasn’t always slow, he certainly wasn’t the fastest back in the league but he had burst.  That burst is gone.  He looks slower than Gore.  It’s noticeable when you watch them play together.  He gets beat to the edge but 260 pound LB’s.

I have no reason to not the like the guy.  In fact I was one of the people around here that really wanted him.  I wanted him signed.  I was wrong. 

He ran a 4.6 at the combine, that's slow and that was 6 years ago. Vision and cuts is how he made his living.

[Jet2020]

8 hours ago, Creepy Lurker said:

The Jets will be the reason the NFL makes a draft lottery. 

Yeah because no team has ever ranked before. 

[BurnleyJet]

5 hours ago, maury77 said:

If this really is the plan, as a season ticket holder, I'm glad they tanked the season that I didn't have to pay for any tickets. 

Oh I’m 100% sure this as been discussed. They would not have tried this sh*t with fans in the building.

[carlito1171]

Look at our roster......this isn’t rocket science guys ??‍♂️

[carlito1171]

7 hours ago, MARTIN said:

It is unbelievable how many people on this site actually think Gase is "in" on this plan or has any shot at returning to coach next year.

There is ZERO % chance gase is back next year. ZERO. GASE SUCKS. He isn't trying to lose... He isn't trying to tank. He isn't in cahoots with the upper management on this plan.  JD knows that Gase can't sniff Harbaugh's or Doug Peterson's underwear in terms of being a HC.

You think JD is going to let Gase get his hands on another elite prospect to just ruin him like the last 2 QBs under his rule?

Again, ZERO chance Gase is the HC next year. ZERO.

 

100%

Total misread thinking Gase is in on this.....he’s not playing along....the roster is terrible and he does this team no favors with his ineptitude at coaching...the result of that is getting smoked week in and week out 

The dream is for Lawrence and the New Coach of their choice....even if they do pull it off there’s no guarantee that they don’t screw it up from that point on....

[Creepy Lurker]

4 hours ago, Jet2020 said:

Yeah because no team has ever ranked before. 

No sh*t. Teams have tanked before. Teams aren’t hated like the Jets. The sports media will crucify them. It will be interesting to see is all. 

[GreenFish]

We are not purposely trying to go 0-16.

We suck and may go 0-16 because of it. But there’s no doubt in my mind Gase is trying to win games this year. He just doesn’t know how to.

[sec101row23]

If the Jets plan is to intentionally tank the season then I can guarantee you they will not end up with the #1 overall pick.  When has this team ever executed a season long plan?  This franchise is so incompetent that it will somehow f**k up intentionally losing games.   Somehow, some way, the Jets will have the 3rd overall pick.  

[kevinc855]

another guy on twitter treated like news

[SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN]

14 hours ago, Rhg1084 said:

This was all part of Douglas plan