Gregg Williams fired

[SAR I]

17 minutes ago, TeddEY said:

I don't think Gase will be back either.

And, while I share the sentiment that he takes way to much blame here, I think something yesterday was glaring.  We saw a young running back put up a very nice game against a not good, but not awful Raiders run defense.  The Gase/Gore thing is inexplicable, especially with this most recent game.  Best guess as an explanation is that it's all about blocking assignments for Gase.  But, we ran the football well for the first time all season, and it came with Gore on the sidelines.

The team was built for Bell and Perine to be the primary ball carriers.  The only reason that Gore got all those touches was because Bell busted and was released and Perine can't stay healthy.  The two no-names we gave the ball to yesterday weren't given a lot of reps and needed to be coached-up mid-season.  

Yesterday wasn't about Gase blowing it with Gore; it was about Gase working miracles with two nobodies to the tune of almost 200 yards of rushing against a playoff team.  It's one of his finest moments.  It's exactly what so many are looking for-  signs that Gase can develop young players.

SAR I

[Ben Had]

10 minutes ago, SAR I said:

 And the Dolphins were never committed to a deep rebuild like this, two entirely different situations.

 

SAR I

You are clueless if you truly believe this.

Miami stripped there roster last year. For the first 7 games last year were considered a joke and tanking for the first draft pick. Most if not all thought they had the worst roster than the first year Buc's!

Big difference has turned out to be HC. If they had kept and Gase  do you think they would be 8-4 now?

[JetBlue]

I seriously doubt he is back next year.  I fully expect him to coach out the rest of the year and be let go after the season.   Only 4 more games to go; why fire him now?  GW on the other hand made such a horrible call at time and in game they really should have won, made sense to send him packing now.    As some have said, the team is PR conscious and no way they want to deal with the fan revolt that would take place if they tried to bring Gase back next season.  Patience my friends.... Gase will gone soon enough.  

[The Crusher]

1 hour ago, JiF said:

Gase shutout vs. the Dolphins.  All 3 WR's healthy, OL healthy, Gore healthy, Darnold healthy.

but they fire Williams because of 1 play? 

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Gase is coming back, confirmed.

**** you Jets

Yep, I also wonder if we draft Trevor can he just opt out because of Covid? 

[JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF]

3 minutes ago, SAR I said:

Forget the names of the people we have in these roles for a moment, the key to being a stable, respected, competitive franchise is finding a HC and GM on the same page and patiently giving them the time to rebuild it in their image.

To become the likes of the Steelers or Ravens, we have to stay the course, we have to avoid the revolving door.  I would be very pleased if we could at least achieve that.  Gase and Douglas may not be the right guys in the end, but the strategy being deployed by the Johnson's is very sound.  That's what we need to remember.  And you had to expect that this would get ugly along the way.  A decade of awful drafting and broken culture can't be fixed smoothly, quickly, or cleanly.

SAR I

This guy, Gase has lost way too many games with double digit disparities.  I might, actually I would, cut a guy slack whose team is competitive Every week and at least in every game but that is definitely not the case with Gase.  You actually can make a case that he quits lots of the time.

His main job was supposed to be grooming Darnold.  Darnold’s play has regressed so horrifically I’d say he is not a starting NFL QB right now, and I thought the world of his potential...not anymore.

Gase has to go.

[Jet2020]

1 hour ago, SAR I said:

Gase not letting the team fall into internal chaos over this after behaving so well all year.

And Gregg cost us 3 games in the last 30 seconds this season.

SAR I

Do you watch football?

[Jet2020]

1 hour ago, BleedinGreenNC said:

Its the Jets, up is down and down is up with this franchise.

Two words. 2020. 

[Scott Dierking]

Gase and Gase alone cannot fire his assistant. That has be approved by management, because there is a contract with Williams, and the remainder of that contract has to be honored (unless Williams did something that is considered breaking his contract).

Again, Gase does not have this decision making.

[JetPotato]

10 minutes ago, joewilly12 said:

Assistant head coach Frank Bush is expected to be named the Jets’ interim defensive coordinator.

Oh good.

So when Seattle puts up 40 next weekend, we can say they "Beat Around the Bush Defense"

[Doggin94it]

1 hour ago, southtown24th said:

How do you fire Williams and not Gase? HOW?W?W?W?W??W?!!?!?!?!?!??!

Maye's comments. And Jackson's

[SAR I]

17 minutes ago, BleedinGreenNC said:

What he is doing here? Are we watching the same team this season? What type of hope are we supposed to have when the coaches cant get out of their own way?

Take a franchise most believe to be dysfunctional for the past 50 years.

