I am feeling melancholy regarding the Jets draft and I think I know why

[Alka]

Definition of melancholy to help my fellow Jets fans:  A feeling of pensive sadness, typically with no obvious cause.

Did I hate what the Jets did in this draft?  No, we got a new QB of our choice not named Lawrence, we got the much needed quality guard to line up next to Becton, we got a solid wide receiver that we really did need, and we got a great value at #107 with Michael Carter.

So, what's the problem?  Why am I not super psyched right now?

Because I think we could have done better.  I think that Joe Douglas was smart, but conservative.  Perhaps that is what the Jets need right now.

We could have gone in 3 different directions, all of which I would now be super pumped.  Let me list them:

1. Kept Darnold, and drafted a future hall of fame player in Kyle Pitts, got a really good tackle at #23, got Elijah Moore at #34, then picked up a solid guard in the 3rd round.  Wow, you vastly upgrade the O line with no holes, get not one but (2) amazing pass catchers which would put the Jets in a great place on offense, and still get Michael Carter in the 4th round.  This would have made me psyched and not melancholy.

2. Kept Darnold, trade the 2nd pick of the draft for 2 - 1st round draft picks for the next 2 years, plus get a 3rd round pick for this year, and probably a pick around 10 which could have netted Davonte Smith.  Happy, happy, happy.

3. Traded Darnold as they did, pick up Zach at QB, but stay put at #23, draft your tackle (Darrishaw), take Moore at #34, then pick up a quality guard in the 3rd round, get a quality linebacker in the 3rd round, etc...

Again, I'm not unhappy, just dreaming about what could have been.....

[Spoot-Face]

[Sarge4Tide]

[Skeptable]

6 minutes ago, Alka said:

Definition of melancholy to help my fellow Jets fans:  A feeling of pensive sadness, typically with no obvious cause.

Did I hate what the Jets did in this draft?  No, we got a new QB of our choice not named Lawrence, we got the much needed quality guard to line up next to Becton, we got a solid wide receiver that we really did need, and we got a great value at #107 with Michael Carter.

So, what's the problem?  Why am I not super psyched right now?

Because I think we could have done better.  I think that Joe Douglas was smart, but conservative.  Perhaps that is what the Jets need right now.

We could have gone in 3 different directions, all of which I would now be super pumped.  Let me list them:

1. Kept Darnold, and drafted a future hall of fame player in Kyle Pitts, got a really good tackle at #23, got Elijah Moore at #34, then picked up a solid guard in the 3rd round.  Wow, you vastly upgrade the O line with no holes, get not one but (2) amazing pass catchers which would put the Jets in a great place on offense, and still get Michael Carter in the 4th round.  This would have made me psyched and not melancholy.

2. Kept Darnold, trade the 2nd pick of the draft for 2 - 1st round draft picks for the next 2 years, plus get a 3rd round pick for this year, and probably a pick around 10 which could have netted Davonte Smith.  Happy, happy, happy.

3. Traded Darnold as they did, pick up Zach at QB, but stay put at #23, draft your tackle (Darrishaw), take Moore at #34, then pick up a quality guard in the 3rd round, get a quality linebacker in the 3rd round, etc...

Again, I'm not unhappy, just dreaming about what could have been.....

JD Blew it out of the park... Jets fans just love misery 

[Beerfish]

Before the whole process I also wanted to keep Darnold one more year and use that juicy 2nd overall for other things.  Once it was clear we were moving on I put that away.

Also come next year when we see the 2nd and 4th rounders from Carolina it will sooth feelings.

As fans no matter how well our teams GM does we will always think he could do better.

 

[Greensleeves]

Sorry, completely disagree. Even more sorry you feel melancholy when the Jets do something really well. Obviously the Jets were not happy with the depth of this draft and evaluating players in the later rounds due to no combine and many teams and players opting out. For once the Jets went after the better players instead of more players. JD hit a home run with this draft and it will turn the franchise around. Maybe it's post draft blues - waiting for something for a zillion months and now it's over.