Take a team who entrusted John Idzik and Mike Maccagnan to draft players.

Take a team believed to have the worst roster in the NFL and expected to win no more than 5 games.

Take away all the playmakers due to release, trade, or opt-outs (Mosley, Adams, Bell, Anderson).

Take away all the replacements due to injury (Perriman, Mims, Perine, Zuniga).

Take away the franchise quarterback as a bust (Darnold) and see him get injured as well.

That leaves a team capable of going 0-16 no matter who its head coach is.  Don't judge the coaching staff on W's and L's.  Judge them on the effort of the players and if the youngsters are developing.  Gase gets high marks on both counts.

SAR I

 

[kmnj]

gase will be back next season which is why he was not fired this season

joe d cant blame gase for the teams record when he destroyed the roster that won 6 games last year-they are co captains of the titanic known as the jets

 

[The Crusher]

1 hour ago, joewilly12 said:

Boycott the NY Jets if this happens. 

Thata show’em Joe! 

[kmnj]

Just now, SAR I said:

Take a franchise most believe to be dysfunctional for the past 50 years.

Take a team who entrusted John Idzik and Mike Maccagnan to draft players.

Take a team believed to have the worst roster in the NFL and expected to win no more than 5 games.

Take away all the playmakers due to release, trade, or opt-outs (Mosley, Adams, Bell, Anderson).

Take away all the replacements due to injury (Perriman, Mims, Perine, Zuniga).

Take away the franchise quarterback as a bust (Darnold) and see him get injured as well.

That leaves a team capable of going 0-16 no matter who its head coach is.  Don't judge the coaching staff on W's and L's.  Judge them on the effort of the players and if the youngsters are developing.  Gase gets high marks on both counts.

SAR I

 

players play hard because they get paid to play and want to have a job next year-that has nothing to do with the coach

[JoJoTownsell1]

1 hour ago, southtown24th said:

How do you fire Williams and not Gase? HOW?W?W?W?W??W?!!?!?!?!?!??!

Who cares?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

[Beerfish]

The 'it makes sense to fire willaims now but not gase crowd' have me utterly baffled.

Williams has been been nothing but heroic coaching up a defense to the level it has been at the last two years with no CBs, ILB 'star' who taps out, his safety being dealt.  Quinnen williams suddenly looking like a player.

So fire Willimas over one play call meanwhile we see the jets running game look good behind two young backs and the ONLY reason they are out there is because gore got hurt.

The play call wasn't even that bad, no worse than the legion of gift hail marys where teams rushed 3 and let QBs run around back there and watch the one Wr catch the ball in amongst 5 secondary players.

Too bad we will never know who truly is behind this firing because the NY Jets are a coward organization. 

 

[JetPotato]

11 minutes ago, neckdemon said:

there is absolutely no way a competent front office goes into this offseason with adam gase as the head coach

No one is questioning what a competent front office would do in this situation.

The question is what are the Jets going to do.

[mrcoops]

Frank Bush, Assistant HC and ILB coach, will take over the D, per PFT.

[peebag]

1 minute ago, JetPotato said:

No one is questioning what a competent front office would do in this situation.

The question is what are the Jets going to do.

I think you answered the question.

It doesn't matter whom the HC is for the NY Jets.  

[NYJ37/12]

1 hour ago, BleedinGreenNC said:

Then why wouldnt we just clean house now? It doesnt make sense.

Gase fired Williams, he controls his staff.

[Jetsfan80]

34 minutes ago, whodeawhodat said:

You're damn right I called the code red!

[insert gif of jack nickleson from a few good men]

 

Son, we play on a field that has end zones, and those end zones have to be guarded by men wearing pads. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Rich Cimini? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Lamar Jackson, and you curse the Johnson's. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know -- that Jackson getting burned by Ruggs, while tragic, probably saved the franchise; and my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, just landed this team a generational prospect.

You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on those sidelines -- you need me on those sidelines.

We use words like "bounties," "kill the head," "concussions".  We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punch line.

I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the privilege of attending a press conference and then questions the playcalling of which I provide.

I would rather that you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a helmet and stand an A gap. Either way, I don't give a DAMN what you think you're entitled to!

 

@Spoot-Face

[munchmemory]

1 minute ago, Beerfish said:

The 'it makes sense to fire willaims now but not gase crowd' have me utterly baffled.

Williams has been been nothing but heroic coaching up a defense to the level it has been at the last two years with no CBs, ILB 'star' who taps out, his safety being dealt.  Quinnen williams suddenly looking like a player.

So fire Willimas over one play call meanwhile we see the jets running game look good behind to young backs and the ONLY reason they are out there is because gore got hurt.