[thebuzzardman]

I suggest drugs. Legal or street. Or both.

[TokyoJetsFan]

 

[derp]

Scenario two is kind of a huge hypothetical, no? Most realistic you can say is accepting the SF trade which is future capital heavy. Realistically you’d probably be looking at Slater at 12 and quite possibly Moore at 23 if not 34. It’s definitely not a bad scenario with all the future 1’s. The 12 and then back up to 6 didn’t work so well for Miami. So another guy at 23/34, slight upgrade at tackle, and the future SF’s first rounders (which maybe project to be late) minus the Carolina 2 next year. Which does get kind of interesting because how far apart will the SF #1 and the Carolina #2 end up being!

Seems you’re kind of upset about not grabbing a tackle which is an interesting one. I feel like that boiled down to expectations a little. Fant got guaranteed so it would’ve been a big surprise to see him replaced this year. I’m not sure tackle was really in play. If he struggles next year I think it’ll be high on the needs list and very addressable with two #1’s and two #2’s.

[Savage69]

9 minutes ago, Alka said:

Definition of melancholy to help my fellow Jets fans:  A feeling of pensive sadness, typically with no obvious cause.

Did I hate what the Jets did in this draft?  No, we got a new QB of our choice not named Lawrence, we got the much needed quality guard to line up next to Becton, we got a solid wide receiver that we really did need, and we got a great value at #107 with Michael Carter.

So, what's the problem?  Why am I not super psyched right now?

Because I think we could have done better.  I think that Joe Douglas was smart, but conservative.  Perhaps that is what the Jets need right now.

We could have gone in 3 different directions, all of which I would now be super pumped.  Let me list them:

1. Kept Darnold, and drafted a future hall of fame player in Kyle Pitts, got a really good tackle at #23, got Elijah Moore at #34, then picked up a solid guard in the 3rd round.  Wow, you vastly upgrade the O line with no holes, get not one but (2) amazing pass catchers which would put the Jets in a great place on offense, and still get Michael Carter in the 4th round.  This would have made me psyched and not melancholy.

2. Kept Darnold, trade the 2nd pick of the draft for 2 - 1st round draft picks for the next 2 years, plus get a 3rd round pick for this year, and probably a pick around 10 which could have netted Davonte Smith.  Happy, happy, happy.

3. Traded Darnold as they did, pick up Zach at QB, but stay put at #23, draft your tackle (Darrishaw), take Moore at #34, then pick up a quality guard in the 3rd round, get a quality linebacker in the 3rd round, etc...

Again, I'm not unhappy, just dreaming about what could have been.....

A bunch of you guys should get together and send your resumes to Woody and maybe he'll fire JD and hire one of you..

[Irish Jet]

Purge these Darnold fans. This sh*t reads like a parody.

[RedBeardedSavage]

We actually seem to be implementing a sane quarterback development strategy: investing in offense early, prioritizing protection and speed. 

The quarterback pick is, and will remain, polarizing. That's just picking quarterbacks in the NFL draft. 

And I even like the late round strategy, admittedly coming from someone that doesn't know a lot of those players, but:

• really good athletes at CB and DT
• Box safeties that we'll turn into Will LB'ers 
• saving defense for late on a team desperate for immediate impact offensive players

Overall, I think it's the best draft we've had in years. 

[Patriot Killa]

[Alka]

5 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

Before the whole process I also wanted to keep Darnold one more year and use that juicy 2nd overall for other things.  Once it was clear we were moving on I put that away.

Also come next year when we see the 2nd and 4th rounders from Carolina it will sooth feelings.

As fans no matter how well our teams GM does we will always think he could do better.

 

I suppose you are right.  As much as I wanted to keep Darnold another year like yourself, I can't help but think about all the missed throws that Darnold made on long throws, and the wide open receivers that he didn't see, and the turnovers when he didn't even have pressure on him.  

Then, the "I got to do better" speech that he gave on a weekly basis, but never played better to back up his words.

Darnold had a lot of help being sh*tty, but unfortunately he bears some responsibility, and ultimately I get why JD and company decided to move on.

[Morrissey]

Stopped reading at "1. Kept Darnold.."

[Bronx]

[yvj]

I sense for some people Darnold was the first time they were given hope for this team. It's okay lads, time heals all wounds. 

[oatmeal]

Only a freaking Jet fan would cry about keeping the NFL’s worst starting QB the past 3 seasons because “we could’ve selected another O-Line prospect in the 1st round” 

 

LMFAOOOO 

 

You can’t make this sh*t up

[Alka]

7 minutes ago, derp said:

Scenario two is kind of a huge hypothetical, no? Most realistic you can say is accepting the SF trade which is future capital heavy. Realistically you’d probably be looking at Slater at 12 and quite possibly Moore at 23 if not 34. It’s definitely not a bad scenario with all the future 1’s. The 12 and then back up to 6 didn’t work so well for Miami. So another guy at 23/34, slight upgrade at tackle, and the future SF’s first rounders (which maybe project to be late) minus the Carolina 2 next year. Which does get kind of interesting because how far apart will the SF #1 and the Carolina #2 end up being!

Seems you’re kind of upset about not grabbing a tackle which is an interesting one. I feel like that boiled down to expectations a little. Fant got guaranteed so it would’ve been a big surprise to see him replaced this year. I’m not sure tackle was really in play. If he struggles next year I think it’ll be high on the needs list and very addressable with two #1’s and two #2’s.

It's not that I wanted to move on from Fant this year, but there are many quality tackles that could easily play guard this upcoming season, and then move to right tackle next year.  Even the guard we picked in the 1st round was a tackle that was converted to guard.  That was my thinking, and I felt that the value at #23, while Tucker would have been gone by then, we could have gotten a guy like Darrishaw or Jenkins.  

[nycdan]

Did someone say melon collie?

[Larz]

You didn’t get what you wanted. Oh well 

JD got what he wanted

nothing personal but I’m ok with it lol

[Cp561]

Wow man, I've never heard of this word melancholy before. Thank you for defining it for a dumb jet fan such as myself. One day I hope my vocabulary can become as good as yours

[Jimmy 2 Times]

27 minutes ago, Alka said:

Definition of melancholy to help my fellow Jets fans:  A feeling of pensive sadness, typically with no obvious cause.

Did I hate what the Jets did in this draft?  No, we got a new QB of our choice not named Lawrence, we got the much needed quality guard to line up next to Becton, we got a solid wide receiver that we really did need, and we got a great value at #107 with Michael Carter.

So, what's the problem?  Why am I not super psyched right now?

Because I think we could have done better.  I think that Joe Douglas was smart, but conservative.  Perhaps that is what the Jets need right now.

We could have gone in 3 different directions, all of which I would now be super pumped.  Let me list them:

1. Kept Darnold, and drafted a future hall of fame player in Kyle Pitts, got a really good tackle at #23, got Elijah Moore at #34, then picked up a solid guard in the 3rd round.  Wow, you vastly upgrade the O line with no holes, get not one but (2) amazing pass catchers which would put the Jets in a great place on offense, and still get Michael Carter in the 4th round.  This would have made me psyched and not melancholy.

2. Kept Darnold, trade the 2nd pick of the draft for 2 - 1st round draft picks for the next 2 years, plus get a 3rd round pick for this year, and probably a pick around 10 which could have netted Davonte Smith.  Happy, happy, happy.

3. Traded Darnold as they did, pick up Zach at QB, but stay put at #23, draft your tackle (Darrishaw), take Moore at #34, then pick up a quality guard in the 3rd round, get a quality linebacker in the 3rd round, etc...

Again, I'm not unhappy, just dreaming about what could have been.....

 

Try to find something that brings joy to your life.