The play call wasn't even that bad, no worse than the legion of gift hail marys where teams rushed 3 and let QBs run around back there and watch the one Wr catch the ball in amongst 5 secondary players.

Too bad we will never know who truly is behind this firing because the NY Jets are a coward organization. 

 

Exactly why I said Gase is behind the move and JD is a timid lamb or at least an ineffectual GM in name only.  If JD is truly calling the shots, come out and say "I fired Williams because".  So far, though, only crickets.

[kmnj]

gase offense has been the worst in football-most of the wins last year were due to the defense-firing williams is comical-how can gase hold Williams "accountable" when the offense has been terrible since he got here lol

the sad lol is gase is back next year for sure

[56mehl56]

28 minutes ago, joewilly12 said:

Have you watched the offense at all this year? 

What offense ?

[JetPotato]

2 minutes ago, mrcoops said:

Frank Bush, Assistant HC and ILB coach, will take over the D, per PFT.

Another bad sign.

Details are leaking out to sources like PFT.

A good owner/organization shows its face to the public to announce this and take questions from the media. Not seeing anything scheduled in that regard. Unsurprising to say the least.

[neckdemon]

6 minutes ago, SAR I said:

Take a franchise most believe to be dysfunctional for the past 50 years.

Take a team who entrusted John Idzik and Mike Maccagnan to draft players.

Take a team believed to have the worst roster in the NFL and expected to win no more than 5 games.

Take away all the playmakers due to release, trade, or opt-outs (Mosley, Adams, Bell, Anderson).

Take away all the replacements due to injury (Perriman, Mims, Perine, Zuniga).

Take away the franchise quarterback as a bust (Darnold) and see him get injured as well.

That leaves a team capable of going 0-16 no matter who its head coach is.  Don't judge the coaching staff on W's and L's.  Judge them on the effort of the players and if the youngsters are developing.  Gase gets high marks on both counts.

SAR I

 

sorry after watching the young rbs run all over the raiders gase should be fired for playing gore all year alone

[section314]

12 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said:

Gase and Gase alone cannot fire his assistant. That has be approved by management, because there is a contract with Williams, and the remainder of that contract has to be honored (unless Williams did something that is considered breaking his contract).

Again, Gase does not have this decision making.

Bet Judge didn’t have that nonsense to deal with when he fired the Oline coach. 

[The Crusher]

1 hour ago, Pac said:

If CJ didn't ask Douglas why the hell we kept trotting Gore out there when the 2 young guys ran for 200 yards then he is the idiot many say he is.

Gase's stubborn reliance on Gore this season is significantly worse than Williams' asinine play call.

So blatant too. Gore go’s down and the young guys instantly look better and all of a sudden the o line looks very good. It’s clown shoes. 

[CanadienJetsFan]

19 minutes ago, SAR I said:

The team was built for Bell

 The same Bell that Gase never wanted nothing to do with?

[JetsFanatic]

Williams had to go after yesterday , he had no credibility with the players after that bonehead call.

[56mehl56]

22 minutes ago, bitonti said:

the Jets don't pay their people over the table 

you believe they pay GW under the table to tank? 

really? what else you got for us from the Weekly World News 

Proof please? Who have the Jets refused to pay . Just because you don't agree with their hires doesn't mean they don't pay . Maybe you have the Johnson's confused with the Wilpons

[jgb]

53 minutes ago, SAR I said:

WAKE UP:

The days of the Johnson's giving a rats ass what a bunch of selfish, impatient, entitled Jets fans fired up by the clickbait media think is over.

Listening to you people is what got us into this mess to begin with.  Your opinions no longer matter.  Enjoy.

SAR I

Well our opinions have the unfortunate characteristic of being accurate, unlike yours

[CanadienJetsFan]

1 hour ago, JetPotato said:

How is this a PR move, unless your desire is to tell the public that your ownership is too stupid to tie its own shoes?

You read the headlines? The frontline news puts the franchise in a negative light. 

Williams was the sacrificial lamb. That's all.

[TuscanyTile2]

1 hour ago, nycdan said:

We may need an organized fan movement to make sure the Johnsons fully realize how much fans care that Gase is not the coach in 2021.  I'm not that guy but someone out there is the hero we need and deserve.  The evidence of how awful a HC Gase is cannot be swept under any rug.  it appears that enough heat from the media and fans can sway their actions so let's get to it.

Some fans tried last year with the plane (and this year with a mini-protest but it was like 5 kids)

[JTJet]

26 minutes ago, Jet2020 said:

Two words. 2020. 

...that's one number.