[redlichtie]

As good as he is, I’m yet to be convinced that Kyle Pitts is having a hall of fame career with Sam throwing to him...and hard to agree that we had a conservative draft when we gambled 2 very valuable 3rd round picks to move up to 14 for an OG!?...I’d say that ballsy

[Fantasy Island]

23 minutes ago, TokyoJetsFan said:

 

He must be sitting in the back seat

[joewilly12]

Im feeling cauliflower-broccoli about the draft. 

[BurnleyJet]

I stopped at keep Darnold.

[Alka]

5 minutes ago, Cp561 said:

Wow man, I've never heard of this word melancholy before. Thank you for defining it for a dumb jet fan such as myself. One day I hope my vocabulary can become as good as yours

LOL.  I realize that most fans know what the meaning of the word is, but I also realize that not everyone as smart as yourself knows the word.  I looked up the word myself to make sure I got it right, so perhaps I am one of the dumb fans your are referring to.

There was no offense intended, and If I did offend anyone, I truly apologize.

[RoadFan]

Sam Darnold's ceiling is Jake Plummer.  Anybody want to pay $30M per year for that?

With the exception of a few games, Darnold  stunk for 3 years.

He was inaccurate, showed zero balls, lacks competitiveness, and essentially accepted losing. 

A fresh start at QB on a rookie deal was not just an option, it was the only choice.

[Jet_Engine1]

Darnold was done here. Pining for him and a couple of picks after a consensus excellent draft and nearly full reset is absurd. 

 

Sorry. 

 

I think your melancholic feelings are from the draft being over, and maybe a couple of players you wanted didn't get drafted, nothing more.

[doitny]

39 minutes ago, Alka said:

Definition of melancholy to help my fellow Jets fans:  A feeling of pensive sadness, typically with no obvious cause.

Did I hate what the Jets did in this draft?  No, we got a new QB of our choice not named Lawrence, we got the much needed quality guard to line up next to Becton, we got a solid wide receiver that we really did need, and we got a great value at #107 with Michael Carter.

So, what's the problem?  Why am I not super psyched right now?

Because I think we could have done better.  I think that Joe Douglas was smart, but conservative.  Perhaps that is what the Jets need right now.

We could have gone in 3 different directions, all of which I would now be super pumped.  Let me list them:

1. Kept Darnold, and drafted a future hall of fame player in Kyle Pitts, got a really good tackle at #23, got Elijah Moore at #34, then picked up a solid guard in the 3rd round.  Wow, you vastly upgrade the O line with no holes, get not one but (2) amazing pass catchers which would put the Jets in a great place on offense, and still get Michael Carter in the 4th round.  This would have made me psyched and not melancholy.

2. Kept Darnold, trade the 2nd pick of the draft for 2 - 1st round draft picks for the next 2 years, plus get a 3rd round pick for this year, and probably a pick around 10 which could have netted Davonte Smith.  Happy, happy, happy.

3. Traded Darnold as they did, pick up Zach at QB, but stay put at #23, draft your tackle (Darrishaw), take Moore at #34, then pick up a quality guard in the 3rd round, get a quality linebacker in the 3rd round, etc...

Again, I'm not unhappy, just dreaming about what could have been.....

i guess by October nobody will be posting anymore....Keep Darnold posts. i figure by 6-8 games Carolina fans will be pulling out their hair and cursing the day they traded for him.

[RoadFan]

Double post

[Jackie Treehorn]

This Darrisaw-nonsense needs to stop.  The Vikings completely lucked out, courtesy of the mind numbingly stupid Raiders, and with that said JD must have had AVT very high on his board. Great move that has received an A-grade almost everywhere. 

[joewilly12]

2 minutes ago, RoadFan said:

Sam Darnold's ceiling is a plumber.  Anybody want to pay $30M per year for that?

Fixed that. 

*nothing against plumbers

[Fantasy Island]

6 minutes ago, Alka said:

LOL.  I realize that most fans know what the meaning of the word is, but I also realize that not everyone as smart as yourself knows the word.  I looked up the word myself to make sure I got it right, so perhaps I am one of the dumb fans your are referring to.

There was no offense intended, and If I did offend anyone, I truly apologize.

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